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CO Changes Elite And Upgrade Policies for 2004
http://www.continental.com/onepass/n...0030910_02.asp
This is the excuse I needed to jump ship - as soon as I use my miles. Bye CO. |
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CO Changes Elite And Upgrade Policies for 2004
acenturi wrote:
http://www.continental.com/onepass/n...0030910_02.asp This is the excuse I needed to jump ship - as soon as I use my miles. Bye CO. Was there something specific?It looks like you get full elite credit for leisure fares booked online. |
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CO Changes Elite And Upgrade Policies for 2004
"acenturi" wrote in message ... http://www.continental.com/onepass/n...0030910_02.asp This is the excuse I needed to jump ship - as soon as I use my miles. Bye CO. The change is only to international upgrades, not domestic. CO has added a waitlist fee, whereas before it was not possible to waitlist for an international upgrade and get it at the airport -- if you didn't get it by 3-days before, you didn't get it, period. However, given your apparent dissatisfaction with CO, I think everyone will be happier all around if you switched to another carrier. |
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CO Changes Elite And Upgrade Policies for 2004
PTRAVEL wrote:
"acenturi" wrote in message ... http://www.continental.com/onepass/n...0030910_02.asp This is the excuse I needed to jump ship - as soon as I use my miles. Bye CO. The change is only to international upgrades, not domestic. CO has added a waitlist fee, whereas before it was not possible to waitlist for an international upgrade and get it at the airport -- if you didn't get it by 3-days before, you didn't get it, period. Do you lose the waitless fee if you don't get the upgrade? |
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CO Changes Elite And Upgrade Policies for 2004
"mrtravel" wrote in message .com... PTRAVEL wrote: "acenturi" wrote in message ... http://www.continental.com/onepass/n...0030910_02.asp This is the excuse I needed to jump ship - as soon as I use my miles. Bye CO. The change is only to international upgrades, not domestic. CO has added a waitlist fee, whereas before it was not possible to waitlist for an international upgrade and get it at the airport -- if you didn't get it by 3-days before, you didn't get it, period. Do you lose the waitless fee if you don't get the upgrade? That appears to be the case, if I'm reading the website correctly. Not a good deal at all, IMHO. |
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CO Changes Elite And Upgrade Policies for 2004
"acenturi" wrote in message ...
http://www.continental.com/onepass/n...0030910_02.asp This is the excuse I needed to jump ship - as soon as I use my miles. Bye CO. Which begs the question "to where?". You can find folks frustrated with many of the plans, but to "jump ship" either implies you've found a better ship to sail, or you plan on going for a swim. |
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CO Changes Elite And Upgrade Policies for 2004
"PTRAVEL" wrote in message ...
"acenturi" wrote in message ... http://www.continental.com/onepass/n...0030910_02.asp This is the excuse I needed to jump ship - as soon as I use my miles. Bye CO. The change is only to international upgrades, not domestic. CO has added a waitlist fee, whereas before it was not possible to waitlist for an international upgrade and get it at the airport -- if you didn't get it by 3-days before, you didn't get it, period. Not familiar with this new policy YET. But what you said about "waitlist for an international upgrade ... befire it was not possible" is not true, at least for Platinum Elite members (sorry, hadn't been anything else :-). For international BF upgrades, FF miles are required; and for the transAtlantic ones (unlike some Asian routes), they are not confirmed until 30 days before departure date, even for Platinum Elite members -- and IF they are not confirmed at that time, Platinum Elite members are placed on a "wait list" until the actual time of the flight, and the requested upgrade can be cancelled up to the last minute, WITHOUT penalty (i.e., no FF charged)! Been there. Done that. However, given your apparent dissatisfaction with CO, I think everyone will be happier all around if you switched to another carrier. LOL! But very true. That's more or less what I said to Vitaly Shmatikov when he was knocking CO in favor of AA. But look what happened. :-) I hope this new policy will convince Shmatikov to jump ship! Having given the new rule a quick perusal on the cited page, at least the TERMS of new rule will give many folks good (or better) reasons to jump ship because they don't have much on whatever ship. :-) As for me, I don't see any ship on the horizon to which I wanna jump. Besides, I have very good use for the million unused CO FF miles even if I don't fly CO again. :-)) I can say THIS about CO's move -- even though I don't like the additional fees and "add-on" costs anymore than the next person. Nearly