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Am I the only one who always meets everyone who paid a fraction of the
price for a last minute booking? Just about every cruise I am on, someone tells us that they booked the week before the cruise and got: *a 50% discount *upgrade to a balcony or Suite from an inside *on board credit of a $100 or more Or a combination of the above. Usually these people are not big time repeat passengers of the cruise line they booked or know much about cruises. Sometimes these braggers are first timer's and they think that everyone got the same deal. They all say they found the deal on the internet, but don't remember the site. On Florida sailings I am also bombarded by passengers who live up North asking me if locals just go to the port on the sailing day, and play "let's make a deal". Perhaps I am missing the boat, as sailings that are half empty two week before departure are always full when the ship leaves the port. Where are all these deals? and how long before the cruise are they available. It would make sense for the highest level of loyalty club member retirees living near a port to be notified shortly before the cruise for a significant discount, but when we were offered a free cruise for this month we already had another cruise booked and paid for. Gadget |
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Gadget World wrote:
Am I the only one who always meets everyone who paid a fraction of the price for a last minute booking? Just about every cruise I am on, someone tells us that they booked the week before the cruise and got: *a 50% discount *upgrade to a balcony or Suite from an inside *on board credit of a $100 or more Or a combination of the above. Usually these people are not big time repeat passengers of the cruise line they booked or know much about cruises. Sometimes these braggers are first timer's and they think that everyone got the same deal. They all say they found the deal on the internet, but don't remember the site. On Florida sailings I am also bombarded by passengers who live up North asking me if locals just go to the port on the sailing day, and play "let's make a deal". Perhaps I am missing the boat, as sailings that are half empty two week before departure are always full when the ship leaves the port. Where are all these deals? and how long before the cruise are they available. It would make sense for the highest level of loyalty club member retirees living near a port to be notified shortly before the cruise for a significant discount, but when we were offered a free cruise for this month we already had another cruise booked and paid for. Gadget There has been a lot of this... especially this Fall. Carnival has what they call "Pack and Go" fares that change weekly for last minute purchases but I am seeing fewer of them going into January than there were in December which is traditionally a very slow month. Princess makes the best use of Past Passenger data bases (IMO) when it comes to offering good last minute deals. There was one last week for a 7 night Southern Caribbean cruise for $299 inside. Problem is that the ad came out 5 days before sail date and airfare to SJU was either non-existent or incredibly expensive. (FWIW - that was the lowest 7 night fare I have seen this year) Cruise lines use a "yield management" software system that makes sure that the ships go out full. They do that by adjusting prices based on how many cabins are left and how many days before sailing there are. There really isn't anything as a ship being only "half full" a few weeks before sail date. Pricing can change instantly based on sales. I have had times when I booked a cabin in the morning at one fare and by the afternoon, that fare had gone up. Last week I booked an Alaska cruise and three days later, that fare went down $150 pp (I did get the new lower fare for the customer). You just never know. One other thought..... a couple of the cruise lines (Royal Caribbean and Celebrity) are now trying a model where they accept less than 100% capacity rather than lower fares at the last minute. This is an off-shoot of their experience with the Solstice and the Oasis of the Seas. It seems to be working so far as htey are holding their per-diems higher than what used to be considered normal. It will take a few quarters to see if this has an effect on the bottom line. There is also an old saying about pricing.... "In any conversation on a ship about cruise fares, the person with the lowest fare is always the person who speaks last." vbg -- George Leppla Countryside Travel http://www.CruiseMaster.com Blog http://cruisemaster.typepad.com/my_weblog/ Facebook http://www.facebook.com/CruiseMaster |
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Thanks George,
But where do these people book the low fares when they are avilable? Gadget |
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"George Leppla" wrote in message ... Not that I would ever do it, but I also know some folk who have a ball on a ship's elevator discussing with a "friend," just how cheaply they got their cabin. "Yup, we got the same deal that you did, John. They called us 3 weeks ago and offered the balcony cabin for $175 per person for the 7-day. At that price, we thought it would be cheaper going on the ZZZ this week than staying home and eating at Denny's." Another favorite is, "When Princess called 2 days before we left, I almost didn't take the phone call I was so worried that the cruise had been cancelled. Instead, they called to tell us about the price reduction and offered the $500 per cabin credit or a free cruise." -- Nonny ELOQUIDIOT (n) A highly educated, sophisticated, and articulate person who has absolutely no clue concerning what they are talking about. The person is typically a media commentator or politician. |
