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TOliver wrote:

My morning paper under an AP tag promised two to the gurney in Fresno County
where 20 have pooped out, with 81 deaths statewide attributable to the heat.

Do you think the number in Fresno County might be attributable to a
different method for measuring the people that died from the heat.
There are higher population densities in similar heat conditions in
other parts of the state.

On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:00:11 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

Hatunen writes:

Here in Tucson it is not unusual to have temps of, say, 110F and
a relative humidity of maybe 4%.

Evaporative cooling must be pretty popular in Tucson,

It used to be. Not so good during monsoon season though. Nowadays
we tend to have refrigeration AC. It seems to be a tossup as to
which is more environmentally friendly in the desert, what with
all the water use by evap boxes. I have refrigeration now,
although the original 13 years I had evap. They say once you have
refrig you don't want to go back to evap, and people who have
dual systems tend to not use the evap.

although I
recall that the city had water problems in the days when it held the
record as the world's largest city entirely dependent on groundwater.
But you get CAP water or something now, don't you?

Yes. Unfortunately. Awful tasting stuff.

The water problems come from the heavy agricultural use of
groundwater, which took well over 80% of the available well
water. The Central Arizona Project wouldn't have been needed if
the farmers around Phoenix hadn't clamored for it. Ironically,
the farms around Phoenix are now disappearing under subdivisions.

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"mrtravel" wrote...
TOliver wrote:

My morning paper under an AP tag promised two to the gurney in Fresno
County where 20 have pooped out, with 81 deaths statewide attributable to
the heat.

Do you think the number in Fresno County might be attributable to a
different method for measuring the people that died from the heat.
There are higher population densities in similar heat conditions in other
parts of the state.


The numbers could reveal several tidbits in trivia.....

The two to the gurney might not indicate as much a rise in deaths asa
shortage of gurneys (Named for its inventor, Mr. Gurney?)
(That matches with your Fresno County=Poor County)

My first memory of Fresno, the Late Summer of 1953 or so, raisins drying
upon canvas tarps laid out on side streets....

TMO

The Reid writes:

so you think all the winter deaths are not weather related, sigh.

There are very few cold-related deaths in winter.

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mrtravel writes:

But they still have seasons, despite the water going down the drain with
the spin in the opposite direction.

The hemisphere has no effect on the direction in which water spins
when going down the drain.

So, if you think that deaths due to weather happen more due to weather
in the summer. Does it matter if the location is in the northern or
southern hemisphere?

What matters is heat.

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Keith Willshaw writes:

The Merck Manual of Geriatrics reports that "in the USA, about 75,000
'excess winter deaths' occur among the elderly, including deaths from
hypothermia and deaths associated with many other winter risks, such as
influenza and pneumonia. Among identified cases of hypothermia, the
mortality rate is 50%. Of persons with hypothermia, those over 75 years are
five times more likely to die than those under 75 years."

What are the exact numbers for hypothermia?

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On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:23:01 +0800, Miguel Cruz
wrote:

Mxsmanic wrote:
Miguel Cruz writes:
This isn't what actually happens. I am sitting in front of the
computer with one fan and my skin is dry to the touch. The humidity
today is in the high 80s.

Your skin is never dry. You're just losing water to evaporation
before you notice it accumulating on your skin.

Thanks, perfesser. I said it was "dry to the touch." You claimed I'd be
dripping with sweat.

Mixi very often misreads what someone says, and then complains about
them making personal attacks on him.
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Hatunen writes:

They say once you have
refrig you don't want to go back to evap, and people who have
dual systems tend to not use the evap.

Real air conditioning is more flexible than mere evaporative cooling,
as the name implies, and while A/C can always provide a high level of
comfort under any weather conditions, evaporative cooling cannot.

Yes. Unfortunately. Awful tasting stuff.

Why does it taste so bad? What's in it?

The water problems come from the heavy agricultural use of
groundwater, which took well over 80% of the available well
water. The Central Arizona Project wouldn't have been needed if
the farmers around Phoenix hadn't clamored for it. Ironically,
the farms around Phoenix are now disappearing under subdivisions.

That should be good for the water supply, since residential areas
require far less water than farmland.

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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Keith Willshaw writes:

The Merck Manual of Geriatrics reports that "in the USA, about 75,000
'excess winter deaths' occur among the elderly, including deaths from
hypothermia and deaths associated with many other winter risks, such as
influenza and pneumonia. Among identified cases of hypothermia, the
mortality rate is 50%. Of persons with hypothermia, those over 75 years
are
five times more likely to die than those under 75 years."

What are the exact numbers for hypothermia?


You didnt specify hypothermia

Now how about addressing the rest of the post

Keith

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Hatunen writes:

They say once you have
refrig you don't want to go back to evap, and people who have
dual systems tend to not use the evap.

Real air conditioning is more flexible than mere evaporative cooling,
as the name implies, and while A/C can always provide a high level of
comfort under any weather conditions, evaporative cooling cannot.

Yes. Unfortunately. Awful tasting stuff.

Why does it taste so bad? What's in it?

The water problems come from the heavy agricultural use of
groundwater, which took well over 80% of the available well
water. The Central Arizona Project wouldn't have been needed if
the farmers around Phoenix hadn't clamored for it. Ironically,
the farms around Phoenix are now disappearing under subdivisions.

That should be good for the water supply, since residential areas
require far less water than farmland.


That rather depends on what is being farmed but sounds flat wrong
to me. Residential districts use LARGE amounts of water. Plants
dont take showers and flush the loo several times a day.

Keith