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Report from the US, a nice but somewhat backward country.
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:00:11 GMT, "Sharx35"
wrote: Luckily - to no suprise - all others picked up on my humo[u]r, irony, sarcasm, self-infliction, etc.. So if you didn't/don't like it, tough! Bull ****ing ****. You bitched, whined and moaned throughout 90% of your snivelling post. FOAD, already. Which goes to show you're just the dumb humorless moron he said you were. |
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 05:51:28 GMT, "Sharx35"
wrote: [1] I don't think I *had* to register my Dutch SIM. They just *wanted* you to register and gave you a bonus (free credit) if/when you did. I *did* have to register my Australian Vodafone and Telstra SIMs, and I had to (sort of) register myself when buying them. ("What's your address in Australia?". Duh! I'm a bloody furrin tourist, ain't I? No, but you ARE a first-class ****ing asshole. ****ups like you, please stay OUT of the U.S. AND Canada. We do NOT want your ****ing arrogant asses over here. The Netherlands is just another 3rd rate nation, you know. But for a good storm, it would cease to exist. BRING IT ON!!!!! Let's see a North Sea tsunami!!! And a foul-mouthed, low class uneducated moron to boot. I left that part of the analysis out. |
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Report from the US, a nice but somewhat backward country.
"John Kulp" wrote in message ... On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 05:48:49 GMT, "Sharx35" wrote: If anyone has any doubts, we *loved* our trip and would do something similar again in a flash, so you Seppos aren't all that bad! Well, I have travelled in the U.S., too. After several dozen trips to the U.S., **MY** bad experiences are a fraction of yours. I suspect it might be due to your arrogant Eurocentric, obviously chip on the shoulder attitude to U.S. culture. I am not a U.S. resident nor a U.S. citizen, however I much prefer to travel in the U.S., compared to the continent of Europe where the common attitude is that "WE are the centre of the cultural universe and the rest of the world are wannabes or boors". :Hell will freeze over before I travel to the continent of decay, Europe. With your sense of humor, they will miss you like they do the bubonic plague. I have a GREAT sense of humour, however I do NOT suffer Eurocentric fools gladly. If they don't like it here in NORTH AMERICA, let them stay the **** AWAY. |
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Report from the US, a nice but somewhat backward country.
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:14:59 +0100, Frank Slootweg
wrote: [Re-added rec.travel.australia+nz because of the references to Oz (and I don't believe in splitting up running discussions, unless there is a very good reason). Of course anyone is free to think/act otherwise.] Lawrence Akutagawa wrote: [...] Just for your edification - in California the sales tax (about 8.25%, depending on where in the state) is already included in the quoted per gallon price of gasoline. A number of years ago it was excluded from the quoted price such that the tax was calculated subsequently as per all other taxable purchases. But no longer. "tax", you pushed yet another one of my buttons (Perhaps that Sharx35 dude was right after all!?). The tax thingie is rather confusing, needlessly complex, and, AFAICT, has no advantages for the customer. In most - but not all - cases, tax was excluded. As you say, the percentage depends on the location and probably also on the type of product/service. If you're buying one or a few products, it's hard to impossible to give the shop attendant the exact amount or to (try to) get as little change as possible back, until the cash register has calculated how much you own. That is a nuisance, only takes addtional time, and I see no advantage (*Is* there any advantage?). In comparison, in Europe/Oz the sales price always includes the tax (well, nearly always for Oz). In our country - The Netherlands - it's even illegal to quote exclusive prices to 'consumers'. At minimal both exclusive and inclusive have to be quoted, and even that is severely frowned upon. Which is exactly why we exclude it here, keeping our taxes much lower than yours by constantly pointing out how much of the total price it is. In states like Colorado, where I live, there are local taxes as well that differ from one locale to the other and are used to compete against one another for business. In New Jersey, everybody's favorite, there is no tax at all on clothes and food, while it is quite high next door in New York City, making for a booming multi-billion business in New Yorkers traipsing over to Jersey to buy stuff. Look at Macy's in New York for what you want, then go to Macy's NJ to buy it. And it is always a good idea when driving an unfamiliar car for the first time to check out all the controls - including the one releasing the gas tank lid - before driving off. It is rather dicey to have to find the windshield wiper control while going 70 mph in a sudden downpour at night. Yeah, I normally do that, at least when there's some light, which there (much) wasn't for our first rental. One time, after driving from SFO airport to somewhere in Silicon Valley, I found myself in front of the motel, unable to get the key out of the ignition. Had to push some unkown button, which European cars didn't/don't have. Quite annoying and embarrasing after a light flight from Europe. I didn't check the gas tank lid, but I filled up early and we had the nice lady in the mirror, hadn't we!? Hope you had a good time and saw some things different than from where you are. We had and did. If anything was even remotely 'familiar' it was Joshua Tree NP, Mojave NP and Death Valley NP, and it was only somewhat similar to the things we love in Australia, so we just had a cheaper - and sadly enough much shorter - trip, than our 'normal' trips to/in Australia. Our daughter asked "So the US is your new Australia?". Well it isn't, but it's beautiful as well and comparisons are equally sillay as unfair. I trust you were able to range as far north as Bodie and perhaps as far east as Zion. You next go, try working in Bryce, Capitol Reef, Arches, Canyonlands, Dead Horse Point, Goblin Valley, Mesa Verde, Monument Valley, etc. You won't regret doing so. (Without looking them up,) Most of the places you mention don't ring a bell. To be clear, we visited only California (and a tiny bit (Pahrump) of Nevada) and only a *part* of CA (see above). |
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"John Kulp" wrote in message ... On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:00:11 GMT, "Sharx35" wrote: Luckily - to no suprise - all others picked up on my humo[u]r, irony, sarcasm, self-infliction, etc.. So if you didn't/don't like it, tough! Bull ****ing ****. You bitched, whined and moaned throughout 90% of your snivelling post. FOAD, already. Which goes to show you're just the dumb humorless moron he said you were. You've just confirmed your identify as that of a NON-North American DNA defective idiot. |
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Report from the US, a nice but somewhat backward country.