ALL MAJOR airlines were on the verge of bankrupcy. Without the billions pumped in by Uncle Sam, AA, Delta, and perhaps even CO would have gone Chapter 11. They are STILL operating in the red, WITH the subside, but LESS RED. That's why CO's stocks went up something like 50% within the latest month (read it on New York Times or the Wall Street Journal while waiting for flights). Their RED in the quarter was much LESS RED than that in the same quarter a year before. Not so AA, which is still the biggest RED INK operator that's not yet belly up. Continental Airlines is a BUSINESS. A business to make money! It EXPECTS (hopes) to start operating in the black by next year. The new rules (among other changes) are just some of the NECESSARY changes to bring in more revenue to save its own neck. The bottom line is always the same: It's a FREE MARKET. No one forces anyone to fly any particular airline. It's up to an individual to do his/her cost-benefit analysis to come to a choice. The "jump ship" choice may be the correct choice for some, and not for others. I am pretty sure I am in the "others" camp. :-) YMMV as we say, and its doubly applicable here. -- Bob. |
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CO Changes Elite And Upgrade Policies for 2004
"Reef Fish" wrote in message om... "PTRAVEL" wrote in message ... "acenturi" wrote in message ... http://www.continental.com/onepass/n...0030910_02.asp This is the excuse I needed to jump ship - as soon as I use my miles. Bye CO. The change is only to international upgrades, not domestic. CO has added a waitlist fee, whereas before it was not possible to waitlist for an international upgrade and get it at the airport -- if you didn't get it by 3-days before, you didn't get it, period. Not familiar with this new policy YET. But what you said about "waitlist for an international upgrade ... befire it was not possible" is not true, at least for Platinum Elite members (sorry, hadn't been anything else :-). I've only been gold (though consistently). I guess that's another advantage of being platinum. The good news is, my trip next week should get me platinum. For international BF upgrades, FF miles are required; and for the transAtlantic ones (unlike some Asian routes), they are not confirmed until 30 days before departure date, even for Platinum Elite members -- and IF they are not confirmed at that time, Platinum Elite members are placed on a "wait list" until the actual time of the flight, and the requested upgrade can be cancelled up to the last minute, WITHOUT penalty (i.e., no FF charged)! Been there. Done that. Ah, well, that is the same thing as for gold. At least at gold level, though, if the waitlist hasn't cleared by 3-days prior to flight, you're flying coach. However, given your apparent dissatisfaction with CO, I think everyone will be happier all around if you switched to another carrier. LOL! But very true. That's more or less what I said to Vitaly Shmatikov when he was knocking CO in favor of AA. But look what happened. :-) I hope this new policy will convince Shmatikov to jump ship! Having given the new rule a quick perusal on the cited page, at least the TERMS of new rule will give many folks good (or better) reasons to jump ship because they don't have much on whatever ship. :-) As for me, I don't see any ship on the horizon to which I wanna jump. Besides, I have very good use for the million unused CO FF miles even if I don't fly CO again. :-)) I can say THIS about CO's move -- even though I don't like the additional fees and "add-on" costs anymore than the next person. Nearly ALL MAJOR airlines were on the verge of bankrupcy. Without the billions pumped in by Uncle Sam, AA, Delta, and perhaps even CO would have gone Chapter 11. They are STILL operating in the red, WITH the subside, but LESS RED. That's why CO's stocks went up something like 50% within the latest month (read it on New York Times or the Wall Street Journal while waiting for flights). Their RED in the quarter was much LESS RED than that in the same quarter a year before. Not so AA, which is still the biggest RED INK operator that's not yet belly up. Continental Airlines is a BUSINESS. A business to make money! It EXPECTS (hopes) to start operating in the black by next year. The new rules (among other changes) are just some of the NECESSARY changes to bring in more revenue to save its own neck. The bottom line is always the same: It's a FREE MARKET. No one forces anyone to fly any particular airline. It's up to an individual to do his/her cost-benefit analysis to come to a choice. The "jump ship" choice may be the correct choice for some, and not for others. I am pretty sure I am in the "others" camp. :-) YMMV as we say, and its doubly applicable here. -- Bob. |
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CO Changes Elite And Upgrade Policies for 2004
"PTRAVEL" wrote in message
