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First, I would like to thanks all for your suggestions and help.
After reviewing them all and with help of Eyewitness travel guide I manage to make my plan. So here it is: Arriving: June 14th, LAX Departure June 28th, LAX Rent Car Company - FOX Route: Los Angeles - San Diego - Death Valley - Las Vegas - San Francisco - Big Sur - Los Angeles Accommodations: LA - June 14th, 15th, 16th San Diego - 17th, 18th, 19th LV - 20th, 21st, 22nd, 23rd SF - 24th, 25th, 26th LA 1 - 27th ** Los Angeles ** Beaches - Malibu - Zuma Country Beach - Santa Monica State Beach Santa Monica - Santa Monica route - TBWA Beverly Hills, Bel Air, Westwood - Rodeo Drive - Beverly Hills Civic Center - Stars houses Hollywood - Sunset Boulevard - Hollywood boulevard - Hollywood Entertainment Museum - Mann's Chinese Theatre - Walk of fame - Guinness World of records - Ripley Believe It or Not - Wax Museum - Hollywood and Highland - Paramount Studios - Petersen Automotive Museum Downtown - Walt Disney Concert Hall - El Pueblo - Chinatown - Little Tokyo Long Beach - Queen Mary - Rancho los Alamitos - Planet Ocean - Friendship bell LA district - Mulholland drive - Hollywood sign - Universal Studios - Dodgers Stadium - Watts towers - Exposition park (Natural History Museum, California Science Center, Rose Garden) Night life Whisky A Go-Go Roxy Viper Room Sunset Boulevard ** Orange Country ** - Knott's Berry Farm - Chrystal Cathedral ** San Diego ** - Gaslamp Quarter - San Diego Zoo - See World - San Diego Wild Animal Park - Imperial beach - Chula vista - Naval base - La jolla ** South California ** Natural Parks - Joshua Three - Death Valley (Furnace Creek, Zabriskie Point, Dante's View, Badwater, Artist's palette, Stovepipe Wells) - Mojave Desert ** Las Vegas ** - Grand Canyon - Hoover dam - The Strip - Fremont street ** San Francisco ** - The 49-Mile Scenic Drive - Downtown - Transamerica Pyramid - Chinatown (Chinatown gateway, Grant Avenue) - Fisherman's Wharf (Pier 39, USS Pamporino, Alcatraz Island) - Lombard Street - Telegraph hill - Golden Gate Park (Japanese Tea Garden, Buffalo Paddock, Queen Wilhelmina Tulip Garden, Holy Virgin Cathedral) - Fort Point - Golden Gate Bridge - Marine Headlands ** Big Sur ** PLEASE COMMENT! |
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"BlackHat" wrote:
First, I would like to thanks all for your suggestions and help. After reviewing them all and with help of Eyewitness travel guide I manage to make my plan. So here it is: Arriving: June 14th, LAX Departure June 28th, LAX snip itinerrary PLEASE COMMENT! -------------------------- That's a very long list, more than I would try to do in 2 weeks. I'm concerned that you will run yourself ragged trying to do it all. However, it is better to have an idea of things that interest you and then cut out lower priority items, than it is to sit in a hotel wondering what to do. So, I'd start by plotting those want-to items on a map, circle 2 - 3 must-do items for each day. That way, items of lower priority will be there, if you have time & not too tired. You'll need to take time out to eat, remember. Lastly, Vegas to SF is a major day long drive, and I'd break it up with visits to Sequoia or Yosemite Nat'l. Parks, rather than try to drive it in one day. But I'm into natural landmarks, more than city or cultural stuff. |
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Arriving: June 14th, LAX Departure June 28th, LAX Looks like you've done a lot of planning, and you've got a lot of nice places on that list. But you're trying to do too much. For example, you say you'll be in San Diego on the 19th and Las Vegas on the 20th, but between them you'll see Joshua Tree, Death Valley, and the Mojave Desert. This is impossible. Just driving directly from SD to LV is a 5-hour drive; Death Valley is an additional 4 or so hours out of your way (round trip), plus you're going to want to spend time at the parks themselves. Death Valley (Furnace Creek, Zabriskie Point, Dante's View, Badwater, Artist's palette, Stovepipe Wells) On my last visit to Las Vegas we drove to Death Valley and saw almost all those places. We left Vegas early morning and arrived back at Vegas in the evening. It was wonderful, but you should allow 1 full day for this. James |
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On May 23, 3:17*am, "BlackHat" wrote:
First, I would like to thanks all for your suggestions and help. After reviewing them all and with help of Eyewitness travel guide I manage to make my plan. So here it is: Arriving: June 14th, LAX Departure June 28th, LAX Rent Car Company - FOX Route: Los Angeles - San Diego - Death Valley - Las Vegas - San Francisco - Big Sur - Los Angeles Accommodations: LA - June 14th, 15th, 16th San Diego - 17th, 18th, 19th LV - 20th, 21st, 22nd, 23rd SF - 24th, 25th, 26th LA 1 - 27th Santa Monica - Santa Monica route - TBWA Huh? Beverly Hills, Bel Air, Westwood - Rodeo Drive - Beverly Hills Civic Center - Stars houses BH civic center? I'd skip the stars houses. ** South California ** Natural Parks - Joshua Three - Death Valley (Furnace Creek, Zabriskie Point, Dante's View, Badwater, Artist's palette, Stovepipe Wells) - Mojave Desert That alone will take 3 days. ** Las Vegas ** - Grand Canyon - Hoover dam - The Strip - Fremont street ** San Francisco ** - Transamerica Pyramid It's just an office building. |
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On Fri, 23 May 2008 08:40:42 -0700 (PDT), PeterL
