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Conservatives Challenge Iraq Policy
Conservatives challenge Iraq policy By BARRY SCHWEID, AP Diplomatic Writer 38 minutes ago A leading conservative proponent of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq now says dysfunction within the Bush administration has turned U.S. policy there into a disaster. Richard Perle, who chaired a committee of Pentagon policy advisers early in the Bush administration, said had he seen at the start of the war in 2003 where it would go, he probably would not have advocated an invasion to depose Saddam Hussein. Perle was an assistant secretary of defense under President Reagan. "I probably would have said, 'Let's consider other strategies for dealing with the thing that concerns us most, which is Saddam supplying weapons of mass destruction to terrorists,'" he told Vanity Fair magazine in its upcoming January issue. Meanwhile, the Military Times Media Group, a Gannett Co. subsidiary that publishes Army Times and other military-oriented periodicals, said Friday it was calling for Bush to fire Rumsfeld. An editorial due to be published Monday says active-duty military leaders are beginning to voice misgivings about the war's planning and execution and dimming prospects for success. It declares that "Rumsfeld has lost credibility with the uniformed leadership, with the troops, with Congress and with the public at large." The editorial concludes by saying that regardless of which party wins in next week's election, the time has come "to face the hard bruising truth: Donald Rumsfeld must go." When asked about the Vanity Fair article and Perle's criticism, White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe said, "We appreciate the Monday-morning quarterbacking, but the president has a plan to succeed in Iraq and we are going forward with it." Other prominent conservatives criticized the administration's conduct of the war in the article, including Kenneth Adelman, who also served on the Defense Policy Board that informally advised President Bush. Adelman said he was "crushed" by the performance of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld. The critiques in Vanity Fair come as growing numbers of Republicans have criticized Bush's policies on Iraq. The war, unpopular with many Americans, has become a top-tier issue in next week's congressional elections. Perle said "you have to hold the president responsible" because he didn't recognize "disloyalty" by some in the administration. He said the White House's National Security Council, then run by now-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, did not serve Bush properly. A year before the war, Adelman predicted demolishing Saddam's military power and liberating Iraq would be a "cakewalk." But he told the magazine he was mistaken in his high opinion of Bush's national security . "They turned out to be among the most incompetent teams in the postwar era," he said. "Not only did each of them, individually, have enormous flaws, but together they were deadly, dysfunctional." |
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Conservatives Challenge Iraq Policy
On 2006-11-04 11:04:11 -0500, Rita said:
A leading conservative proponent of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq now says dysfunction within the Bush administration has turned U.S. policy there into a disaster. [snip] So what else is new? This single issue, taken alone, is merely a drop in the bucket. EVERYTHING the Bush administration has done is a disaster. And everything his mouthpiece Congress has done is a disaster also. |
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Conservatives Challenge Iraq Policy
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:48:33 GMT, sechumlib
wrote: On 2006-11-04 11:04:11 -0500, Rita said: A leading conservative proponent of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq now says dysfunction within the Bush administration has turned U.S. policy there into a disaster. [snip] So what else is new? This single issue, taken alone, is merely a drop in the bucket. EVERYTHING the Bush administration has done is a disaster. And everything his mouthpiece Congress has done is a disaster also. We will find out how many Americans agree on Tuesday, barring a failure in the voting mechanisms, of course. I wonder it it was deliberate not to test many of these electronic voting machines before they are used for the first time? |
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Conservatives Challenge Iraq Policy
On 2006-11-04 18:41:58 -0500, Rita said:
We will find out how many Americans agree on Tuesday, barring a failure in the voting mechanisms, of course. I wonder it it was deliberate not to test many of these electronic voting machines before they are used for the first time? The Republicans have created a scenario where they can challenge virtually everyone who wants to vote but isn't a nice, comfortable, prosperous burgher. Woe to the blacks, Hispanics, etc., etc. who show up at the polls! Anyone who says this election isn't fixed is living in a dream world. |
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Conservatives Challenge Iraq Policy
On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 02:56:09 GMT, sechumlib
wrote: On 2006-11-04 18:41:58 -0500, Rita said: We will find out how many Americans agree on Tuesday, barring a failure in the voting mechanisms, of course. I wonder it it was deliberate not to test many of these electronic voting machines before they are used for the first time? The Republicans have created a scenario where they can challenge virtually everyone who wants to vote but isn't a nice, comfortable, prosperous burgher. Woe to the blacks, Hispanics, etc., etc. who show up at the polls! Anyone who says this election isn't fixed is living in a dream world. Must be fixed. They won't let me vote. The guy in the Oval Office makes decisions that directly affect my life - so I should be able to vote for or against him. Cheers, Alan, Australia -- http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/ latest: The Vatican http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/ |
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Conservatives Challenge Iraq Policy
On 2006-11-05 05:26:40 -0500, "Runge" said:
Why must you import crappy politics into a travel group ??!! Because it's the only kind there is, these days. |
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Conservatives Challenge Iraq Policy
On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 11:26:40 +0100, "Runge" wrote:
Why must you import crappy politics into a travel group ??!! Actually I did not intend my post to go to this group -- I made an error in not selecting the right group. I immediately canceled the post but apparently some people saw it. My apologies. Not that this is the only off topic post that has ever appeared, but I do try not do that. "Alan S" a écrit dans le message de news: ... On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 02:56:09 GMT, sechumlib wrote: On 2006-11-04 18:41:58 -0500, Rita said: We will find out how many Americans agree on Tuesday, barring a failure in the voting mechanisms, of course. I wonder it it was deliberate not to test many of these electronic voting machines before they are used for the first time? The Republicans have created a scenario where they can challenge virtually everyone who wants to vote but isn't a nice, comfortable, prosperous burgher. Woe to the blacks, Hispanics, etc., etc. who show up at the polls! Anyone who says this election isn't fixed is living in a dream world. Must be fixed. They won't let me vote. The guy in the Oval Office makes decisions that directly affect my life - so I should be able to vote for or against him. Cheers, Alan, Australia -- http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/ latest: The Vatican http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/ |
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Conservatives Challenge Iraq Policy
On 2006-11-05 09:43:45 -0500, Rita said:
Actually I did not intend my post to go to this group -- I made an error in not selecting the right group. I immediately canceled the post but apparently some people saw it. My apologies. Not that this is the only off topic post that has ever appeared, but I do try not do that. Somehow, I can't be very sympathetic toward people who want to escape politics two days before a big, highly contested and passion-surrounded election. |
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Conservatives Challenge Iraq Policy
In article 2006110511250816807-sechumlib@liberalnet,
sechumlib wrote: Somehow, I can't be very sympathetic toward people who want to escape politics two days before a big, highly contested and passion-surrounded election. Just because we don't want to plow through political postings on a travel group doesn't mean we're trying to "escape" politics. I personally have spent a good chunk of the last two days poring over the California voter guide and reading background information and recommendations on newspapers' websites. I have plenty of other sources I can turn to for political information apart from off-topic Usenet groups. And thanks to Rita for her apology. I suspected that it might have been an accidental posting in the first place. Patty |
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