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At Least Five Die in Paris Airport Roof Collapse
I was just in 2E and 2F this last week, helping a friend get a ticket
changed on Delta for a flight back to LA; It was my first visit and so i was a little lost and especially unpleased with the ticket update problem since we were shuffled around to at least 6 places before getting it straight. But that is an organizational problem. 2E, 2F are very new and obviously errors have been made in the construction. It will be interesting to find out if it is a fault in the conception or the execution of the conception. Since 2F is like 2E, is it faulted too? The others, 2A, B, C, and D terminals have been around for years and are single floor in conception, not multi floored like 2F and 2E. Terminal 1 was the first one and it has been trouble free and is multi floored, with parking on the upper floors. I always preferred Terminal 1 since it was round, if you started on a floor and talked you'd end back where your started. Great for shopping. For people welcoming incoming flights, Terminal 1 is more friendly. I found 2E, 2F cavernous and endless to walk in. Actually I preferred Orly to the whole Roissy complex. Earl **** At Least Five Die in Paris Airport Roof Collapse Sun May 23, 2004 08:40 AM ET By Kerstin Gehmlich PARIS (Reuters) - A least five people were killed and four hurt when part of the roof collapsed at a new terminal at Paris' Charles de Gaulle airport Sunday, triggering a search for trapped survivors and questions about safety. Slabs of concrete, metal and glass crashed onto a waiting area in showcase terminal 2E just before 7 a.m., bringing down an entire 160-foot-long, 100-foot-wide section of the raised tunnel-like building. Most of the victims were passengers. Police had been sealing off and evacuating the area after the passengers noticed cracks in the ceiling and falling dust, 11 months after the terminal opened following construction delays, airport officials said. Rescue workers with sniffer dogs were still searching through the glass, concrete and metal debris and listening for signs of life several hours after the accident. An Air France vehicle was crushed as the domed section collapsed. "Time is a factor. We have to get to the injured as quickly as possible," fire brigade spokesman Laurent Vibert said at the airport at Roissy, northeast of the center of Paris. Another fire-fighter said: "It's like a scene after an earthquake." The Interior Ministry and local officials initially said six people were killed, but fire officials later said five were confirmed dead and a sixth death was expected to be confirmed. It was not clear if that person was badly hurt or was missing. The French government ruled out a terror attack but said the cause of the accident was unknown. INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS Most victims were thought to be passengers arriving or waiting to depart at the busy terminal, while three policemen were hurt. Ambulances and fire brigade vehicles rushed to and from the terminal as the injured were ferried to hospital. Planes were arriving from Newark in the United States and Johannesburg at the time, and one was leaving for Prague. One of the injured was Chinese and another was from Ivory Coast. Passengers heard cracks and saw dust coming down and notified police who started to evacuate the area," said Pierre Graff, head of Aeroports de Paris, the Paris airports authority. "This was a very prestigious hall and it's a very hard day for us today." The terminal opened last June at a cost of 750 million euros ($900 million). It opened late, partly because a commission at first withheld a safety certificate. French media quickly asked if construction was completed properly or had been rushed. Jean-Paul Huchon, president of the greater Paris region, said: "We still don't know the cause but it might have been a construction fault." The terminal is planned eventually to have a capacity of 10 million passengers a year. The airport already handles about 58 million passengers each year and expected a busy day Sunday, the end of a holiday weekend. President Jacques Chirac expressed his sympathy and demanded a thorough investigation. Transport Minister Gilles de Robien and Interior Minister Dominique de Villepin visited the airport and expressed their condolences. Other terminals were still open at the airport but road traffic built up outside. Terminal 2E is mainly used by national carrier Air France but also by other international airlines and has more than 50 flights a day. Air France said flights were being redirected to other terminals. |
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At Least Five Die in Paris Airport Roof Collapse
A roof of a terminal at the deGaulle airport in Paris France collapses and
kills 5 people and all you can offer is a lot of inane blather about how you were inconvenienced the last time you were there to buy an airline ticket! Why don't you rush over there Earl and give the rescuers your architectural suggestions as they are pulling the bodies out of the rubble? I worked on Wall Street in lower Manhattan and visited the Twin Towers many times on business, I ate and drank at the roof top restaurant "Windows on the World, I knew people who were killed on September 11, 2001.........so did millions of others. SO WHAT! You're a self-centered dottering old fool, Earl. Do the world a favor: Find a remote location, crawl under a rock, and die. Capitalist Pig "Earl" wrote in message om... I was just in 2E and 2F this last week, helping a friend get a ticket changed on Delta for a flight back to LA; It was my first visit and so i was a little lost and especially unpleased with the ticket update problem since we were shuffled around to at least 6 places before getting it straight. But that is an organizational problem. 