... acenturi This is the excuse I needed to jump ship - as soon as I use my miles. acenturi Bye CO. PTR The change is only to international upgrades, not domestic. CO has PTR added a waitlist fee, whereas before it was not possible to waitlist PTR for an international upgrade and get it at the airport -- if you didn't PTR get it by 3-days before, you didn't get it, period. RF Not familiar with this new policy YET. RF RF But what you said about "waitlist for an international upgrade ... befire RF it was not possible" is not true, at least for Platinum Elite members RF (sorry, hadn't been anything else :-). I've only been gold (though consistently). I guess that's another advantage of being platinum. That's true. The good news is, my trip next week should get me platinum. Congratulations!! You'll beat me to that status for 2004 by a little over 2 months. But the advantage for Platinum IS shrinking, even for NOW -- to be fair to the complainers. My previous trip to HKG was right after 9/11/01. The coach fare eligible for BG upgrade was only about $100 more than the cheapest coach fare, which was deeply discounted (something like $600 roundtrip) and the FFM upgrade was confirmed months before the trip. The cheapest CO coach fare from ATL to HKG this Nov was about $745 this morning, and the cheapest eligible fare for FFM BF upgrade was more than $1,500, and that's not counting the FFMs required for the upgrade ... and I would have to be on a WAIT LIST for that! For international BF upgrades, FF miles are required; and for the transAtlantic ones (unlike some Asian routes), they are not confirmed until 30 days before departure date, even for Platinum Elite members -- and IF they are not confirmed at that time, Platinum Elite members are placed on a "wait list" until the actual time of the flight, and the requested upgrade can be cancelled up to the last minute, WITHOUT penalty (i.e., no FF charged)! Been there. Done that. Ah, well, that is the same thing as for gold. At least at gold level, though, if the waitlist hasn't cleared by 3-days prior to flight, you're flying coach. Sounds the same then. Having given the new rule a quick perusal on the cited page, at least the TERMS of new rule will give many folks good (or better) reasons to jump ship because they don't have much on whatever ship. :-) As for me, I don't see any ship on the horizon to which I wanna jump. Besides, I have very good use for the million unused CO FF miles even if I don't fly CO again. :-)) An example of the above is that 1 Million CO FFM can be exchanged to 2M Hilton Honors Hotel points -- an exchange rate better than the FFM of any other airline. For a mere 175,000 HH points, or 87,500 CO FFMs which has the nominal equivalent of $1,750 USD cash, I could stay at the best available room in Conrad in HK for 6 nights. The CASH rate for said room would be at least $3,600 USD for 6 nights. It doesn't take a rocket scientest (I wonder where that dumb expression came form G) to figure out the monetary value of the CO FFMs even if one DOESN'T FLY with those points. SNIP The "jump ship" choice may be the correct choice for some, and not for others. I am pretty sure I am in the "others" camp. :-) YMMV as we say, and its doubly applicable here. -- Bob. |
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CO Changes Elite And Upgrade Policies for 2004
"Reef Fish" wrote in message om... snip The cheapest CO coach fare from ATL to HKG this Nov was about $745 this morning, and the cheapest eligible fare for FFM BF upgrade was more than $1,500, and that's not counting the FFMs required for the upgrade ... and I would have to be on a WAIT LIST for that! Ugh! We go to Hong Kong quite a bit, though usually on Northwest, via Tokyo. If Northwest matches CO's policy, it looks like it's coach for us. snip Having given the new rule a quick perusal on the cited page, at least the TERMS of new rule will give many folks good (or better) reasons to jump ship because they don't have much on whatever ship. :-) As for me, I don't see any ship on the horizon to which I wanna jump. Besides, I have very good use for the million unused CO FF miles even if I don't fly CO again. :-)) An example of the above is that 1 Million CO FFM can be exchanged to 2M Hilton Honors Hotel points -- an exchange rate better than the FFM of any other airline. For a mere 175,000 HH points, or 87,500 CO FFMs which has the nominal equivalent of $1,750 USD cash, I could stay at the best available room in Conrad in HK for 6 nights. The CASH rate for said room would be at least $3,600 USD for 6 nights. It doesn't take a rocket scientest (I wonder where that dumb expression came form G) to figure out the monetary value of the CO FFMs even if one DOESN'T FLY with those points. I've always felt that frequent stay points (particularly Marriott's) offer a far better deal than the airlines. For 50,000 points (which I can get with about 5-7 stays of 2-3 nights each), I can get 5 nights at premium Marriott properties in Europe or Asia that would otherwise cost between $200 and $400 night. SNIP The "jump ship" choice may be the correct choice for some, and not for others. I am pretty sure I am in the "others" camp. :-) YMMV as we say, and its doubly applicable here. -- Bob. |
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