Couple holding hands arrested in Malaysia

belgium isn't a real country
it's an artificial piece of land with two completely different communities

...with no respect at all for each other



and you know this, how?

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what other malaysian.
Good you ask for you may get the wrong impression.
People who live and have normal lives in Malaysia. You, who failed
school in Malaysia, and had to flee to the US for you could not find a
job, do not fit the term "other Malaysians"
Comprendo wanabee lawyer.


the next time the circus visits malaysia,
please do not be in it, monkey.
???
Wannebee lawyer, do not tell me this is Malaysian English!
This is just wrong English.

Traditions
are different and Malaysian rules are very hard for westernes, but we
have to respect these rules, when we are guest of this country.

[snip]

Yes to respecting them, but you really found it hard to live by
Malaysian rules while in Malaysia? Just which rule was hard for you?

Not at all.

I ment, it is not easy to keep allways in mind to behave differently as
if being at home. Things, that are pretty normal here aren't there, and
vice versa (ie. spitting on the ground or in a pot is very normal in
many countries, but not here. We have no pots for that. Personally I
think it's disgusting, but these people do not care (or not know). We do
not have the strict laws to forbid such behaving. Neither would we have
the resources to enforce such laws.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Webb"
Newsgroups: rec.travel.asia,soc.culture.malaysia
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 11:43 PM
Subject: Couple holding hands arrested in Malaysia
No, you have discrimanatory laws which do not allow ethnic Chinese and
Indians the same rights as ethnic Malays. All Australians have equal
rights
under law, and this is actually followed.


Can you explain why there's only very few if any none white minister in
Australia. Very few non white people heading or holding high goverment
position including the Army, the police force, the Ministry and many more ?.
Why is it religious holiday only limited to Christmas not chinese new year
or Deepavali ? Why is there no vernacular school in Australia ? In Malaysia
we dont have a non apparent system that hinder Non Bumiputra from holding
high goverment position (there's lot of Chinese and Indian Ministers/MPs,
head of department, high ranking army/police officers (including General)
etc).

Maybe the quota system in education and bussiness appeared to be unfair to
non Bumiputra in Malaysia. However, you shuld be happy to know that this
quota system is slowly being discarded.

Talking about discrimination, the Malays are equally discriminated. Put it
this way, if a Bumi apply for job/scholarships/bussiness deal whatever from
non Bumi institution, most likely that they wont get it even highly
qualified, or simply because the company has a ruling that they only accept
chinese speaking applicant (equivalent to no apparent discriminatory policy,
very prevalent especially in the old days). This is not a small matter when
60% of the ownership of bussiness are Non Bumi (long term sequalae of
British colonial system).

Why are you one sided ?. Maybe you should also talk about the Malays in
Singapore who are severely discriminated ?

Rowani

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 23:07:02 GMT, Pan wrote:


Right, though it doesn't seem that that's why they were arrested,
right?


Nope. I am guessing it has more to do with the allegation of
corruption on the part of the two officials.

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 23:08:59 GMT, Pan wrote:

Actually, it's up to anybody who deals with a visitor. It's probably a
pretty invariable truth that visitors who show respect for the country
and people who are hosting them tend to meet with a much friendlier
reception than those who show a total disregard - or worse, contempt -
for the pride, sensibilites, and traditions of their hosts.



Excuse intruder. He has no dignity.

What do you expect from a monkey who would do anything for a banana?

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 23:19:46 +0800, ignoramus
wrote:

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 23:08:59 GMT, Pan wrote:

Actually, it's up to anybody who deals with a visitor. It's probably a
pretty invariable truth that visitors who show respect for the country
and people who are hosting them tend to meet with a much friendlier
reception than those who show a total disregard - or worse, contempt -
for the pride, sensibilites, and traditions of their hosts.



Excuse intruder. He has no dignity.

What do you expect from a monkey who would do anything for a banana?

lol.

actually, in additon to dignity he has no genitals either. no wonder
it will do anything for a banana.

"Ezran" wrote in message
...


belgium isn't a real country
it's an artificial piece of land with two completely different
communities

...with no respect at all for each other

and you know this, how?

ROFL
I assure you, you don't want to know that...
;-)


You can probably start with this:
http://home.online.no/~vlaenen/flemi...ons/quste.html
( the website is made by someone living in political exile aboad)

and come back later


________________________________________
No, in a world of privilege I was not born
But, the devotion of freedom and liberty I was sworn
[....]
And I don't even know why
The truth seems like a lie...
[....]
Open up your skull and let some knowledge come in
Ya, crack open the cranium and let awareness begin
Oh.
[....]

(Rancid in 'arrested in belgium'
from the album Indestructible in 2003)

Thomas Stalder wrote in message ...


....

I ment, it is not easy to keep allways in mind to behave differently as
if being at home. Things, that are pretty normal here aren't there, and
vice versa (ie. spitting on the ground or in a pot is very normal in
many countries, but not here. We have no pots for that. Personally I

I never knew that spitting is disgusting to westerners but I do know burping
is disgusting to them but encouraged in Malaysia. However it is so dry
in UK that I don't have any need to spit at all. My mouth is dry all the time.

think it's disgusting, but these people do not care (or not know). We do
not have the strict laws to forbid such behaving. Neither would we have
the resources to enforce such laws.
They will enforce it by their looks and the nicer ones will give nice advise.

Spehro Pefhany wrote in message . ..
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 20:10:02 GMT, the renowned "Dieter Aaaa" Dieter
wrote:

....

A visible cohesive minority with strong work ethic, placing strong
values on education generates visible differences in wealth. The less
sucessful and less hard-working majority (with fewer connections)
cries "foul". Nothing inherently to do with religion.


Excellent summary but let me add a few points. The most successful minorities
are mostly those from more developed but overcrowded places, migrating to
less developed culturally and physically places. They have the advantage in
skills and knowledge as well as contacts with their countries of origin.