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Virginia among several dozen possible other individual statesimmediately prepares court challenge to legality of ObamaCare mandates.



 
 
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 08:50 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,rec.travel.europe,soc.retirement
Earl Evleth[_1_]
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Default Virginia among several dozen possible other individual statesimmediately prepares court challenge to legality of ObamaCare mandates.

On 22/03/10 20:18, in article
, "Go Fig"
wrote:

Additionally, the Constitution requires that both
houses of Congress act on the bill in the same manner... that is not
the case here the voting procedure was different.



If that were true the filibuster would not exist.

You are inventing things.

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Default Virginia among several dozen possible other individual statesimmediately prepares court challenge to legality of ObamaCare mandates.

On Mar 22, 1:50*pm, Earl Evleth wrote:
On 22/03/10 20:18, in article
, "Go Fig"

wrote:
Additionally, the Constitution requires that both
houses of Congress act on the bill in the same manner... that is not
the case here the voting procedure was different.


If that were true the filibuster would not exist.

You are inventing things.


Giving your representation of Social Security for the
constitutionality of the federal government forcing an individual to
buy goods or service from a third party... you clearly don't
understand this area of Constitutional law.



jay
Mon Mar 22, 2010

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Default Virginia among several dozen possible other individual statesimmediately prepares court challenge to legality of ObamaCare mandates.



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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:45:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Virginia among several dozen possible other individual states
immediately prepares court challenge to legality of ObamaCare mandates.

On Mar 22, 7:22*am, "Tis Odonovan, Himself" wrote:
Virginia among several dozen possible other individual states
immediately prepares court challenge to legality of ObamaCare
mandates.

Washington Post

UPDATED: Cuccinelli to file suit 'as soon as the ink is dry' on health-
care signature

A spokesman for Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli said Sunday
evening that he has already prepared his court filings challenging the
constitutionality of the health-care reform measure that just now
passed the House.

According to spokesman Brian Gottstein, Cuccinelli will file suit on
behalf of the Commonwealth in the Eastern District of Virginia "as
soon as the ink is dry" on President Obama's signature on the bill.

Cuccinelli, who has filed suit against the EPA challenging the
agency's regulation of greenhouse gases, has been the most vocal of
several Republican attorneys general who have promised to sue over
health care. Just over a week ago, Virginia became the first state in
the country to pass a state law making it illegal for the government
to require an individual to purchase health insurance, a key element
of the bill.

UPDATE 11:35 p.m.: Why file so quickly? Gottstein: "It's more cost
efficient to start the process of challenging the bill as soon as
possible. There are significant costs in implementing the health care
law, so if it is going to be found unconstitutional, then we can save
taxpayer money and trouble by making that determination sooner rather
than later."

By Rosalind Helderman *| *March 21, 2010; 8:18 PM ET

New York Times Headline:

Legal and Political Fights Loom for Democrats
By JEFF ZELENY and SHERYL GAY STOLBERG
Published: March 21, 201

Excerpt:

"...The politics of health care are fragile ‹ and far from certain ‹
in the eight-month midterm campaign that will determine which party
will control Congress next year. But both sides steeled for a fight to
extend well beyond November, involving state legislative battles,
court challenges and, ultimately, the next presidential race...."


Theya re not suing anyone you idiot. They are challanging the legality
of the bill. Undoubtdely, this one will go all the up to SCOTUS.

Jigsaw


Nobody has yet told me on what grounds they are challenging its legality.
Can anyone enlighten me?

Donna Evleth

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Old March 23rd, 2010, 02:10 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,rec.travel.europe,soc.retirement
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Default Virginia among several dozen possible other individual statesimmediately prepares court challenge to legality of ObamaCare mandates.



On Mar 23, 9:20*am, Donna Evleth wrote:


Nobody has yet told me on what grounds they are challenging its legality.
Can anyone enlighten me?

Donna Evleth



A simple google news search could quickly provide an answer but Madame
still again demands to be spoon fed information.


Google News search

Results 1 – 10 of about 117 for states challenge constitutionality of
Obamacare. (0.17 seconds)
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Old March 23rd, 2010, 04:57 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,rec.travel.europe,soc.retirement
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Default Virginia among several dozen possible other individual statesimmediately prepares court challenge to legality of ObamaCare mandates.

On Mar 22, 6:22*am, "Tis Odonovan, Himself" wrote:
Virginia among several dozen possible other individual states
immediately prepares court challenge to legality of ObamaCare
mandates.

.. . .

The legal logic behind the mandates is that if people don't have
health insurance, they wind up free loading off the system and it
costs the rest of us money.

I would imagine that if the states were to establish a program where
they provide the health care for people who don't have insurance, thus
relieving the federal government and people who have insurance of any
responsibility or financial damage, they might have a chance in court.
The states would also have to work out some sort of legal arrange
where one state pays another state when that state provides medical
care for its residents who don't have insurance.

The possibility of that happening is not only remote, but laughable.
Any judge is likely to look at such a lawsuit as an attempt to
continue the current system of cost shifting medical care from people
who don't have insurance to people who do and from the states to the
federal government.

 




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