We Know The Future II

Count on the automobile disappearing in the US, Europe, and elsewhere
in the world as American, European, Asian and other cities go car-free
and freeways and roads in the US and Europe get ripped up and replaced
with mass transit systems and cities go from large to small, giving
way to small cities and towns. Auto use will disappear and walking,
biking, and transit will be the only ways to get around.

Single-family areas and businesses not in the downtown cores will
disappear and the land revert to its natural state or be turned into
farmland. This is already happening in Washington State, Oregon, and
Northern California particularly Berkeley. Richard Register's eco-city
project was unanimously approved by the Berkeley City Council and the
way has been cleared for his company, Eco-City Builders, to start
changing the city into an ecocity. He's working on other projects in
China and New Zealand.

San Francisco will be car-free as its streets are transformed
into pedestrian malls. San Jose will do the same. Los Angeles and
Santa Monics are already going car-free.

European cities are already going car-free including London,
Paris, Rome, Edinburgh, Milan, Dublin, Berlin, Oslo, Helsinki (its
downtown area is already car-free), Dresden, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, the
Hague, Strasbourg, all cities in Switzerland, Hamburg, Athens, Madrid,
Istanbul, Prague, Stockholm, Brussels, Vienna, and Monte Carlo,
Monaco.

In Canada, Vancouver, British Columbia, Calgary, Alberta,
Montreal and Toronto are going car-free.

In the United States, Cleveland, Ohio, Columbus, Ohio, New York
City, Boston, Miami, Florida, Tampa, Florida, Portland, Oregon,
Seattle, and Anchorage, Alaska are going car-free. In the Middle East,
Tel Aviv and Jerusalem in Israel, cities in Morocco and Algeria,
Cairo, Egypt, cities in Saudi Arabia, Tehran, Iran, and other Middle
Eastern cities are going car-free.

Bangkok, Thailand is now car-free. And freeways in the US and
Europe are being torn up. I-95 is being torn up from Florida to Maine
and all other freeways from coast to coast are being torn up.

Air travel is also disappearing. Seven European nations have
plans to close airports. This is all true.

Sources:

www.carfree.com
www.carbusters.org
European national and city web sites
CNN
Yahoo! News
www.ci.berkeley.ca.us

Freeways and paved roads are being torn up. America and the world
are changing!

I always like this posting when it comes around. And always different too!
Seems that he's changed it from all European cities being car free now.
Possibly realised that people do actually read this newsgroup who live in
Europe and can tell him it's bollox!

Still fun to reply tho.

Count on the automobile disappearing in the US, Europe, and elsewhere
in the world as American, European, Asian and other cities go car-free
and freeways and roads in the US and Europe get ripped up and replaced
with mass transit systems and cities go from large to small, giving
way to small cities and towns. Auto use will disappear and walking,
biking, and transit will be the only ways to get around.

Wow, dream that did you?

San Francisco will be car-free as its streets are transformed
into pedestrian malls. San Jose will do the same. Los Angeles and
Santa Monics are already going car-free.

I see. Can you show me the plans?

European cities are already going car-free including London,
Paris, Rome, Edinburgh, Milan, Dublin, Berlin, Oslo, Helsinki (its
downtown area is already car-free), Dresden, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, the
Hague, Strasbourg, all cities in Switzerland, Hamburg, Athens, Madrid,
Istanbul, Prague, Stockholm, Brussels, Vienna, and Monte Carlo,
Monaco.

haha. This is all crap of course! You forgot Newcastle, we have a
pedestrianised high street. I guess you could call that "car free". So did
you get these city names out of your big altas of Europe?

In Canada, Vancouver, British Columbia, Calgary, Alberta,
Montreal and Toronto are going car-free.

In the United States, Cleveland, Ohio, Columbus, Ohio, New York
City, Boston, Miami, Florida, Tampa, Florida, Portland, Oregon,
Seattle, and Anchorage, Alaska are going car-free. In the Middle East,
Tel Aviv and Jerusalem in Israel, cities in Morocco and Algeria,
Cairo, Egypt, cities in Saudi Arabia, Tehran, Iran, and other Middle
Eastern cities are going car-free.

Isn't it funny how only you know this and everyone elses experience is the
exact opposite?!

Bangkok, Thailand is now car-free. And freeways in the US and
Europe are being torn up. I-95 is being torn up from Florida to Maine
and all other freeways from coast to coast are being torn up.

LMFAO! Yeah righty ho there. Show me even 1 mile of freeway/motorway which
is being torn up, right now? You can't because there isn't any. In fact
there are new motorways being built.

Air travel is also disappearing. Seven European nations have
plans to close airports.

Surely air travel is all part of your plan to make things car free is it
not? I could list the dozens of plans in Europe for new airports and airport
expansions but I won't bother.


This is all true.

Sure it is.

"Dustin Lambert" wrote in message
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European cities are already going car-free including London,
Paris, Rome, Edinburgh, Milan, Dublin, Berlin, Oslo, Helsinki (its
downtown area is already car-free), Dresden, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, the
Hague, Strasbourg, all cities in Switzerland, Hamburg, Athens, Madrid,
Istanbul, Prague, Stockholm, Brussels, Vienna, and Monte Carlo,
Monaco.



