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Holiday in Cambodia
Dänk 1010011010 wrote:
Tomorrow I take a 12-hour bus trip from Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam to Siem Reap, Cambodia. The Cambodian people are still recovering from a horrific Communist revolution/genocide that occurred in the 1970s. Pol Pot believed that the bourgeoisie must be purged if the Revolution to succeed, so he killed everyone educated in the old ways, including doctors, lawyers, engineers, and even people with glasses because he thought they looked educated. It wasn't communism then was it? -- Regards, Fred (remove FFFf from my email address to reply by email) |
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Holiday in Cambodia
On Dec 4, 10:38*pm, Fred Williams wrote:
Dänk 1010011010 wrote: Tomorrow I take a 12-hour bus trip from Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam to Siem Reap, Cambodia. The Cambodian people are still recovering from a horrific Communist revolution/genocide that occurred in the 1970s. *Pol Pot believed that the bourgeoisie must be purged if the Revolution to succeed, so he killed everyone educated in the old ways, including doctors, lawyers, engineers, and even people with glasses because he thought they looked educated. * * * * It wasn't communism then was it? It was probably a purer form of communism than other communist revolutions, which typically stop at the socialist stage. Socialism differs from theoretical communism in that communism is classless, while socialism has two classes - the ruling elite and the proletariat. Of course, after exterminating the old elite, the Khmer Rouge became the new elite, so it wasn't a truly communist society. True communism is leaderless, which is unnatural for human beings and thus an impossible form of society. |
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Holiday in Cambodia
Dänk 1010011010 wrote:
On Dec 4, 10:38 pm, Fred Williams wrote: Dänk 1010011010 wrote: Tomorrow I take a 12-hour bus trip from Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam to Siem Reap, Cambodia. The Cambodian people are still recovering from a horrific Communist revolution/genocide that occurred in the 1970s. Pol Pot believed that the bourgeoisie must be purged if the Revolution to succeed, so he killed everyone educated in the old ways, including doctors, lawyers, engineers, and even people with glasses because he thought they looked educated. It wasn't communism then was it? It was probably a purer form of communism than other communist revolutions, which typically stop at the socialist stage. Socialism differs from theoretical communism in that communism is classless, while socialism has two classes - the ruling elite and the proletariat. Well, I think socialism does something to mitigate the class differences and it puts some power in the hands of the people. Of course my theory says that if it is based on scarce money, then it too will eventually degrade into capitalism and destroy itself. Of course, after exterminating the old elite, the Khmer Rouge became the new elite, so it wasn't a truly communist society. True communism is leaderless, which is unnatural for human beings and thus an impossible form of society. Leaderlessness may not be that unnatural. True it has seldom been tried and the Unprogrammed Quaker meetings are an example, but they tend to get more involved with process than results so while they attain a certain inner peace, it does little to help the rest of the world. Human nature is tough to pin down, because it is so flexible that humans can adapt to just about any conditions. A leaderless society, (which is anarchistic process in essence), would be no harder to take than being enslaved to a leader. Equality, (which is basically another name for it), would be marginally better because each person gets to put in their 2 cents worth and be heard. Although when the numbers are large it may seem like you've given up control, but no more so than if you work for a company that has the only objective of making more profits in an artificial economy that is in the process of destroying itself. You have no control at all there. When everybody gets to participate equally in the decision making process, then at least you get decisions that benefit the masses, assuming that the masses are reasonably educated. Seeing that your neighbours *are* reasonably educated then becomes in the interest of all, because these are the people who will be participating in decisions that will affect you. In domination and control models, power figures have it in their own best interests to keep the population uneducated, in order to make them more controllable and dependent on the more educated ruling class. Now you know what drives the education levels in various countries. -- Regards, Fred (remove FFFf from my email address to reply by email) |
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