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Tourism World wrote:
Thanks George, But where do these people book the low fares when they are avilable? All travel agents have access to these last minute rates (when they are available). The idea is to sell the cabins as quickly as possible... so you make them available to as many outlets as possible. -- George Leppla Countryside Travel http://www.CruiseMaster.com Blog http://cruisemaster.typepad.com/my_weblog/ Facebook http://www.facebook.com/CruiseMaster |
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Nonny wrote:
"George Leppla" wrote in message ... Not that I would ever do it, but I also know some folk who have a ball on a ship's elevator discussing with a "friend," just how cheaply they got their cabin. "Yup, we got the same deal that you did, John. They called us 3 weeks ago and offered the balcony cabin for $175 per person for the 7-day. At that price, we thought it would be cheaper going on the ZZZ this week than staying home and eating at Denny's." Another favorite is, "When Princess called 2 days before we left, I almost didn't take the phone call I was so worried that the cruise had been cancelled. Instead, they called to tell us about the price reduction and offered the $500 per cabin credit or a free cruise." Our June cruise to Alaska just went down almost $700 for the 2 of us. My travel agent told me to watch the price on the Princess web site and if I notice a reduction, let her know. She called Princess and our price went down even more than the price on the web site. Would the same thing happen if there was a last minute reduction, or is that a whole other thing? Marcia |
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Marcia R. wrote:
Nonny wrote: "George Leppla" wrote in message ... Not that I would ever do it, but I also know some folk who have a ball on a ship's elevator discussing with a "friend," just how cheaply they got their cabin. "Yup, we got the same deal that you did, John. They called us 3 weeks ago and offered the balcony cabin for $175 per person for the 7-day. At that price, we thought it would be cheaper going on the ZZZ this week than staying home and eating at Denny's." Another favorite is, "When Princess called 2 days before we left, I almost didn't take the phone call I was so worried that the cruise had been cancelled. Instead, they called to tell us about the price reduction and offered the $500 per cabin credit or a free cruise." Our June cruise to Alaska just went down almost $700 for the 2 of us. My travel agent told me to watch the price on the Princess web site and if I notice a reduction, let her know. She called Princess and our price went down even more than the price on the web site. Would the same thing happen if there was a last minute reduction, or is that a whole other thing? We had a group on Princess to Alaska last May and some cabins went down $1000. It does happen. Some of the last minute fares can be applied to established bookings. Many times, the promoted fare will say "good for new, individual bookings only" so there is no one rule that will cover all cases. Your best tool in these cases is a good travel agent... but you already found that out! -- George Leppla Countryside Travel http://www.CruiseMaster.com Blog http://cruisemaster.typepad.com/my_weblog/ Facebook http://www.facebook.com/CruiseMaster |
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"Gadget World" wrote in message ... Am I the only one who always meets everyone who paid a fraction of the price for a last minute booking? I just got off my 48th cruise and have never asked anyone how much they paid for their cruise. 1. It's none of my business 2. They probably wouldn't tell me the truth if I did. Those who do discuss it amongst themselves usually say that they got the best deal anyway. --Jean |
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Jean O'Boyle wrote: "Gadget World" wrote in message ... Am I the only one who always meets everyone who paid a fraction of the price for a last minute booking? I just got off my 48th cruise and have never asked anyone how much they paid for their cruise. 1. It's none of my business 2. They probably wouldn't tell me the truth if I did. Those who do discuss it amongst themselves usually say that they got the best deal anyway. Welcome home Jean, hope you and the Vikings had a marvoulous cruise!! I agree with you on this and never discuss what I pay for a cruise with anyone. On the rare occasion I am asked, I just say I don't remember.lol sue |
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In article , George Leppla
wrote: There is also an old saying about pricing.... "In any conversation on a ship about cruise fares, the person with the lowest fare is always the person who speaks last." vbg Often people who tell you about the low fare don't include the taxes. When people ask me what I paid and brag about a great last minute deal I don't say anything about what I paid but when they have insisted on telling me what their deal was it was either the same fare or more than I paid. -- Charles |
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