Substandard Italian workmanship renders first 787s unsafe

Boeing has discovered that the Italian firm to which it subcontracted
construction of tail assemblies isn't doing the work correctly, putting the 23
aircraft it has already built at risk:

http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/p...-found/97983/1

No surprise here. When you allow Third World companies to built vital parts to
your airplane, you should take for granted that there will be potentially
dangerous defects. That's the consequence of trying to be politically correct.

In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
Boeing has discovered that the Italian firm to which it subcontracted
construction of tail assemblies isn't doing the work correctly, putting the 23
aircraft it has already built at risk:

http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/p...-found/97983/1

No surprise here. When you allow Third World companies to built vital parts to
your airplane, you should take for granted that there will be potentially
dangerous defects. That's the consequence of trying to be politically correct.

Italy isn't concidered a third world country by anyone but you.


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Jim Pennino

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Boeing has discovered that the Italian firm to which it subcontracted
construction of tail assemblies isn't doing the work correctly, putting
the 23
aircraft it has already built at risk:

http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/p...-found/97983/1

No surprise here. When you allow Third World companies to built vital
parts to
your airplane, you should take for granted that there will be potentially
dangerous defects. That's the consequence of trying to be politically
correct.

Lots of people would consider that Italian technology is at least as good as
anything emanating from Chicago.
--
JohnT

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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Boeing has discovered that the Italian firm to which it subcontracted
construction of tail assemblies isn't doing the work correctly, putting
the 23
aircraft it has already built at risk:

http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/p...-found/97983/1

No surprise here. When you allow Third World companies to built vital
parts to
your airplane, you should take for granted that there will be potentially
dangerous defects. That's the consequence of trying to be politically
correct.

Lots of people would consider that Italian technology is at least as good
as anything emanating from Chicago.

And that is in which world?

JohnT writes:

Lots of people would consider that Italian technology is at least as good as
anything emanating from Chicago.

Then Boeing must have picked the wrong Italian partner. And this appears to be
an issue with workmanship, not technology or design. The tails were simply not
put together correctly, implying unqualified, careless, or lazy workers.

If I recall correctly, this isn't the first time I've read about an Italian
company screwing things up.

There are a number of classic stereotypes concerning European cultures, and
unfortunately many of them have a strong basis in fact.

I wonder why Boeing put anything in Italy. It's not like the Italians have any
strong airlines that would be buying dozens of 787s, and if all Boeing cared
about was price, they could find cheaper suppliers in other countries.

On Jun 26, 9:10*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Boeing has discovered that the Italian firm to which it subcontracted
construction of tail assemblies isn't doing the work correctly, putting the 23
aircraft it has already built at risk:

http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/p...halts-787-test...

No surprise here. When you allow Third World companies to built vital parts to
your airplane, you should take for granted that there will be potentially
dangerous defects. That's the consequence of trying to be politically correct.

Where in the article does it say the Italian parts are substandard? As
I read it it's an assembly problem (shimming and bolt torque) which
takes place in the US...

Cheers

Flaps_50! writes:

Where in the article does it say the Italian parts are substandard? As
I read it it's an assembly problem (shimming and bolt torque) which
takes place in the US...

Yes. The defects are in the assembly, not the hardware itself (as I understood
the article). Thus, unqualified or careless workers, inadequate QC, etc.,
which, unfortunately, is exactly what I'd expect from an average Italian
supplier.

On Jun 25, 6:21*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Flaps_50! writes:
Where in the article does it say the Italian parts are substandard? As
I read it it's an assembly problem (shimming and bolt torque) which
takes place in the US...

Yes. The defects are in the assembly, not the hardware itself (as I understood
the article). Thus, unqualified or careless workers, inadequate QC, etc.,
which, unfortunately, is exactly what I'd expect from an average Italian
supplier.

The article says nothing about defects in the unit assembled in Italy.
It does say the issue is associated with how it had been attached,
torqued, and shimmed to the correct position when it had been attached
to the 'next assembly up'.

On Jun 26, 10:19*am, "Flaps_50!" wrote:

Where in the article does it say the Italian parts are substandard? As
I read it it's an assembly problem (shimming and bolt torque) which
takes place in the US...

When I saw the header I had to look and once again mixedup is scamming
the group with his hatred of aviation and those associated with it..

a writes:

The article says nothing about defects in the unit assembled in Italy.
It does say the issue is associated with how it had been attached,
torqued, and shimmed to the correct position when it had been attached
to the 'next assembly up'.

Incorrect assembly is a defect.