wrote: On May 23, 3:17*am, "BlackHat" wrote: First, I would like to thanks all for your suggestions and help. After reviewing them all and with help of Eyewitness travel guide I manage to make my plan. [...] - Transamerica Pyramid It's just an office building. Is the 28th floor still open to the public as an observation area? If not, all he can do is look at it from the outside. -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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LV - 20th, 21st, 22nd, 23rd ... ** Las Vegas ** - Grand Canyon - Hoover dam - The Strip - Fremont street To follow up on my previous post, I think you're doing way too much, but here's what I'd suggest for your 4 nights in Vegas: 20th -- This is a travel day and you'll be arriving in Vegas in the evening. You could drive down the Strip if you have the time; it's lit up all night because the casinos never close. But with your travel schedule I think you'll probably be going straight to bed. 21st -- See the hotel/casinos on The Strip. The Strip is several miles long and time is short, so you won't have time to walk around casually and visit each casino (and it'll probably be extremely hot anyway). You'll you'll want to pick which casinos interest you the most and use public transit to get around quickly. Some of the most popular ones to visit are the Bellagio, Venetian, Luxor, and Caesar's Palace, to name a few, but there are many more and each person has their own favorites, so you'll want to do a little research before going. If time permits you could visit Freemont Street (the old casinos) in the evening, but I'll bet you won't have time. 22nd -- You had planned to visit Death Valley on your way to Vegas, but I don't think you'll have time, so you could do it today. Leave early morning and drive to Death Valley (roughly 2.5 hours each way); return early evening. If you've got any energy left you could visit the Strip for a few more hours before bed. 23rd -- Leave early morning (like 6 am) and drive to the south rim of the Grand Canyon. Arrive around lunchtime and spend the afternoon there. Go to the visitor's center, stop at several overlooks, and walk a short distance down into the canyon on the Bright Angel Trail. Leave around 6:00 and get back to your Vegas hotel around midnight. NOTE: I've done this before and am telling you that this will be an exhausting day, and it's a shame to only visit for a few hours (you should ideally spend at least 2 days at the Canyon), but it's better than nothing. My schedule leaves out Hoover Dam, which is a shame because I highly recommend visiting it, but I just don't think it'll fit into your schedule unless you skip either the Grand Canyon or Death Valley. I also don't think you'll have time for Freemont Street, but I don't regard that as a big deal. Freemont Street is interesting but most tourists in Vegas concentrate on The Strip. James |
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interesting, hatunen
"Hatunen" a écrit dans le message de ... On Fri, 23 May 2008 08:40:42 -0700 (PDT), PeterL wrote: On May 23, 3:17 am, "BlackHat" wrote: First, I would like to thanks all for your suggestions and help. After reviewing them all and with help of Eyewitness travel guide I manage to make my plan. [...] - Transamerica Pyramid It's just an office building. Is the 28th floor still open to the public as an observation area? If not, all he can do is look at it from the outside. -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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- Transamerica Pyramid Is the 28th floor still open to the public as an observation area? If not, all he can do is look at it from the outside. Not anymore, unless you know somebody. Since 2001 (presumably after 9/11) they've limited access to the building in general, beyond the first-floor lobby, to "tenants and their approved guests": http://www.thepyramidcenter.com/tourism/faq.htm (But the view from below, amid the support legs, is memorable in its own way. ("And that concludes the Transamerica Pyramid module of Statics 101. Next year, in Dynamics...") He can look down on it and other things over dinner or just drinks from the Carnelian Room, the rather spendy restaurant in the BoA Building (shorter building but higher on a hill): http://carnelianroom.com/ ....and of course there's the Banker's Heart sculpture down near sidewalk level. Other stuff about this overstuffed itinerary: He'll see Dodger Stadium empty, as the team is on a long road trip, and the Padres will be a near miss: http://sandiego.padres.mlb.com/sched...=sd&m=6&y=2008 but the Anaheim Angels are in town during one of the LA periods: http://mlb.mlb.com/schedule/index.js...ana&m=6&y=2008 and although he'll also miss the San Francisco Giants, a quick BART ride gets him to an Oakland A's game: http://mlb.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=oak Death Valley (the national monument, not the Giants' place in the standings in this lamentable season) and the other low-desert locales mentioned... umm... pretty much all rental cars are air conditioned, but if the need arises to save some of this itinerary for the next trip, I'd save that for a future trip -- preferably late winter when, aside from coolness, there's some chance of catching wildflower season after the rains come. A drive up the Coast Highway, or back from Vegas via the east side of the Sierra, would be cooler scenic alternatives. Just a thought. --Joe |
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Impossible to do in two weeks.
