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"John Wheaton" wrote
"Dave Smith" wrote in message Ed Jay wrote: Please provide some verification that the US had no problem with Iraq using WMDs. Perhaps the photograph of Hussein shaking hands with Rumsfeld after the USA http://globalpolicy.igc.org/security...sseinindex.htm Please produce ONE quote of ANY US Official stating that the use of WMDs was ok with the US. Oh,come on, John. You're way more intelligent than that! |
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"Hatunen" wrote in message
... On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:16:58 -0700, "John Wheaton" wrote: "Ed Jay" wrote in message . .. John Wheaton scribed: "Ed Jay" wrote in message m... John Wheaton scribed: "Peter D" [email protected] wrote in message ... Do you know, Miki, that this is the sort of reasoning used to silence opposition to Hitler in the early 30s? I'm always cautious of anyone who would seek to silence others on the basis that their speech is "unpatriotic" or "abuses freedom of speech". Liberal Icon FDR also put newspapermen and other dissenters in detention. Are you going to compare him to Hitler as well? FDR has nothing to do with Bush. Very true as Bush has not locked up dissidents, or set up internment camps as FDR did. Nothing that FDR may have done excuses Bush. Stoopid argument, John. Hey, William the Conqueror invaded England. Bush didn't. I guess that makes Bush a good guy in your book, huh? That makes as much sense as your argument. :-) How dissent was handled was the subject and Bush was being compared to Hitler who imprisoned and executed dissenters. Not much of a comparison there so I provided an example of a liberal Democrat Icon that went much farther than Bush by directly silencing dissenters by imprisoning them. If we are to compare to Hitler But i didn't. Which part of what I said compared Bush to Hitler? None? Then go find another Straw Man to hump! |
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Ed, don't waste time and energy. he's got a burr up his butt based on what
he thinks I said. He's probably not even bothered to actually read what I said. |
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As YOU posted;
" http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...=&pagewanted=2 Former Secretary of State Shultz and Vice President Bush tried to stanch the flow of chemical precursors to Iraq and SPOKE OUT AGAINST Iraq's use of chemical arms" |
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"Peter D" [email protected] wrote in message
... "Icono Clast" wrote Read The Constitution! It's all protected speech. In fact, the more offensive it is, the more bigoted it is, the more hateful it is, the stronger the protection provided by the First Amendment! Not so. Speech is protected equally without regard to it's level of offensiveness. Maybe you meant to say the more offensive it is, the greater the need to protect it -- because it is only when dealing with that and those we dislike the most that we discover just how committed we the rights of all. Not so. Much offensive speech is outlawed, otherwise it would be legal to yell "fire" or "bomb" in a crowded theater and there would be no laws against libel and slander. KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website view over 3,600 live cameras or visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI, and NBA, the White House, Academy Awards, 150 language translators! Visit Hawaii, Israel and more at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/ |
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John Wheaton wrote: As YOU posted; " http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...=&pagewanted=2 Former Secretary of State Shultz and Vice President Bush tried to stanch the flow of chemical precursors to Iraq and SPOKE OUT AGAINST Iraq's use of chemical arms" That was the public position, not the covert agenda. |
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"Alohacyberian" wrote in message ... "Peter D" [email protected] wrote in message ... "Icono Clast" wrote Read The Constitution! It's all protected speech. In fact, the more offensive it is, the more bigoted it is, the more hateful it is, the stronger the protection provided by the First Amendment! Not so. Speech is protected equally without regard to it's level of offensiveness. Maybe you meant to say the more offensive it is, the greater the need to protect it -- because it is only when dealing with that and those we dislike the most that we discover just how committed we the rights of all. Not so. Much offensive speech is outlawed, otherwise it would be legal to yell "fire" or "bomb" in a crowded theater and there would be no laws against libel and slander. KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website view over 3,600 live cameras or visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI, and NBA, the White House, Academy Awards, 150 language translators! Visit Hawaii, Israel and more at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/ Keith back again after doing the Alvin Toda of crawling under his rock for...this time around...two days. And wonder of wonders - no Keith Martin of non sequiturs, red herrings, and ad hominems that characterized his last several postings here. He somehow, miracle though it be, some way, managed to stay somewhat on topic in expressing his own personal opinion. But - but - do note that he is still doing the KM2 of ignoring yet again my question to him: "Do you agree that a maker of a statement is accountable for that statement? A simple 'yes' or 'no' from you will suffice." and my request that he back his words Sunday, 10/21/07 5:28am that Hilo gets rain "... no more than a lot of places in the U.K. " And leave us not forget his very own, most personal six year old kid's taunt "Yes or no. KM." So does Kevin show us all yet once more the consummate ducker/evader that he is beyond any reasonable doubt whatever. And still - still - no sign of the KM3...whatever that means of evasion/ducking be. But, as I said folks....stay tuned because because you know without doubt Kevin will continue to duck my questions. After all, who knows? Kevin may yet have another creative means of ducking/evading, the very skilled and so much determined to duck and evade that he is...as he has so willingly and persistently demonstrates before us all here each and every time he ducks my questions in his posts. Duck-a-way, duck-a-way Keith! Quack, quack! |
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"Dave Smith" wrote in message ... John Wheaton wrote: As YOU posted; " http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...=&pagewanted=2 Former Secretary of State Shultz and Vice President Bush tried to stanch the flow of chemical precursors to Iraq and SPOKE OUT AGAINST Iraq's use of chemical arms" That was the public position, not the covert agenda. Another personal opinion. BTW The courts did find a Dutch businessman guilty of supplying Saddam with chemical weapons. |
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John Wheaton wrote:
That was the public position, not the covert agenda. Another personal opinion. BTW The courts did find a Dutch businessman guilty of supplying Saddam with chemical weapons. SO a little more digging and see what Iraq got from the US. |
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On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 22:25:57 -0500, "Peter D" [email protected] wrote:
"Hatunen" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:16:58 -0700, "John Wheaton" wrote: "Ed Jay" wrote in message ... John Wheaton scribed: "Ed Jay" wrote in message om... John Wheaton scribed: "Peter D" [email protected] wrote in message .. . Do you know, Miki, that this is the sort of reasoning used to silence opposition to Hitler in the early 30s? I'm always cautious of anyone who would seek to silence others on the basis that their speech is "unpatriotic" or "abuses freedom of speech". Liberal Icon FDR also put newspapermen and other dissenters in detention. Are you going to compare him to Hitler as well? FDR has nothing to do with Bush. Very true as Bush has not locked up dissidents, or set up internment camps as FDR did. Nothing that FDR may have done excuses Bush. Stoopid argument, John. Hey, William the Conqueror invaded England. Bush didn't. I guess that makes Bush a good guy in your book, huh? That makes as much sense as your argument. :-) How dissent was handled was the subject and Bush was being compared to Hitler who imprisoned and executed dissenters. Not much of a comparison there so I provided an example of a liberal Democrat Icon that went much farther than Bush by directly silencing dissenters by imprisoning them. If we are to compare to Hitler But i didn't. Which part of what I said compared Bush to Hitler? None? Then go find another Straw Man to hump! why do you presume it was you I was responding to? Do you see the long list of contributors? Note that I responded to Wheaton and Jay, but not you. If you look carefully at the thread you might notice that I'm pretty much defending what you said. -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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