Passengers Aboard Flight Delayed 18 Hours

Malcolm Weir wrote:
You're confused. They detained him in a detention facility.

Detention is against rules of international airside management. You have no
jurisdiction to detain someone airside. He must be allowed landside before
your police can arrest people and detain them.

And then repatriated him.

Nop. Sionce he was allowed into the USA (with immediate arrest), he was
DEPORTED. He may or may not have been charged with anything, but patriot act
allowed police to treat him as a convicted criminal during the time he was
held sicne patriot act allows police to bypass judicial system.


No, that's how some countries do it, but if the next flight is not
until 7 days, don't delude yourself into thinking that, say, the UK
would NOT detain someone in a secure facility.

They would find the next flight out back towards their origin and arrange for
the passenger transfer securely at that transfer point. This involve
cooperation with airport police/security at the transfer point, and in some
cases also involves hiring specialised people to escort the person all the way
to the tranbsfer point to ensure proper handover to the next flight. (the goal
is not to thros rejects to a 3rd countrty where they may claim asylum).

Consider the case of the guy in Paris who has lived airside for quite some time.

Don't be fatuous. Do you *really* want to allege that if the next
flight is not for a week, the UK would happily let the individual
wander around without restriction?

That is why airside is a secured location. And it woudln't last a week.

"nobody" wrote in message
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Malcolm Weir wrote:
You're confused. They detained him in a detention facility.

Detention is against rules of international airside management. You have
no
jurisdiction to detain someone airside. He must be allowed landside before
your police can arrest people and detain them.

And then repatriated him.

Nop. Sionce he was allowed into the USA (with immediate arrest), he was
DEPORTED. He may or may not have been charged with anything, but patriot
act
allowed police to treat him as a convicted criminal during the time he was
held sicne patriot act allows police to bypass judicial system.


No, that's how some countries do it, but if the next flight is not
until 7 days, don't delude yourself into thinking that, say, the UK
would NOT detain someone in a secure facility.

They would find the next flight out back towards their origin and arrange
for
the passenger transfer securely at that transfer point. This involve
cooperation with airport police/security at the transfer point, and in
some
cases also involves hiring specialised people to escort the person all the
way
to the tranbsfer point to ensure proper handover to the next flight. (the
goal
is not to thros rejects to a 3rd countrty where they may claim asylum).


In one recent case, it involved putting 2 people in a taxi with no escort,
sending them to a different airport, and surprise surprise they never showed
for the flight :-)

In message , at 15:45:16 on
Tue, 4 Jan 2005, Binyamin Dissen
remarked:

The vast majority of Americans would be glad if you and your ilk kept away.

Charming!

: Feel free to scare away the
:tourist dollars. Ironically, it was a country founded by immigrants
:fleeing from persecution, how much it has all changed!!

Yes, we were fleeing from your ilk - who were the persecutes.

And now, after the passage of time, the roles are somewhat reversed in
many people's eyes.
--
Roland Perry

In message , at 15:45:16 on
Tue, 4 Jan 2005, Binyamin Dissen
remarked:

The vast majority of Americans would be glad if you and your ilk kept away.

Charming!

: Feel free to scare away the
:tourist dollars. Ironically, it was a country founded by immigrants
:fleeing from persecution, how much it has all changed!!

Yes, we were fleeing from your ilk - who were the persecutes.

And now, after the passage of time, the roles are somewhat reversed in
many people's eyes.
--
Roland Perry

"Gregory Morrow" schreef in
bericht ink.net...
Not to worry - Sjoerd and his ilk prefer holidaying in such paragons of
human rights as Myanmar and Cuba...

The difference of course being that the people of Myanmar and Cuba can not
be blamed for the government they have, whereas the majority of voting
Americans have just voluntarily re-elected a war criminal.

Sjoerd

"Gregory Morrow" schreef in
bericht ink.net...
Not to worry - Sjoerd and his ilk prefer holidaying in such paragons of
human rights as Myanmar and Cuba...

The difference of course being that the people of Myanmar and Cuba can not
be blamed for the government they have, whereas the majority of voting
Americans have just voluntarily re-elected a war criminal.

Sjoerd

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:28:49 +0000 Roland Perry wrote:

:In message , at 15:45:16 on
:Tue, 4 Jan 2005, Binyamin Dissen
:remarked:

:The vast majority of Americans would be glad if you and your ilk kept away.

:Charming!

Thank you.

:: Feel free to scare away the
::tourist dollars. Ironically, it was a country founded by immigrants
::fleeing from persecution, how much it has all changed!!

:Yes, we were fleeing from your ilk - who were the persecutes.

:And now, after the passage of time, the roles are somewhat reversed in
:many people's eyes.

Fail to see how refusing to admit your racist ilk into the USA is a form of
persecution.

--
Binyamin Dissen
http://www.dissensoftware.com

Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me,
you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain.

I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems,
especially those from irresponsible companies.

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:28:49 +0000 Roland Perry wrote:

:In message , at 15:45:16 on
:Tue, 4 Jan 2005, Binyamin Dissen
:remarked:

:The vast majority of Americans would be glad if you and your ilk kept away.

:Charming!

Thank you.

:: Feel free to scare away the
::tourist dollars. Ironically, it was a country founded by immigrants
::fleeing from persecution, how much it has all changed!!

:Yes, we were fleeing from your ilk - who were the persecutes.

:And now, after the passage of time, the roles are somewhat reversed in
:many people's eyes.

Fail to see how refusing to admit your racist ilk into the USA is a form of
persecution.

--
Binyamin Dissen
http://www.dissensoftware.com

Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me,
you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain.

I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems,
especially those from irresponsible companies.

In message , at 20:41:04 on
Tue, 4 Jan 2005, Binyamin Dissen
remarked:
Fail to see how refusing to admit your racist ilk into the USA is a form of
persecution.

I'm not racist, unless "American Citizens" are suddenly a race, which
seems unlikely as they have had their own racist policies against blacks
that were US citizens.
--
Roland Perry

In message , at 20:41:04 on
Tue, 4 Jan 2005, Binyamin Dissen
remarked:
Fail to see how refusing to admit your racist ilk into the USA is a form of
persecution.

I'm not racist, unless "American Citizens" are suddenly a race, which
seems unlikely as they have had their own racist policies against blacks
that were US citizens.
--
Roland Perry