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Visa reqts for US
In 1997, during an argument with my then boyfriend I was arrested for ABH.
When this went to court, the case was dismissed due to extenuating circumstances (I was defending ,myself). Therefore I have no criminal record. I haven't even had a parking offence However, I have to go to the US on company business and it appears I am no longer able to travel under the Visa Waiver Scheme because I have been arrested, regardless of the outcome of the case. This now means I am going to have to admit this to my employers (and it also means I am going to have to tell them I cannot do the business trip since there is no way of getting a visa in the time scale). I also now have to explain the whole sorry mess to my husband. I have no paperwork relating to the case, - I can't even remember what court it was in- never thinking I'd need it so now I have to apparently contact New Scotland yard to try to find some record. Exactly how, or how long this will take, I have yet to find out Surely this is an offence against Civil Liberties? If I'd been found guilty then maybe I could have understood it but in these circumstance this seems totally unfair, especially as I've previously travelled to the US many times without problems. -- "Support bacteria, they're the only culture some people have |
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Surely this is an offence against Civil Liberties? If I'd been found
guilty then maybe I could have understood it but in these circumstance this seems totally unfair, especially as I've previously travelled to the US many times without problems. That is the US requirement and always has been. AFAIK you have always had to declare this so you may have problems explaining to the US Imigration service why you did not do so before. You need to obtain a copy of your file on the Police National Computer. You can get an application form at any police station. |
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Surely this is an offence against Civil Liberties? If I'd been found
guilty then maybe I could have understood it but in these circumstance this seems totally unfair, especially as I've previously travelled to the US many times without problems. That is the US requirement and always has been. AFAIK you have always had to declare this so you may have problems explaining to the US Imigration service why you did not do so before. You need to obtain a copy of your file on the Police National Computer. You can get an application form at any police station. |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:25:51 +0100, "Peter Crosland"
wrote: Surely this is an offence against Civil Liberties? If I'd been found guilty then maybe I could have understood it but in these circumstance this seems totally unfair, especially as I've previously travelled to the US many times without problems. That is the US requirement and always has been. AFAIK you have always had to declare this so you may have problems explaining to the US Imigration service why you did not do so before. You need to obtain a copy of your file on the Police National Computer. You can get an application form at any police station. Since the OP managed to travel to the US before without any problems I would suggest that she keep quiet about the arrest. The chance of the US authorities finding out about the arrest are pretty much nil unless someone tells them. |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:25:51 +0100, "Peter Crosland"
wrote: Surely this is an offence against Civil Liberties? If I'd been found guilty then maybe I could have understood it but in these circumstance this seems totally unfair, especially as I've previously travelled to the US many times without problems. That is the US requirement and always has been. AFAIK you have always had to declare this so you may have problems explaining to the US Imigration service why you did not do so before. You need to obtain a copy of your file on the Police National Computer. You can get an application form at any police station. Since the OP managed to travel to the US before without any problems I would suggest that she keep quiet about the arrest. The chance of the US authorities finding out about the arrest are pretty much nil unless someone tells them. |
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IanAl wrote:
Since the OP managed to travel to the US before without any problems I would suggest that she keep quiet about the arrest. The chance of the US authorities finding out about the arrest are pretty much nil unless someone tells them. The sticky bit in those situations is that if anything does happen when she's over there, not having declared things (or ticking 'No' in the 'I intend to kill the president' box) gives them reason to throw the book at her. -- Ken Tough |
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IanAl wrote:
Since the OP managed to travel to the US before without any problems I would suggest that she keep quiet about the arrest. The chance of the US authorities finding out about the arrest are pretty much nil unless someone tells them. The sticky bit in those situations is that if anything does happen when she's over there, not having declared things (or ticking 'No' in the 'I intend to kill the president' box) gives them reason to throw the book at her. -- Ken Tough |
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sniper wrote:
I have no paperwork relating to the case, - I can't even remember what court it was in- never thinking I'd need it so now I have to apparently contact New Scotland yard to try to find some record. Exactly how, or how long this will take, I have yet to find out You have looked here, I suppose: http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_web.../add_crime.htm Surely this is an offence against Civil Liberties? If I'd been found guilty then maybe I could have understood it but in these circumstance this seems totally unfair, especially as I've previously travelled to the US many times without problems. It looks like you're over a bit of a barrel. You're right, it is a nasty take on civil liberties. It's easy for me to say, but to fight back you should come clean. You didn't do anything wrong, and to imply that arrest = guilt is what a police state what do. A person ought to be able to declare a pointless/incorrect arrest without it being seen negative, otherwise it's just adding fuel to their fire. They could always deny your visa and there's not much you can do about it after that point, but otherwise you're being denied entry implicitly for no fault on your part. As another poster writes, they're unlikely to connect that arrest to you, but you technically ought to declare it. Why not discuss it with your employer, and see what they advise you to do. At least then it's out in the open, and any delays can be explained and maybe they can help adjust schedules to fit? -- Ken Tough |
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sniper wrote:
I have no paperwork relating to the case, - I can't even remember what court it was in- never thinking I'd need it so now I have to apparently contact New Scotland yard to try to find some record. Exactly how, or how long this will take, I have yet to find out You have looked here, I suppose: http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_web.../add_crime.htm Surely this is an offence against Civil Liberties? If I'd been found guilty then maybe I could have understood it but in these circumstance this seems totally unfair, especially as I've previously travelled to the US many times without problems. It looks like you're over a bit of a barrel. You're right, it is a nasty take on civil liberties. It's easy for me to say, but to fight back you should come clean. You didn't do anything wrong, and to imply that arrest = guilt is what a police state what do. A person ought to be able to declare a pointless/incorrect arrest without it being seen negative, otherwise it's just adding fuel to their fire. They could always deny your visa and there's not much you can do about it after that point, but otherwise you're being denied entry implicitly for no fault on your part. As another poster writes, they're unlikely to connect that arrest to you, but you technically ought to declare it. Why not discuss it with your employer, and see what they advise you to do. At least then it's out in the open, and any delays can be explained and maybe they can help adjust schedules to fit? -- Ken Tough |
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"IanAl" wrote in message news On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:25:51 +0100, "Peter Crosland" wrote: Surely this is an offence against Civil Liberties? If I'd been found guilty then maybe I could have understood it but in these circumstance this seems totally unfair, especially as I've previously travelled to the US many times without problems. That is the US requirement and always has been. AFAIK you have always had to declare this so you may have problems explaining to the US Imigration service why you did not do so before. You need to obtain a copy of your file on the Police National Computer. You can get an application form at any police station. Since the OP managed to travel to the US before without any problems I would suggest that she keep quiet about the arrest. The chance of the US authorities finding out about the arrest are pretty much nil unless someone tells them. To be honest that was what I was going to do but as from October 26, you have to be fingerprinted going in to the US and I'm afraid it will show up then (Email sent from laptop hence different id) |
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