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Old June 13th, 2004, 05:11 PM
sneakysneak
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devil wrote in message ...

???

If the US who get enough capacity, the price of gas would come down quite
a bit. Crude prices are used as a convenient culprit. But their direct
impact is much less than the increases. Difference ends up in the oil
companies profit.


What I meant is if the USA could meet their refining capacity to satisfy
their domestic demand, is there enough oil reserves in the USA to meet
the demand of US consumers, or would they still need to import oil from
foreign sources? No country is totally self-sufficient in theory, because
if they were, there wouldn't be a need for imports and exports. The world's
countries need trading partners to a certain extent, whether it is based on
basic needs, strategic purposes, or some other reason, I don't think any
country could stand alone, but some are better equipped to do so (USA),
than others (i.e. impoverished Third World nations), in terms of
dependence or reliance on trade from foreign countries. It is probably
in the best interests of all countries to strengthen their relations
on all fronts (political, ecnomic, social, cultural, athletic, etc.)
with as many countries as possible. Isolationism has a price. How
much does taxation pay in the role of US gas prices that consumers
are paying at the pump? In Canada, and other Western countries, the
government gobbles up a big slice of oil and gas revenues? I'm wondering
if the US federal government takes a big chunk of the revenues in the
form of taxes, like they do in other countries.
  #272  
Old June 13th, 2004, 07:25 PM
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Miguel Cruz wrote in message ...
devil wrote:
On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 02:17:22 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:
Most people in the world wouldn't even recognize a Canadian flag, much less accord its wearer any special kindnesses. . .


Whether or not everyone outside North America recognizes a Canadian
flag is not the point of the original question, I think. The question
was does wearing one differentiate people from loud and rude
Americans, who are not liked by hoteliers, restaurant owners and the
like, anywhere in the world. There are lots of great Americans
travelling the globe, I'm sure. But as a Canadian who has travelled
widely for years, I can tell you with certainty that wearing a
Canadian pin or flag and behaving politely and with consideration to
those who are your hosts does indeed make a difference, a big one.
Ask an identified Canadian what Europeans in particular have told them
about "rude yanks." Obviously, wearing a Canadian flag doesn't solve
all problems or preclude bad treatment, it just opens a lot of doors
that are closed to a certain type of American. It's also worth noting
that there are obnoxious Canadians. It's just that there is also a
swaggering, do-my-bidding stereotype of Americans that this whole
thread is addressing. And no, there isn't a western flag in the world
that protects you completely from harm in war zones.
  #273  
Old June 13th, 2004, 07:36 PM
Go Fig
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In article , eileen
wrote:

Miguel Cruz wrote in message
...
devil wrote:
On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 02:17:22 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:
Most people in the world wouldn't even recognize a Canadian flag, much
less accord its wearer any special kindnesses. . .


Whether or not everyone outside North America recognizes a Canadian
flag is not the point of the original question, I think. The question
was does wearing one differentiate people from loud and rude
Americans, who are not liked by hoteliers, restaurant owners and the
like, anywhere in the world.


While not too comprehensive, the UK travel web site, who actually
conducted a poll among this group you mention... rated U.S. travelers
among the best in the world... and above Canadians.

jay
Sun Jun 13, 2004







There are lots of great Americans
travelling the globe, I'm sure. But as a Canadian who has travelled
widely for years, I can tell you with certainty that wearing a
Canadian pin or flag and behaving politely and with consideration to
those who are your hosts does indeed make a difference, a big one.
Ask an identified Canadian what Europeans in particular have told them
about "rude yanks." Obviously, wearing a Canadian flag doesn't solve
all problems or preclude bad treatment, it just opens a lot of doors
that are closed to a certain type of American. It's also worth noting
that there are obnoxious Canadians. It's just that there is also a
swaggering, do-my-bidding stereotype of Americans that this whole
thread is addressing. And no, there isn't a western flag in the world
that protects you completely from harm in war zones.

  #274  
Old June 13th, 2004, 08:12 PM
AlmostBob
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I am not Canadian or American, in this issue I have no vested interest, but
note that

"and the rockets red glare
the bombs bursting in air
gave proof through the night
that our flag was still there"

What national anthem says the only reason they know they exist is that people
are shooting at them,
not a lot has changed, except the number of people who shoot at them
the travel web and the hoteliers both have vested interests in misrepresenting
any disgust they may have with their customer base, anecdotal evidence
suggests otherwise

