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Cunard QUEEN VICTORIA going to P&O to become ARCADIA!!
Could this mean that Carnival/Cunard finally figured out that a Vista Class
ship is not suitable for Cunard? Maybe they are finally seeing the big picture? No word on *if* the "new" QUEEN VICTORIA will be an entirely new class of ship. We only know she will be "enhanced". Ernie ============================== Cruise operator Carnival to restructure UK capacity Monday April 5, 8:53 am ET Cruise operator Carnival to restructure UK capacity Monday April 5, 8:53 am ET LONDON, April 5 (Reuters) - The world's biggest cruise group, Carnival Corp/Plc (London:CCL.L - News; NYSE:CCL - News), said on Monday it would start operating two new luxury ships over the next three years, as it announced a restructuring of its UK capacity. The firm said the Queen Victoria ship being built at Italy's Fincantieri Marghera Yard for its Cunard Line brand would now be transferred to P&O Cruises and renamed as Arcadia. The new Arcadia is scheduled to enter service in April 2005. It said Cunard Line had ordered an enhanced Queen Victoria, also to be built by Fincantieri, and scheduled to enter service in January 2007. Carnival operates 12 cruise brands in the U.S., Europe and Australia including Carnival Cruise Lines, Holland America Line, Princess Cruises, Seabourn Cruise Line, Windstar Cruises, AIDA, Costa Cruises, Cunard Line, Ocean Village, P&O Cruises, Swan Hellenic, and P&O Cruises Australia. (reporting by Santosh Menon |
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Cunard QUEEN VICTORIA going to P&O to become ARCADIA!!
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 09:13:30 -0400, "E.k.R."
wrote: Could this mean that Carnival/Cunard finally figured out that a Vista Class ship is not suitable for Cunard? Maybe they are finally seeing the big picture? No word on *if* the "new" QUEEN VICTORIA will be an entirely new class of ship. We only know she will be "enhanced". Hi Ernie, The "new" Queen Victoria WILL be built on the Vista Class hull. Industry sources are reporting that she will have a larger ballroom & more alternative dining areas than the original version had. She will reportedly have more luxury & mini-suites. IOW, more like the popular QM2. ;+) Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com |
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Cunard QUEEN VICTORIA going to P&O to become ARCADIA!!
Well, well, lots of changes going on here.
OK Ernie, our Mighty Royal Princess is heading to the UK. They should do a lot of work on here and create more intimate lounge spaces. That's what the British public likes When I was on the Royal, Ernie ;-) ,as a crew member in 1989 we were together in the port of Madeira with S.S. Canberra. The Brits did not like the Royal due to lack of lounges. The old Arcadia (ex Star Princess) suffered the same problem. And I even felt it too when I cruised on her in 2000. Ex Princesses were never that popular with regular P&O Cruisers as they are simply considered to be too American and glitzy. So no surprise Sea Princess is going back. Both Adonia and Oceana are not getting too good reviews right now. As far as Queen Victoria concerned. Why don't they drop this Queen name and just name here Mauretania or something. This whole Queen thing is getting way too overrated. It also might be reason that Carnival wants to use the new ship for translatlantic crossings too. Right now I can't see a Vista class doing that on a regular basis. Reint "E.k.R." wrote in message ... Could this mean that Carnival/Cunard finally figured out that a Vista Class ship is not suitable for Cunard? Maybe they are finally seeing the big picture? No word on *if* the "new" QUEEN VICTORIA will be an entirely new class of ship. We only know she will be "enhanced". Ernie ============================== Cruise operator Carnival to restructure UK capacity Monday April 5, 8:53 am ET Cruise operator Carnival to restructure UK capacity Monday April 5, 8:53 am ET LONDON, April 5 (Reuters) - The world's biggest cruise group, Carnival Corp/Plc (London:CCL.L - News; NYSE:CCL - News), said on Monday it would start operating two new luxury ships over the next three years, as it announced a restructuring of its UK capacity. The firm said the Queen Victoria ship being built at Italy's Fincantieri Marghera Yard for its Cunard Line brand would now be transferred to P&O Cruises and renamed as Arcadia. The new Arcadia is scheduled to enter service in April 2005. It said Cunard Line had ordered an enhanced Queen Victoria, also to be built by Fincantieri, and scheduled to enter service in January 2007. Carnival operates 12 cruise brands in the U.S., Europe and Australia including Carnival Cruise Lines, Holland America Line, Princess Cruises, Seabourn Cruise Line, Windstar Cruises, AIDA, Costa Cruises, Cunard Line, Ocean Village, P&O Cruises, Swan Hellenic, and P&O Cruises Australia. (reporting by Santosh Menon |
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"Ray Goldenberg" wrote in message ... Hi Ernie, The "new" Queen Victoria WILL be built on the Vista Class hull. Industry sources are reporting that she will have a larger ballroom & more alternative dining areas than the original version had. She will reportedly have more luxury & mini-suites. IOW, more like the popular QM2. ;+) This is exactly as I speculated. The "new" QV will not be a new design at all, just another rehashed Vista Class design. My guess is that P&O needed the extra tonnage more than Cunard and Carnival Corp. also realized P&O could achieve higher short term profits with the ship. I find it doubtful it had anything to do with the original QV design as I much as I would like to believe it. So now we will have a Spirit/Vista class under the following brands: Costa Holland America Carnival P&O Cunard Only a couple brands left and this basic ship design will have single-handedly infiltrated all the Carnival brands which Carnival Corp. always boasts about keeping autonomous. Who says one size doesn't fit all?? Ernie |
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"Oslo Dutch" wrote in message ... Well, well, lots of changes going on here. OK Ernie, our Mighty Royal Princess is heading to the UK. They should do a lot of work on here and create more intimate lounge spaces. That's what the British public likes When I was on the Royal, Ernie ;-) ,as a crew member in 1989 we were together in the port of Madeira with S.S. Canberra. The Brits did not like the Royal due to lack of lounges. The old Arcadia (ex Star Princess) suffered the same problem. And I even felt it too when I cruised on her in 2000. Reint Too funny Reint! No one knows about OTR better than you! I think RP has a lot of potential. If P&O were to perform a substantial refit she could end up an absolutely splendid ship. As she is now, she is quite outdated for the American market, and as you stated, too broken up enough on the interior for British tastes. Ernie - heading your way and leaving for Rome tomorrow embarking on NORWEGIAN DREAM. |
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"CupCaked" wrote in message ... Is it time already?! Bon voyage! I'd be very interested in your opinions of this ship when you return, Ernie. Karen Thanks Karen! I'm equally interested to hear all about your QM2 experience. Talk to you when I get back. Best, Ernie |
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Cunard QUEEN VICTORIA going to P&O to become ARCADIA!!
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 14:04:53 -0400, "E.k.R."
wrote: Ernie - heading your way and leaving for Rome tomorrow embarking on NORWEGIAN DREAM. Lucky Ducky. |
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