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How To Prevent Destruction of Airline Industry: Non-Profit Vertical Oil Company
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:34:57 -0400, Kurt Ullman
wrote: In article , "Mr. Travel" wrote: It isn't that they have to learn. The ability to hedge requires that the airline has a sound financial position. All it requires is that they spend the money. It is priority thing. Which, of course, thet have loads of don't they? |
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How To Prevent Destruction of Airline Industry: Non-Profit Vertical Oil Company
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:53:47 -0700, dgs wrote:
Robert Cohen wrote: " Co-op Jet Fuel" The industry consists of all or any of the airlines in the U.S. and perhaps the world. The airline companies purchase partnerships or shares in the consortium. Why bother with oil? How about a truly alternative approach? Like, for instance, the consortium enterw into contracts to exploit Montana's coal reserves, and build Fischer-Tropsch-style processing plants to convert the coal into jet-compatible fuel? This can be blended with petroleum-based jet fuel if need be, but maybe the airlines could have a way to step away from the oil stream entirely ... ? Great idea but how do you plan to handle the environmentalists who won't let you do it? |
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How To Prevent Destruction of Airline Industry: Non-ProfitVertical Oil Company
On Apr 22, 2:39*pm, Robert Cohen wrote:
On Apr 22, 11:53*am, dgs wrote: Robert Cohen wrote: " Co-op Jet Fuel" The industry consists of all or any of the airlines in the U.S. and perhaps the world. The airline companies purchase partnerships or shares in the consortium. Why bother with oil? *How about a truly alternative approach? *Like, for instance, the consortium enterw into contracts to exploit Montana's coal reserves, and build Fischer-Tropsch-style processing plants to convert the coal into jet-compatible fuel? *This can be blended with petroleum-based jet fuel if need be, but maybe the airlines could have a way to step away from the oil stream entirely ... ? -- dgs I recall a boast *that Jet Blue is involved with researching fuel from coal, which is nothing new since this has been done by necessity by Germany and possibly by South Africa during their infamous crises in the 20th century My totally irrational politically know nuthin prejudiced opinion: The U.S. govt under Bush II is not going to take any oil market away from the oil industry. Maybe Hillary, Barack, and McCain would, while McCain thinks ethanol a boondoggle (and he's probably accurate). If they'd make the mentanol-ethanol from kudzu and some other weeds and waste, I'd certainly be gungho for it. But there are food riots on-going now, which is a predictable result but damn awful thing. Coal--fuels is an obvious thing, and I suppose private industry would bring it about if, say, the airlines and/or trucking companies, assured the industry of buyers for the seemingly higher priced "coal derived fuels." When the production of coal fuel is massive, the price is market- lowered and via economy of scales. "Filler-up with kudzu" is my first preference, though coal seems to me to be alreadty be historically proven. Steam a la Stanley Steamer (1920s car and name of a rug cleaning franchise) is my preference after garbage, chicken and pig waste. Wouldn't millions of steam vehicles do in the atmosphere/ionsphere a la global warming.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The culprit for the starvation is ethanol as explained: http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe...rss_topstories |
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How To Prevent Destruction of Airline Industry: Non-Profit Vertical Oil Company
In message Benjamin Dover
wrote: Put them on the "No Fly" list. They'll just use even more fuel by driving. |
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How To Prevent Destruction of Airline Industry: Non-Profit Vertical Oil Company
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:20:41 -0400, Kurt Ullman
wrote: In article , (John Kulp) wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:34:57 -0400, Kurt Ullman wrote: In article , "Mr. Travel" wrote: It isn't that they have to learn. The ability to hedge requires that the airline has a sound financial position. All it requires is that they spend the money. It is priority thing. Which, of course, thet have loads of don't they? Nope. But as I said, it seems logical to try and control that what is your first or second greatest expense. At least part of it. They had more cash when the cost of fuel went up? Yes they did and, of course, that is exactly what they are all trying to do. |
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How To Prevent Destruction of Airline Industry: Non-Profit Vertical Oil Company
DevilsPGD wrote in
: In message Benjamin Dover wrote: Put them on the "No Fly" list. They'll just use even more fuel by driving. But they won't be able to run around the country delivering their message as easily. Many years ago, there was one of these ecoNazis who railled against the airlines for wasting fuel. He managed to get on the late night shows and I'll never forget how Johnny Carson cut him to ribbons. The ecoNazi said that it wasn't necessary for three airlines to run 5 flights a day from NY to LA and also 5 flights a day from NY to SF, most of which were less than half full. They should eliminate at least half the flights and fly NY to LA to SF or NY to SF to LA. He kept giving example after example like this. Johnny then sucked him in by telling the ecoNazi what a great idea he had and then calmly asked where in the last week he had talked about this great idea. The ecoNazi rattled off an impressive list of cities he had visited in the past week to give this "speech". Johnny then asked him how, if his idea had been implemented, he would have had the flexibility in airline flights to keep such a schedule. The ecoNazi literally freaked out and was unable to make any intelligible sounds for the rest of his interview. |
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How To Prevent Destruction of Airline Industry: Non-Profit VerticalOil Company
Robert Cohen wrote:
Wouldn't millions of steam vehicles do in the atmosphere/ionsphere a la global warming. What fuel would they use to make the steam? The problem is that we can save oil in other ways, without killing the airlines. Ethanol is an issue because it competes with the global food supply Gasoline is a problem because it increases the price of oil for industries that REALLY need it, like airlines. Electrical energy for cars, homes, and businesses would dramatically reduce our dependence on oil. However, in the US this is problem, because fossil fuels are being used to get electricity. What we need are more nuclear power plants. In fact, burning coal sends more radioactive waste into our atmosphere than nuclear power plants would. |
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