"John Kulp" wrote in message ... On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:14:59 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: [Re-added rec.travel.australia+nz because of the references to Oz (and I don't believe in splitting up running discussions, unless there is a very good reason). Of course anyone is free to think/act otherwise.] Lawrence Akutagawa wrote: [...] Just for your edification - in California the sales tax (about 8.25%, depending on where in the state) is already included in the quoted per gallon price of gasoline. A number of years ago it was excluded from the quoted price such that the tax was calculated subsequently as per all other taxable purchases. But no longer. "tax", you pushed yet another one of my buttons (Perhaps that Sharx35 dude was right after all!?). The tax thingie is rather confusing, needlessly complex, and, AFAICT, has no advantages for the customer. In most - but not all - cases, tax was excluded. As you say, the percentage depends on the location and probably also on the type of product/service. If you're buying one or a few products, it's hard to impossible to give the shop attendant the exact amount or to (try to) get as little change as possible back, until the cash register has calculated how much you own. That is a nuisance, only takes addtional time, and I see no advantage (*Is* there any advantage?). In comparison, in Europe/Oz the sales price always includes the tax (well, nearly always for Oz). In our country - The Netherlands - it's even illegal to quote exclusive prices to 'consumers'. At minimal both exclusive and inclusive have to be quoted, and even that is severely frowned upon. Which is exactly why we exclude it here, keeping our taxes much lower than yours by constantly pointing out how much of the total price it is. In states like Colorado, where I live, there are local taxes as well that differ from one locale to the other and are used to compete against one another for business. In New Jersey, everybody's favorite, there is no tax at all on clothes and food, while it is quite high next door in New York City, making for a booming multi-billion business in New Yorkers traipsing over to Jersey to buy stuff. Look at Macy's in New York for what you want, then go to Macy's NJ to buy it. And it is always a good idea when driving an unfamiliar car for the first time to check out all the controls - including the one releasing the gas tank lid - before driving off. It is rather dicey to have to find the windshield wiper control while going 70 mph in a sudden downpour at night. Yeah, I normally do that, at least when there's some light, which there (much) wasn't for our first rental. One time, after driving from SFO airport to somewhere in Silicon Valley, I found myself in front of the motel, unable to get the key out of the ignition. Had to push some unkown button, which European cars didn't/don't have. Quite annoying and embarrasing after a light flight from Europe. I didn't check the gas tank lid, but I filled up early and we had the nice lady in the mirror, hadn't we!? Hope you had a good time and saw some things different than from where you are. We had and did. If anything was even remotely 'familiar' it was Joshua Tree NP, Mojave NP and Death Valley NP, and it was only somewhat similar to the things we love in Australia, so we just had a cheaper - and sadly enough much shorter - trip, than our 'normal' trips to/in Australia. Our daughter asked "So the US is your new Australia?". Well it isn't, but it's beautiful as well and comparisons are equally sillay as unfair. I trust you were able to range as far north as Bodie and perhaps as far east as Zion. You next go, try working in Bryce, Capitol Reef, Arches, Canyonlands, Dead Horse Point, Goblin Valley, Mesa Verde, Monument Valley, etc. You won't regret doing so. (Without looking them up,) Most of the places you mention don't ring a bell. To be clear, we visited only California (and a tiny bit (Pahrump) of Nevada) and only a *part* of CA (see above). It's obvious how low Colorado has sunk when one examines the results of the Nov./08 election. |
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Sharx35 wrote:
I have a GREAT sense of humour, You fooled most of us. however I do NOT suffer Eurocentric fools gladly. Frome wence did you ancestors come? If they don't like it here in NORTH AMERICA, let them stay the **** AWAY. Alas a true Isolationist. Have you no need for tourist dollars? Dick |
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"Dick Adams" wrote in message ... Sharx35 wrote: I have a GREAT sense of humour, You fooled most of us. however I do NOT suffer Eurocentric fools gladly. Frome wence did you ancestors come? If they don't like it here in NORTH AMERICA, let them stay the **** AWAY. Alas a true Isolationist. Have you no need for tourist dollars? Dick Where I live, in Alberta, NO...absolutely not. |
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Sharx35 wrote:
"Dick Adams" wrote: Sharx35 wrote: If they don't like it here in NORTH AMERICA, let them stay the **** AWAY. Alas a true Isolationist. Have you no need for tourist dollars? Where I live, in Alberta, NO...absolutely not. Have you forgotten the tourist dollars from the Calgary Stampede? Winter comes early in western Canada east of the Continental Divide. If you're there in the dead of winter, -40C is not unusual. Per Weather.com, it was -15C in Edmonton today, but it felt like -26C. I'd stay the **** away too. If you're coming to the U.S. on holiday, come to the Promised Land of North Carolina where people treat strangers like kin. Dick |
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Report from the US, a nice but somewhat backward country.
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 05:48:49 GMT, "Sharx35"
wrote: Well, I have travelled in the U.S., too. After several dozen trips to the U.S., **MY** bad experiences are a fraction of yours. I suspect it might be due to your arrogant Eurocentric, obviously chip on the shoulder attitude to U.S. culture. I am not a U.S. resident nor a U.S. citizen, however I much prefer to travel in the U.S., compared to the continent of Europe snipped Oh please spare us in the US - you come across as such a charmer... |
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