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Evidence that the USA is becoming a police state
On Sep 29, 2:45 pm, "Timothy Golden BandTechnology.com"
wrote: On Sep 29, 4:19 pm, - wrote: On Sep 28, 3:57 pm, "Frank F. Matthews" wrote: Alohacyberian wrote: "Frank F. Matthews" wrote in message .. . sharx35 wrote: "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/PleeceState.html Get some professional help for your paranoia. Actually the it may be a real fear. One of my students was stopped and told that she was not allowed to take photographs while on a public street. Was she told that by a policeman? Was she lying in the middle of a busy public street? Was she just plain lying? Such an insignificant example is hardly evidence of a "police state" - a favorite Communist misnomer exhumed from the '60s. Anyone who suggests, nay even hints, that the United States is a "police state" is only illustrating complete lack of knowledge of the definition of the term. Nazi Germany was a police state; Fascist Italy was a police state; Franco's Spain was a police state; every Communist country in the world was a police state as are many who are totalitarian dictatorships. KM She was told that by a local policeman and I have no reason to not believe her. It is a story told me by the individual involved. You are getting it second hand but it is still fairly direct. Such control is exactly evidence of a "police state" mentality. Please understand that what you've said begs for more information however. Your student's story is simply unbelievable solely on the face of what you reported. The fact is that at this very moment in America, tens of thousands of people are taking tens of thousands of photos from public places, and no police force is stopping them. I have done it thousands of times myself, often in the presence of police nearby, and not once has any of them ever had one word to say about it. To use your logic, this is rather evidence of an open society. Either the police officer your student encountered was a rogue or there simply is more to the story; as another suggested, perhaps she was blocking a busy sidewalk, or so on. But it's not believable juston the basis of the minimal amont of info you presented. What about the John Kerry event? Was the guy trying to take a picture from a public sidewalk? I forget. Some guy was hypertased beyond necessity. I don't know about the point of non-necessity, but he sure kept begging for quite some time for the cops to escalate. No one says to cops after they've been taken into custody, "Just let me go and I will walk away." It doesn't work like that. Then he continues fighting them and trying to escape. Kerry asked that it stop so he could answer the question. If that isn't a fear tactic then I don't know what is. They sure did a nice job of keeping the next guy from speaking up. Did they? Were there no further questions or was that the end of the forum? Do you know or did you make that up? I ask because I don't know either. I've only heard this second-hand but it's come up a couple of times this way. Anyone got a YouTube link to this? You haven't seen one of the most viewed YouTubes of all time? In any case, we know why the fellow there was tasered, did you see his behavior? I wouldn't have done it and don't support it but I wasn't there. I found it disturbing. Realize also these were Kampus Kops and the guy set up the whole thing so that his pre-planned disruption would be videoed. This is different from the case I commented on. Again, there seems to be much that is missing from the account. It is simply a fact that again, at this very moment, tends of thousands of photos are being taken in public places, many of them with police nearby and aware of it, and nothing is being done ot stop it because it is not illegal, This is evidence not of a police state but an open society, A single exception here and there doesn't alter this. |
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