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Old November 22nd, 2007, 02:59 PM posted to rec.travel.africa
Pat Anderson
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Subi - nukta77 writes
Dear Pat,
Kenyans speak and know more of English than KiSwahili, that's why they
always belittle Tanzanians because we largely speak KiSwahili while a
few understand English and very few speak English. So, I am not
astonished when they have/had a place called Kaburus, the 's' in the
end makes me think that, the word most likely originates from one of
the local languages rather than from KiSwahili so it could have a
different meaning from 'kaburu'.

A lot of Kenyans along the coast of the Indian oceans such as in the
towns of Mombasa and Lamu speak very good KiSwahili though, just like
the people of Zanzibar (Tanzania islands).

I do not know any good book one can use to study KiSwahili but, I
trust that some of the printed KiSwahili teaching books out there
could be helpful to someone who wants to know the a, be, che and moja
(1), mbili (2), tatu (3) of KiSwahili.

Good luck to you all and be blessed!
Subi.



Dear Subi,
Asante sana for your reply. I am aware that the pure Swahili comes from
Tanzania and the Kenya coast. The Kenya Kaburus website was mostly,
though not exclusively, for people with a common interest, such as
schools or regiments people may have been together in. The person who
ran the site explained the word was not meant to be derogatory but
rather friendly. As a Swahili speaker I`m sure you know the meaning of
the word, I`m a member of an African egroup so I will ask Kenyan members
how they interperate
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Old November 22nd, 2007, 03:51 PM posted to rec.travel.africa
Pat Anderson
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Default slightly off topic..."Mzungu"...

In message
,
Subi - nukta77 writes
Dear Pat,
Kenyans speak and know more of English than KiSwahili, that's why they
always belittle Tanzanians because we largely speak KiSwahili while a
few understand English and very few speak English. So, I am not
astonished when they have/had a place called Kaburus, the 's' in the
end makes me think that, the word most likely originates from one of
the local languages rather than from KiSwahili so it could have a
different meaning from 'kaburu'.

A lot of Kenyans along the coast of the Indian oceans such as in the
towns of Mombasa and Lamu speak very good KiSwahili though, just like
the people of Zanzibar (Tanzania islands).

I do not know any good book one can use to study KiSwahili but, I
trust that some of the printed KiSwahili teaching books out there
could be helpful to someone who wants to know the a, be, che and moja
(1), mbili (2), tatu (3) of KiSwahili.

Good luck to you all and be blessed!
Subi.



Subi,
I`m aware that the Kiswahili in Tanzania and the Kenya coast is the
purest. As for the word " Kaburu" I will ask members of my African
egroup, the Kenyan ones, how they feel about the word.
Pat.
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Pat Anderson
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Old November 23rd, 2007, 02:47 PM posted to rec.travel.africa
Pat Anderson
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Default slightly off topic..."Mzungu"...

In message , Pat Anderson
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In message
,
Subi - nukta77 writes
Dear Pat,
Kenyans speak and know more of English than KiSwahili, that's why they
always belittle Tanzanians because we largely speak KiSwahili while a
few understand English and very few speak English. So, I am not
astonished when they have/had a place called Kaburus, the 's' in the
end makes me think that, the word most likely originates from one of
the local languages rather than from KiSwahili so it could have a
different meaning from 'kaburu'.

A lot of Kenyans along the coast of the Indian oceans such as in the
towns of Mombasa and Lamu speak very good KiSwahili though, just like
the people of Zanzibar (Tanzania islands).

I do not know any good book one can use to study KiSwahili but, I
trust that some of the printed KiSwahili teaching books out there
could be helpful to someone who wants to know the a, be, che and moja
(1), mbili (2), tatu (3) of KiSwahili.

Good luck to you all and be blessed!
Subi.



Subi,
I`m aware that the Kiswahili in Tanzania and the Kenya coast is the
purest. As for the word " Kaburu" I will ask members of my African
egroup, the Kenyan ones, how they feel about the word.
Pat.

Hi Subi,
I had a response from two Kenyans on the egroup, one is from the coast,
it seems a Kaburu is a colonial settler who sometimes has a bad
attitude to Africans. One of my Kenyan friends thinks the word may have
been derived from the South African word, Boer, which became Boor. So
the Kenya Kaburus must have been a group of settlers who formed a group
and kept in touch rather like Friends Reunited which we have in Britain.
Best wishes,
Pat.
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Pat Anderson
 




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