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"Go Fig" wrote in message
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| In article , eileen
| wrote:
|
| Miguel Cruz wrote in message
| ...
| devil wrote:
| On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 02:17:22 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:
| Most people in the world wouldn't even recognize a Canadian flag,
much
| less accord its wearer any special kindnesses. . .
|
| Whether or not everyone outside North America recognizes a Canadian
| flag is not the point of the original question, I think. The question
| was does wearing one differentiate people from loud and rude
| Americans, who are not liked by hoteliers, restaurant owners and the
| like, anywhere in the world.
|
| While not too comprehensive, the UK travel web site, who actually
| conducted a poll among this group you mention... rated U.S. travelers
| among the best in the world... and above Canadians.
|
| jay
| Sun Jun 13, 2004
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| There are lots of great Americans
| travelling the globe, I'm sure. But as a Canadian who has travelled
| widely for years, I can tell you with certainty that wearing a
| Canadian pin or flag and behaving politely and with consideration to
| those who are your hosts does indeed make a difference, a big one.
| Ask an identified Canadian what Europeans in particular have told them
| about "rude yanks." Obviously, wearing a Canadian flag doesn't solve
| all problems or preclude bad treatment, it just opens a lot of doors
| that are closed to a certain type of American. It's also worth noting
| that there are obnoxious Canadians. It's just that there is also a
| swaggering, do-my-bidding stereotype of Americans that this whole
| thread is addressing. And no, there isn't a western flag in the world
| that protects you completely from harm in war zones.


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Old June 13th, 2004, 08:19 PM
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"AlmostBob" wrote in message
...
I am not Canadian or American, in this issue I have no vested interest,

but
note that

"and the rockets red glare
the bombs bursting in air
gave proof through the night
that our flag was still there"


Set to the tune, written in 1777, by Englishman John Stafford Smith. It was
originally a setting to the poem 'The Anacreon in Heaven' a favourite of the
London drinking club called the Anacreontic Society. By 1820 at least 84
other poems and songs were being sung to that same melody;-).

What national anthem says the only reason they know they exist is that

people
are shooting at them,
not a lot has changed, except the number of people who shoot at them
the travel web and the hoteliers both have vested interests in

misrepresenting
any disgust they may have with their customer base, anecdotal evidence
suggests otherwise





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Old June 13th, 2004, 08:20 PM
Go Fig
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In article , AlmostBob
wrote:

I am not Canadian or American, in this issue I have no vested interest, but
note that

"and the rockets red glare
the bombs bursting in air
gave proof through the night
that our flag was still there"

What national anthem says the only reason they know they exist is that people
are shooting at them,
not a lot has changed, except the number of people who shoot at them
the travel web and the hoteliers both have vested interests in misrepresenting
any disgust they may have with their customer base, anecdotal evidence
suggests otherwise


Which evidence might that be ?

What are the words to your National Anthem, when were they first
written ?

jay
Sun Jun 13, 2004

  #277  
Old June 14th, 2004, 03:48 AM
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"http://www.iamnotamerican.com" wrote:

in a recent article, E. Barry Bruyea ) said:

Jerk. Can you comprehend that, Jerk? Germany declared war on the U.S.;
not the other way around.

Actually, Germany did no such thing.


Actually, Germany did.


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Old June 14th, 2004, 04:32 AM
Miguel Cruz
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AlmostBob wrote:
the travel web and the hoteliers both have vested interests in
misrepresenting any disgust they may have with their customer base,
anecdotal evidence suggests otherwise


Now you're arguing blatant (and completely unsupported) speculation against
at least plausible fact.

What possible interest do hoteliers have in lying to an anonymous poll?

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  #279  
Old June 14th, 2004, 05:09 AM
Go Fig
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In article , Miguel Cruz
wrote:

AlmostBob wrote:
the travel web and the hoteliers both have vested interests in
misrepresenting any disgust they may have with their customer base,
anecdotal evidence suggests otherwise


Now you're arguing blatant (and completely unsupported) speculation against
at least plausible fact.

What possible interest do hoteliers have in lying to an anonymous poll?


They rate the U.K. among the very bottom of travelers. Did those with a
vested interest all get to together and decided to write-off the UK
traveler and the cash they bring ?

jay
Sun Jun 13, 2004





miguel

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Old June 14th, 2004, 05:09 AM
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Ack wrote:
Anonymouse wrote:

Hi,

a lot of people don't realize that in 1942 Stalin was Time's "man of
the year" and remington and others were making mosin-nagant rifles for
the soviets.



That's because people are too busy remembering that the american
goverment was still funding the Nazis at the same time.


Hi,

please provide a cite of the government funding the german national
socialist party... or their government for that matter.

before the declaration of war we were technically neutral... so we
"loaned" our allies their supplies (like savage made enfield rifles for
the british or remington made mosin-nagants for the russians).

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