Being Safe in Europe 3

Following up to Jens Arne Maennig

This means that in .5% of traffic accidents, trams are involved. Just to
compa In over 90%, cars are involved.

You should better post some warnings about the risks of individual
transport.

Jens, what % of vehicles are trams, greater or lesser than 5%?
I would really like to see pedestrian fatalities by type of
vehicle and what proportion of vehicles are trams.
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Following up to Owain

| I think the Being Safe in Europe 2 post was successful ...
| I am finished posting safety issues to this group.

But please keep the sex tips coming. I'm forwarding them to The Sun's agony
aunt.

How about a "Robert's safe sex in Europe" thread?
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Reid wrote:
Following up to Jens Arne Maennig
This means that in .5% of traffic accidents, trams are involved. Just to
compa In over 90%, cars are involved.

You should better post some warnings about the risks of individual
transport.

Jens, what % of vehicles are trams, greater or lesser than 5%?
I would really like to see pedestrian fatalities by type of
vehicle and what proportion of vehicles are trams.

And to swing it back the other way, the average number of passengers being
served by the tram at the time, vs the number in the car that mowed the
pedestrian down after he got back up from the tram incident.

miguel
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Following up to Miguel Cruz

Jens, what % of vehicles are trams, greater or lesser than 5%?
I would really like to see pedestrian fatalities by type of
vehicle and what proportion of vehicles are trams.

And to swing it back the other way, the average number of passengers being
served by the tram at the time, vs the number in the car that mowed the
pedestrian down after he got back up from the tram incident.

I think if a pedestrian gets run down twice you have to start to
think they are doing it on purpose
and lets not forget the effect of the mass of the tram, oh,
sorry, wrong thread.
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Jens Arne Maennig wrote in message .. .
Robert wrote:

Why don't you search the Amsterdam news and find the story of the
tourist who was struck by a tram and had to be identified by dental
records.

Some numbers from Austria, a country with a quite active tram culture
(Ssource: "Österreichs Verkehrswirtschaft in Zahlen, Ausgabe 2002,
Wirtschaftskammer Österreich):

| Road Accidents 1995-2001
|
| 01:00 2001 2000 ... 1995
| -----------------------------------------------------
| Cars +4,3% 54,985 52,701 49,606
| Buses +11,3% 790 710 738
| Trucks -2,1% 4,723 4,826 4,633
| Trams -8,9% 308 338 315
| Railway -3,4% 86 89 95

This means that in .5% of traffic accidents, trams are involved. Just to
compa In over 90%, cars are involved.

You should better post some warnings about the risks of individual
transport.

Jens

I addressed car travel but trams are a big surprise to foreigners. And
my guess it's always worse to get hit by a tram than get into an car
accident. Many car accidents are injury free.

In article ,
(Robert) wrote:

I addressed car travel but trams are a big surprise to foreigners. And
my guess it's always worse to get hit by a tram than get into an car
accident.

Since some people are killed in car accidents and other people survive
tram accidents unscathed, this is only true for strange values of "always"
and "worse".

Incidentally, wasn't Gaudi (the Barcelona architect) killed by a tram?

In article ,
wrote:

In article ,
(Robert) wrote:

I addressed car travel but trams are a big surprise to foreigners. And
my guess it's always worse to get hit by a tram than get into an car
accident.

Since some people are killed in car accidents and other people survive
tram accidents unscathed, this is only true for strange values of "always"
and "worse".

Incidentally, wasn't Gaudi (the Barcelona architect) killed by a tram?

I must say, that when I first moved to Milan there were a couple of
times that I had close calls with trams... not the noisy but adorable
classic ones... but the newer huge ones like line 2 and 3, they are
incredibly silent.... but listening to 'Rock the Casbah' on my walkman
probably contributed....

jay
Fri, Oct 31, 2003


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In article , Robert
writes

I addressed car travel but trams are a big surprise to foreigners.
For "foreigners" read "Americans."
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Marie Lewis

hI,

the worst thing about a tram accident in a'dam (usually tram/car or
car/tram) is that it ties up that tram track for hours while the regular
cops and the tram police and the wrecker all deal with a minor fender
bender with no injuries

Reid wrote:
Following up to Jens Arne Maennig


This means that in .5% of traffic accidents, trams are involved. Just to
compa In over 90%, cars are involved.

You should better post some warnings about the risks of individual
transport.


Jens, what % of vehicles are trams, greater or lesser than 5%?
I would really like to see pedestrian fatalities by type of
vehicle and what proportion of vehicles are trams.

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Robert wrote:


I am finished posting safety issues to this group.

From your mouth to God's ear! (Now, if you'd said you were finished
posting to this group ENTIRELY, it might be cause for general
rejoicing.)