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Old May 2nd, 2005, 05:09 AM
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Default Where to get good Ulu blades?

We will be hitting the three popular ports in Alaska next week. I will
be looking for a good and AUTHANTIC Ulu knife.

I know that if the blade is stamped, "Made in China" or
"Stainless Steel" the odds are it's a piece of junk and made to
sit on a windowsill.

Is there a store or person who is known for selling good high carbon
blade Ulu's?

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Old May 2nd, 2005, 05:18 AM
Mike Cordelli
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www.theulufactory.com, they sell all over the state, and via mail, they are
based in Anchorage.. Not sure why Stainless makes it a piece of junk there
is lots of very fine cutlery out there made from Stainless steel.



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We will be hitting the three popular ports in Alaska next week. I will
be looking for a good and AUTHANTIC Ulu knife.

I know that if the blade is stamped, "Made in China" or
"Stainless Steel" the odds are it's a piece of junk and made to
sit on a windowsill.

Is there a store or person who is known for selling good high carbon
blade Ulu's?



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Old May 2nd, 2005, 05:51 AM
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lots of very fine cutlery out there made from Stainless steel

No, companies mass produce millions of knives made out of stainless
steel that look pretty years after they go into a drawer. The website
you provided, shows the Ulu being "stamped" out of a giant roll of
stainless steel.

The problem is stainless steel is very difficult to get a sharp edge.
And yes, it is steel, but "soft" if compared to high carbon. If a
stainless blade is used daily, it will dull within weeks. High carbon
will go for months.

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Old May 2nd, 2005, 06:38 AM
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The "native" ulu blades are usually made from used circular saw blades which
are usually some sort of carbon steel. Not sure this will help but perhaps
there is a trade or school outlet you might research on the web.

Hope this helped.

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We will be hitting the three popular ports in Alaska next week. I will
be looking for a good and AUTHANTIC Ulu knife.

I know that if the blade is stamped, "Made in China" or
"Stainless Steel" the odds are it's a piece of junk and made to
sit on a windowsill.

Is there a store or person who is known for selling good high carbon
blade Ulu's?



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Old May 2nd, 2005, 06:38 AM
WamLm
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The "native" ulu blades are usually made from used circular saw blades which
are usually some sort of carbon steel. Not sure this will help but perhaps
there is a trade or school outlet you might research on the web.

Hope this helped.

wrote in message
oups.com...
We will be hitting the three popular ports in Alaska next week. I will
be looking for a good and AUTHANTIC Ulu knife.

I know that if the blade is stamped, "Made in China" or
"Stainless Steel" the odds are it's a piece of junk and made to
sit on a windowsill.

Is there a store or person who is known for selling good high carbon
blade Ulu's?



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Old May 2nd, 2005, 12:27 PM
Tom K
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wrote in message
ups.com...
lots of very fine cutlery out there made from Stainless steel


No, companies mass produce millions of knives made out of stainless
steel that look pretty years after they go into a drawer. The website
you provided, shows the Ulu being "stamped" out of a giant roll of
stainless steel.

The problem is stainless steel is very difficult to get a sharp edge.
And yes, it is steel, but "soft" if compared to high carbon. If a
stainless blade is used daily, it will dull within weeks. High carbon
will go for months.


There are different kinds of stainless steel. Stainless steel is even used
to make surgical equipment, and you can get a very good edge on some of that
stuff.

Here are German made stainless steel knives that will go months without
getting dull. It all depends on what kind of stainless steel you make it
from. These are among the best knives made in the world. They are a high
carbon/stainless alloy.

http://www.wusthof.com/main.htm

I'm not saying you want an Ulu knife made from stainless. Those may indeed
be junk. They may be made from stainless steel that's not good for knives.
But don't assume ALL stainless knives will dull quickly. Good German
stainless knives will hold an edge for a long time. I've had 4 of these
knives for about 20 years.

--Tom


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Old May 2nd, 2005, 02:47 PM
Mike Cordelli
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Tom, I don't think so. My razor, the scalpels, and good knives are all made
from rusty old circular saw blades, not good quality stainless steel.




"Tom K" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
ups.com...
lots of very fine cutlery out there made from Stainless steel


No, companies mass produce millions of knives made out of stainless
steel that look pretty years after they go into a drawer. The website
you provided, shows the Ulu being "stamped" out of a giant roll of
stainless steel.

The problem is stainless steel is very difficult to get a sharp edge.
And yes, it is steel, but "soft" if compared to high carbon. If a
stainless blade is used daily, it will dull within weeks. High carbon
will go for months.


There are different kinds of stainless steel. Stainless steel is even

used
to make surgical equipment, and you can get a very good edge on some of

that
stuff.

Here are German made stainless steel knives that will go months without
getting dull. It all depends on what kind of stainless steel you make it
from. These are among the best knives made in the world. They are a high
carbon/stainless alloy.

http://www.wusthof.com/main.htm

I'm not saying you want an Ulu knife made from stainless. Those may

indeed
be junk. They may be made from stainless steel that's not good for

knives.
But don't assume ALL stainless knives will dull quickly. Good German
stainless knives will hold an edge for a long time. I've had 4 of these
knives for about 20 years.

--Tom




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Old May 2nd, 2005, 03:49 PM
number6
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Tom K wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
lots of very fine cutlery out there made from Stainless steel


No, companies mass produce millions of knives made out of stainless
steel that look pretty years after they go into a drawer. The

website
you provided, shows the Ulu being "stamped" out of a giant roll of
stainless steel.

The problem is stainless steel is very difficult to get a sharp

edge.
And yes, it is steel, but "soft" if compared to high carbon. If a
stainless blade is used daily, it will dull within weeks. High

carbon
will go for months.