Where do these Loons come from ?

London is STUFFED with cars, they have brought in a congestion charge
to try and reduce it but there are still millions of the buggers

In Canada, Vancouver, British Columbia, Calgary, Alberta,
Montreal and Toronto are going car-free.

In the United States, Cleveland, Ohio, Columbus, Ohio, New York
City, Boston, Miami, Florida, Tampa, Florida, Portland, Oregon,
Seattle, and Anchorage, Alaska are going car-free. In the Middle East,
Tel Aviv and Jerusalem in Israel, cities in Morocco and Algeria,
Cairo, Egypt, cities in Saudi Arabia, Tehran, Iran, and other Middle
Eastern cities are going car-free.

Bangkok, Thailand is now car-free.

Say What !

From Time Asia

"Black clouds of exhaust invade your nostrils. Red tail lights flash
endlessly before your eyes. You are going nowhere, and not even fast. While
Thailand remains one of the top destinations in Asia, Bangkok's legendary
traffic jams are of such epic proportions that they drive the average
tourist from the capital in about two days. "

http://www.bangkok-private.com/bkk_c...ic/index_e.htm

And freeways in the US and
Europe are being torn up. I-95 is being torn up from Florida to Maine
and all other freeways from coast to coast are being torn up.

Air travel is also disappearing. Seven European nations have
plans to close airports. This is all true.


Only in your delusions

Keith

In article ,
Keith Willshaw wrote:

Only in your delusions

The guy's not deluded. He's a troll. Don't feed him.

(Dustin Lambert) wrote in message m...
Count on the automobile disappearing in the US, Europe, and elsewhere
in the world as American, European, Asian and other cities go car-free
and freeways and roads in the US and Europe get ripped up and replaced
with mass transit systems and cities go from large to small, giving
way to small cities and towns. Auto use will disappear and walking,
biking, and transit will be the only ways to get around.
[snip]

Reversing like 6000 years of human history. Yeah, that's gonna
happen. I really wonder how people think their cause is served
by such bald face lies.

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"me" wrote in message
om...
(Dustin Lambert) wrote in message
m...
Count on the automobile disappearing in the US, Europe, and elsewhere
in the world as American, European, Asian and other cities go car-free
and freeways and roads in the US and Europe get ripped up and replaced
with mass transit systems and cities go from large to small, giving
way to small cities and towns. Auto use will disappear and walking,
biking, and transit will be the only ways to get around.
[snip]

Reversing like 6000 years of human history. Yeah, that's gonna
happen. I really wonder how people think their cause is served
by such bald face lies.

Really?! Cars have been around 6000 years?!

(me) wrote in message . com...
(Dustin Lambert) wrote in message m...
Count on the automobile disappearing in the US, Europe, and elsewhere
in the world as American, European, Asian and other cities go car-free
and freeways and roads in the US and Europe get ripped up and replaced
with mass transit systems and cities go from large to small, giving
way to small cities and towns. Auto use will disappear and walking,
biking, and transit will be the only ways to get around.
[snip]

Reversing like 6000 years of human history. Yeah, that's gonna
happen. I really wonder how people think their cause is served
by such bald face lies.


"6000 years of Human history?" They've only had cars for 100 years or
so at the most.

As far as intensively used land going back to nature because of
changing economic conditions, look at Civil War era photos of the Blue
Ridge mountains in Virginia. back in the 1860's it was one big farm
field, even the steep slopes. Now, a lot of it is wooded wilderness.

It's entirely possible that people will give up the use of cars. At
the very least, once the Chinese get rich enough to afford the same
kind of lifestyle that the folks in the US and Eurpe have, the price
of gasoline everywhere is going to get _very_ expensive.

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:46:57 +0000 (UTC),
(Nelson Lu) wrote:

In article ,
Keith Willshaw wrote:

Only in your delusions

The guy's not deluded. He's a troll. Don't feed him.

And certain to provoke trolls of the opposite opinion.

******Martin Edwards.******

Come on! Nobody's going to ride that lousy freeway
when they can take the Red Car for a nickel.

Eddy Valiant.

www.geocities.com/Athens/Agora/1955/

Really?! Cars have been around 6000 years?!



Leroy, leave it. Certain trolls have stayed under their bridges for
weeks now, don't make a row.

******Martin Edwards.******

Come on! Nobody's going to ride that lousy freeway
when they can take the Red Car for a nickel.

Eddy Valiant.

www.geocities.com/Athens/Agora/1955/

Ted Herzl wrote:
It's entirely possible that people will give up the use of cars. At
the very least, once the Chinese get rich enough to afford the same
kind of lifestyle that the folks in the US and Eurpe have, the price
of gasoline everywhere is going to get _very_ expensive.

It's pretty much guaranteed that people will give them up, and China is
precisely why. The streets are currently packed with bicycles, which can
move far more people per lateral meter of road per km of travel per hour
than cars. Once the average Chinese joe can afford a car, the roads will
quickly become impassable. Therefore we'll have an enterprising nation of a
billion people working hard to come up with the Next Thing, and I'm quite
confident they'll do it. Hopefully it will be an improvement this time
rather than a setback (which the car was, except under idealized
conditions).

miguel
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