2E, 2F are very new and obviously errors have been made in the construction. It will be interesting to find out if it is a fault in the conception or the execution of the conception. Since 2F is like 2E, is it faulted too? The others, 2A, B, C, and D terminals have been around for years and are single floor in conception, not multi floored like 2F and 2E. Terminal 1 was the first one and it has been trouble free and is multi floored, with parking on the upper floors. I always preferred Terminal 1 since it was round, if you started on a floor and talked you'd end back where your started. Great for shopping. For people welcoming incoming flights, Terminal 1 is more friendly. I found 2E, 2F cavernous and endless to walk in. Actually I preferred Orly to the whole Roissy complex. Earl **** At Least Five Die in Paris Airport Roof Collapse Sun May 23, 2004 08:40 AM ET By Kerstin Gehmlich PARIS (Reuters) - A least five people were killed and four hurt when part of the roof collapsed at a new terminal at Paris' Charles de Gaulle airport Sunday, triggering a search for trapped survivors and questions about safety. Slabs of concrete, metal and glass crashed onto a waiting area in showcase terminal 2E just before 7 a.m., bringing down an entire 160-foot-long, 100-foot-wide section of the raised tunnel-like building. Most of the victims were passengers. Police had been sealing off and evacuating the area after the passengers noticed cracks in the ceiling and falling dust, 11 months after the terminal opened following construction delays, airport officials said. Rescue workers with sniffer dogs were still searching through the glass, concrete and metal debris and listening for signs of life several hours after the accident. An Air France vehicle was crushed as the domed section collapsed. "Time is a factor. We have to get to the injured as quickly as possible," fire brigade spokesman Laurent Vibert said at the airport at Roissy, northeast of the center of Paris. Another fire-fighter said: "It's like a scene after an earthquake." The Interior Ministry and local officials initially said six people were killed, but fire officials later said five were confirmed dead and a sixth death was expected to be confirmed. It was not clear if that person was badly hurt or was missing. The French government ruled out a terror attack but said the cause of the accident was unknown. INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS Most victims were thought to be passengers arriving or waiting to depart at the busy terminal, while three policemen were hurt. Ambulances and fire brigade vehicles rushed to and from the terminal as the injured were ferried to hospital. Planes were arriving from Newark in the United States and Johannesburg at the time, and one was leaving for Prague. One of the injured was Chinese and another was from Ivory Coast. Passengers heard cracks and saw dust coming down and notified police who started to evacuate the area," said Pierre Graff, head of Aeroports de Paris, the Paris airports authority. "This was a very prestigious hall and it's a very hard day for us today." The terminal opened last June at a cost of 750 million euros ($900 million). It opened late, partly because a commission at first withheld a safety certificate. French media quickly asked if construction was completed properly or had been rushed. Jean-Paul Huchon, president of the greater Paris region, said: "We still don't know the cause but it might have been a construction fault." The terminal is planned eventually to have a capacity of 10 million passengers a year. The airport already handles about 58 million passengers each year and expected a busy day Sunday, the end of a holiday weekend. President Jacques Chirac expressed his sympathy and demanded a thorough investigation. Transport Minister Gilles de Robien and Interior Minister Dominique de Villepin visited the airport and expressed their condolences. Other terminals were still open at the airport but road traffic built up outside. Terminal 2E is mainly used by national carrier Air France but also by other international airlines and has more than 50 flights a day. Air France said flights were being redirected to other terminals. |
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On Sun, 23 May 2004 21:17:13 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote: Earl writes: 2E, 2F are very new and obviously errors have been made in the construction. And perhaps nobody will ever know exactly what the errors were. I'm sure the lawyers will figure it out. Gordon |
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Earl writes:
2E, 2F are very new and obviously errors have been made in the construction. And perhaps nobody will ever know exactly what the errors were. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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At Least Five Die in Paris Airport Roof Collapse
Gordon Forbess writes:
I'm sure the lawyers will figure it out. Not in a Latin country like France. It depends on who is at fault. If it's a political figure (or sometimes an influential businessman), the truth will never be known. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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At Least Five Die in Paris Airport Roof Collapse
Gordon Forbess wrote in
: On Sun, 23 May 2004 21:17:13 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote: Earl writes: 2E, 2F are very new and obviously errors have been made in the construction. And perhaps nobody will ever know exactly what the errors were. I'm sure the lawyers will figure it out. Gordon the lawyers rarely figure it out, they just point fingers and collect money if they convince enough people that their finger pointed the right way. Engineers often figure it out, but their findings are often filtered by the lawyers so . . . |
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At Least Five Die in Paris Airport Roof Collapse
On Sun, 23 May 2004 23:09:26 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote: Gordon Forbess writes: I'm sure the lawyers will figure it out. Not in a Latin country like France. It depends on who is at fault. If it's a political figure (or sometimes an influential businessman), the truth will never be known. If Michael Moore is still in the country he could put together a quick "documentary" and blame it on Bush. No doubt the French would swallow that in large gulps. Gordon |
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At Least Five Die in Paris Airport Roof Collapse
Gordon Forbess writes:
If Michael Moore is still in the country he could put together a quick "documentary" and blame it on Bush. No doubt the French would swallow that in large gulps. I don't think the U.S. President had anything to do with it. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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