Don "BlackHat" wrote in message ... First, I would like to thanks all for your suggestions and help. After reviewing them all and with help of Eyewitness travel guide I manage to make my plan. So here it is: Arriving: June 14th, LAX Departure June 28th, LAX Rent Car Company - FOX Route: Los Angeles - San Diego - Death Valley - Las Vegas - San Francisco - Big Sur - Los Angeles Accommodations: LA - June 14th, 15th, 16th San Diego - 17th, 18th, 19th LV - 20th, 21st, 22nd, 23rd SF - 24th, 25th, 26th LA 1 - 27th ** Los Angeles ** Beaches - Malibu - Zuma Country Beach - Santa Monica State Beach Santa Monica - Santa Monica route - TBWA Beverly Hills, Bel Air, Westwood - Rodeo Drive - Beverly Hills Civic Center - Stars houses Hollywood - Sunset Boulevard - Hollywood boulevard - Hollywood Entertainment Museum - Mann's Chinese Theatre - Walk of fame - Guinness World of records - Ripley Believe It or Not - Wax Museum - Hollywood and Highland - Paramount Studios - Petersen Automotive Museum Downtown - Walt Disney Concert Hall - El Pueblo - Chinatown - Little Tokyo Long Beach - Queen Mary - Rancho los Alamitos - Planet Ocean - Friendship bell LA district - Mulholland drive - Hollywood sign - Universal Studios - Dodgers Stadium - Watts towers - Exposition park (Natural History Museum, California Science Center, Rose Garden) Night life Whisky A Go-Go Roxy Viper Room Sunset Boulevard ** Orange Country ** - Knott's Berry Farm - Chrystal Cathedral ** San Diego ** - Gaslamp Quarter - San Diego Zoo - See World - San Diego Wild Animal Park - Imperial beach - Chula vista - Naval base - La jolla ** South California ** Natural Parks - Joshua Three - Death Valley (Furnace Creek, Zabriskie Point, Dante's View, Badwater, Artist's palette, Stovepipe Wells) - Mojave Desert ** Las Vegas ** - Grand Canyon - Hoover dam - The Strip - Fremont street ** San Francisco ** - The 49-Mile Scenic Drive - Downtown - Transamerica Pyramid - Chinatown (Chinatown gateway, Grant Avenue) - Fisherman's Wharf (Pier 39, USS Pamporino, Alcatraz Island) - Lombard Street - Telegraph hill - Golden Gate Park (Japanese Tea Garden, Buffalo Paddock, Queen Wilhelmina Tulip Garden, Holy Virgin Cathedral) - Fort Point - Golden Gate Bridge - Marine Headlands ** Big Sur ** PLEASE COMMENT! |
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"Shawn Hirn" wrote in message ... In article , "BlackHat" wrote: First, I would like to thanks all for your suggestions and help. After reviewing them all and with help of Eyewitness travel guide I manage to make my plan. Its your vacation, of course, but your itinerary sounds like a marathon more than a vacation. Did you include any time to sleep, eat, breath, and drive from one place to the next? Also, if I were you, I would fly between San Fran and Las Vegas; the drive is dreadfully boring and long. Well, as per the drive between San Francisco and Las Vegas being "dreadfully boring and long" - it depends. If one is simply to drive as quickly and as directly as possible, yes. But if one takes the time to kind of saunder here and there, mosey along with overnight stops hither and yon, the trip can be rather interesting. A quick, short (but no means complete) list of things to see and places to visit between these two cities - Castle Air Museum, California State Mining and Mineral Museum, Yosemite, Mono Lake, Bodie, Hot Creek, Devil's Postpile, Rainbow Falls, Bristlecone pines, Alabama Hills, Pinnacles National Natural Landmark, Eureka Dunes, Darwin Falls, Alabama Hills, Manzanar, Fossil Falls. |
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