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  #401  
Old July 28th, 2006, 10:15 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 07:04:47 +0200, Mxsmanic
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mrtravel writes:

Does it differ in the southern part of the planet?


Yes, since the seasons are reversed.


Mr Travel, you set yourself up for that one!
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  #402  
Old July 28th, 2006, 10:30 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 21:51:56 +0200, Mxsmanic
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mrtravel writes:


So, if you think that deaths due to weather happen more due to weather
in the summer. Does it matter if the location is in the northern or
southern hemisphere?


What matters is heat.


What matters is education. Educated people don't die from heat.
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Old July 28th, 2006, 10:31 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 21:52:57 +0200, Mxsmanic
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Keith Willshaw writes:

The Merck Manual of Geriatrics reports that "in the USA, about 75,000
'excess winter deaths' occur among the elderly, including deaths from
hypothermia and deaths associated with many other winter risks, such as
influenza and pneumonia. Among identified cases of hypothermia, the
mortality rate is 50%. Of persons with hypothermia, those over 75 years are
five times more likely to die than those under 75 years."


What are the exact numbers for hypothermia?


Why are exact numbers important? It's the deaths that count.
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Old July 28th, 2006, 11:36 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 21:58:09 +0200, Mxsmanic
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Hatunen writes:


Mxsmanic wrote:

But you get CAP water or something now, don't you?


Yes. Unfortunately. Awful tasting stuff.


Why does it taste so bad? What's in it?


The Colorado River.


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Old July 28th, 2006, 11:38 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 21:13:32 +0100, "Keith Willshaw"
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Hatunen writes:

They say once you have
refrig you don't want to go back to evap, and people who have
dual systems tend to not use the evap.


Real air conditioning is more flexible than mere evaporative cooling,
as the name implies, and while A/C can always provide a high level of
comfort under any weather conditions, evaporative cooling cannot.

Yes. Unfortunately. Awful tasting stuff.


Why does it taste so bad? What's in it?

The water problems come from the heavy agricultural use of
groundwater, which took well over 80% of the available well
water. The Central Arizona Project wouldn't have been needed if
the farmers around Phoenix hadn't clamored for it. Ironically,
the farms around Phoenix are now disappearing under subdivisions.


That should be good for the water supply, since residential areas
require far less water than farmland.


That rather depends on what is being farmed but sounds flat wrong
to me. Residential districts use LARGE amounts of water. Plants
dont take showers and flush the loo several times a day.


Most home dodn't flood their lawns four feet deep over a growing
season either but the farms do.

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Old July 28th, 2006, 11:41 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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Dave Frightens Me wrote:

On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 07:04:47 +0200, Mxsmanic
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mrtravel writes:


Does it differ in the southern part of the planet?


Yes, since the seasons are reversed.



Mr Travel, you set yourself up for that one!


Not really... If it is seasonable in the northern hemisphere, why
wouldn't it depend on the season in the soutern one?
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Old July 29th, 2006, 12:11 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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"Hatunen" wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 21:13:32 +0100, "Keith Willshaw"
wrote:


"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
. ..
Hatunen writes:

They say once you have
refrig you don't want to go back to evap, and people who have
dual systems tend to not use the evap.

Real air conditioning is more flexible than mere evaporative cooling,
as the name implies, and while A/C can always provide a high level of
comfort under any weather conditions, evaporative cooling cannot.

Yes. Unfortunately. Awful tasting stuff.

Why does it taste so bad? What's in it?

The water problems come from the heavy agricultural use of
groundwater, which took well over 80% of the available well
water. The Central Arizona Project wouldn't have been needed if
the farmers around Phoenix hadn't clamored for it. Ironically,
the farms around Phoenix are now disappearing under subdivisions.

That should be good for the water supply, since residential areas
require far less water than farmland.


That rather depends on what is being farmed but sounds flat wrong
to me. Residential districts use LARGE amounts of water. Plants
dont take showers and flush the loo several times a day.


Most home dodn't flood their lawns four feet deep over a growing
season either but the farms do.


Unless they are growing rice that sounds unlikely.

Keith


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Old July 29th, 2006, 03:51 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:11:35 +0100, "Keith W"
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"Hatunen" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 21:13:32 +0100, "Keith Willshaw"

That rather depends on what is being farmed but sounds flat wrong
to me. Residential districts use LARGE amounts of water. Plants
dont take showers and flush the loo several times a day.


Most home dodn't flood their lawns four feet deep over a growing
season either but the farms do.

Unless they are growing rice that sounds unlikely.


I will mention, though, that in some parts of Phoenix where
farmland has become subdivisions the courts have ruled that the
farm's water rights passed to the homeowners, who now flood their
lawns a couple times a week to irrigate their grass. They have
low dikes around their lawns.

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  #409  
Old July 29th, 2006, 08:44 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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Dave Frightens Me writes:

What matters is education. Educated people don't die from heat.


They die from heat just as much as they die from cold, and potentially
more so because it's harder to protect oneself from heat.

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Old July 29th, 2006, 08:45 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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Keith Willshaw writes:

You didnt specify hypothermia


Hypothermia is the technical term for death from cold, which I did
specify.

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