There are different kinds of stainless steel. Stainless steel is

even used
to make surgical equipment, and you can get a very good edge on some

of that
stuff.


What follows is probably more than you'd ever want to know about
stainless steel ....

In making steel alloys, Carbon is the basic hardening agent ...
hardening is what alloys the iron to maintain its sharpness and
Chromium is the main "stainless" ingredient which has only minor
hardnening effects. Carbon is added at up to about 1 % whereas Chromium
is 13 % or more ...
There are three types of stainless steel ... First Ferritic ... that is
the crappy stainless steel ... won't rust too quickly but will dull
with use ... These are magnetic ... and cheap ... A better stainless
steel is austenitic stainless steel which has metals like manganese and
nickel added ... These are non-magnetic ... much more resistant towards
rusting ... and can hold it's sharpened edge easier ...
The stainless steel that is best in hardness and rust resistant is
martenisitic stainless steel ... This is also magnetic ... but hardened
with carbon ...

Now High Carbon Steels are the hardest available ... without chromium
.... these alloys can achieve maximum hardness (holds it's edge better)
.... but these rust ... To achieve better rusting behavior, they can add
some chromium ... but not as much to make it "stainless" steel ...

Carbon Steels are forgable (think a blacksmith's shop) whereas
stainless steels generally are not ... this allows your fabricated
final product the heat treatments needed to maximize the properties
(mainly hardness) you desire ... Carbon steels can also be adapted as
alloys with metals like Molydenum and the like to give it better rust
resistance without harming its hardness (actually helping) while
stainless steels do no really have much flexibility towards increasing
its hardness ...


Here are German made stainless steel knives that will go months

without
getting dull. It all depends on what kind of stainless steel you

make it
from. These are among the best knives made in the world. They are a

high
carbon/stainless alloy.

http://www.wusthof.com/main.htm


This website lists stain resistant high carbon steels ... not
technically "stainless" steels ... Interstingly they refer to knives
with a stainless steel handle ... and a high carbon stain resistant
blade ...

The hardest steel would be a forged high carbon steel ... but would
rust easily ...
The most rust resistant steel would be an austenitic stainless steel
.... but not as hard as you'd like ...
Like a freestyle cruise ... there's a trade-off ...

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Old May 2nd, 2005, 03:49 PM
number6
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Tom K wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
lots of very fine cutlery out there made from Stainless steel


No, companies mass produce millions of knives made out of stainless
steel that look pretty years after they go into a drawer. The

website
you provided, shows the Ulu being "stamped" out of a giant roll of
stainless steel.

The problem is stainless steel is very difficult to get a sharp

edge.
And yes, it is steel, but "soft" if compared to high carbon. If a
stainless blade is used daily, it will dull within weeks. High

carbon
will go for months.


There are different kinds of stainless steel. Stainless steel is

even used
to make surgical equipment, and you can get a very good edge on some

of that
stuff.


What follows is probably more than you'd ever want to know about
stainless steel ....

In making steel alloys, Carbon is the basic hardening agent ...
hardening is what alloys the iron to maintain its sharpness and
Chromium is the main "stainless" ingredient which has only minor
hardnening effects. Carbon is added at up to about 1 % whereas Chromium
is 13 % or more ...
There are three types of stainless steel ... First Ferritic ... that is
the crappy stainless steel ... won't rust too quickly but will dull
with use ... These are magnetic ... and cheap ... A better stainless
steel is austenitic stainless steel which has metals like manganese and
nickel added ... These are non-magnetic ... much more resistant towards
rusting ... and can hold it's sharpened edge easier ...
The stainless steel that is best in hardness and rust resistant is
martenisitic stainless steel ... This is also magnetic ... but hardened
with carbon ...

Now High Carbon Steels are the hardest available ... without chromium
.... these alloys can achieve maximum hardness (holds it's edge better)
.... but these rust ... To achieve better rusting behavior, they can add
some chromium ... but not as much to make it "stainless" steel ...

Carbon Steels are forgable (think a blacksmith's shop) whereas
stainless steels generally are not ... this allows your fabricated
final product the heat treatments needed to maximize the properties
(mainly hardness) you desire ... Carbon steels can also be adapted as
alloys with metals like Molydenum and the like to give it better rust
resistance without harming its hardness (actually helping) while
stainless steels do no really have much flexibility towards increasing
its hardness ...


Here are German made stainless steel knives that will go months

without
getting dull. It all depends on what kind of stainless steel you

make it
from. These are among the best knives made in the world. They are a

high
carbon/stainless alloy.

http://www.wusthof.com/main.htm


This website lists stain resistant high carbon steels ... not
technically "stainless" steels ... Interstingly they refer to knives
with a stainless steel handle ... and a high carbon stain resistant
blade ...

The hardest steel would be a forged high carbon steel ... but would
rust easily ...
The most rust resistant steel would be an austenitic stainless steel
.... but not as hard as you'd like ...
Like a freestyle cruise ... there's a trade-off ...

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Old May 2nd, 2005, 04:07 PM
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The Ulu knife, half moon knife in Italy, and probably a different version in
almost every other country is one of the most versatile kitchen knives, for
both men and women. My Italian grandmother had a double bladed one for as
long as I can remember. It's got nothing to do with men or women, it has to
do with a real timesaver in the kitchen.

Nothing chops things like herbs faster then one of these, and virtually
nothing is better at filleting then a ulu shaped knife..





"Karen " wrote in message
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"number6" wrote:

What follows is probably more than you'd ever want to know about
stainless steel ....


Why are men so fascinated with knives?

Karen


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