Anyone understand the TSA's "3 ounce" rule?

I just recently traveled (domestic US) and didn't carry a whole lot.
However - we still needed to check in (even with the $15 first bag
charge) because we were carrying sunscreens, cosmetics, bug repellent,
and other toiletries that were more than 3 oz per bottle.

I remember back the original liquid explosive scare in 2006. Back
then the TSA relaxed their initial ruling that liquids had to be
checked in and set a 4 oz maximum. That made a lot of sense because a
lot of standard sized packaging (contact lens solutions, sunscreens,
etc) as well as travel containers were 4 oz. I've also flown
internationally (depends on the departure country), and outside the US
the limit is 100 ml (about 3.3. oz), which makes a lot of sense
because that's a common size for many toiletries - even some products
sold in the US. Even if we need to check in some larger bottles, it
would be nice if I could apply sunscreen from that 4 oz bottle before
we land.

Anyone know of any actual 3 oz bottles? I bought a few Nalgene 2 oz
bottles, but they seem a bit small. 100 ml looks good enough, but I'm
not sure if they'll allow it. I did see a box filled with discarded
containers that didn't make it past the TSA security. I also gave
about a half-case of bottled water to some curbside baggage handlers;
they stashed it and seemed to appreciate it.

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I just recently traveled (domestic US) and didn't carry a whole lot.
However - we still needed to check in (even with the $15 first bag
charge) because we were carrying sunscreens, cosmetics, bug repellent,
and other toiletries that were more than 3 oz per bottle.

I remember back the original liquid explosive scare in 2006. Back
then the TSA relaxed their initial ruling that liquids had to be
checked in and set a 4 oz maximum. That made a lot of sense because a
lot of standard sized packaging (contact lens solutions, sunscreens,
etc) as well as travel containers were 4 oz. I've also flown
internationally (depends on the departure country), and outside the US
the limit is 100 ml (about 3.3. oz), which makes a lot of sense
because that's a common size for many toiletries - even some products
sold in the US. Even if we need to check in some larger bottles, it
would be nice if I could apply sunscreen from that 4 oz bottle before
we land.

Anyone know of any actual 3 oz bottles? I bought a few Nalgene 2 oz
bottles, but they seem a bit small. 100 ml looks good enough, but I'm
not sure if they'll allow it. I did see a box filled with discarded
containers that didn't make it past the TSA security. I also gave
about a half-case of bottled water to some curbside baggage handlers;
they stashed it and seemed to appreciate it.

100mL is allowed, the TSA calls this "3 oz" but it's actually "3.4 oz"

http://www.tsa.gov/311/

DevilsPGD wrote:

100mL is allowed, the TSA calls this "3 oz" but it's actually "3.4 oz"

IIRC, the original TSA rule was indeed 3.0 oz. When TSA decreed that incoming
international flights needed to comply with the same rule, the first response
from those airlines was "What's an ounce?" They compromised on 100 ml.

Anyone know of any actual 3 oz bottles? I bought a few Nalgene 2 oz
bottles, but they seem a bit small. 100 ml looks good enough

These guys have many sizes of plastic bottles

http://www.ippnet.com/

100ml - which is a tad more than 3oz - is the International Standard - used
worldwide for fluids etc. The TSA accept it - personal experience!





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I just recently traveled (domestic US) and didn't carry a whole lot.
However - we still needed to check in (even with the $15 first bag
charge) because we were carrying sunscreens, cosmetics, bug repellent,
and other toiletries that were more than 3 oz per bottle.

I remember back the original liquid explosive scare in 2006. Back
then the TSA relaxed their initial ruling that liquids had to be
checked in and set a 4 oz maximum. That made a lot of sense because a
lot of standard sized packaging (contact lens solutions, sunscreens,
etc) as well as travel containers were 4 oz. I've also flown
internationally (depends on the departure country), and outside the US
the limit is 100 ml (about 3.3. oz), which makes a lot of sense
because that's a common size for many toiletries - even some products
sold in the US. Even if we need to check in some larger bottles, it
would be nice if I could apply sunscreen from that 4 oz bottle before
we land.

Anyone know of any actual 3 oz bottles? I bought a few Nalgene 2 oz
bottles, but they seem a bit small. 100 ml looks good enough, but I'm
not sure if they'll allow it. I did see a box filled with discarded
containers that didn't make it past the TSA security. I also gave
about a half-case of bottled water to some curbside baggage handlers;
they stashed it and seemed to appreciate it.

Anyone know of any actual 3 oz bottles? I bought a few Nalgene 2 oz
bottles, but they seem a bit small. 100 ml looks good enough, but I'm
not sure if they'll allow it. I did see a box filled with discarded
containers that didn't make it past the TSA security. I also gave
about a half-case of bottled water to some curbside baggage handlers;
they stashed it and seemed to appreciate it.


Go to your local pharmacy and ask them to sell you some 3 oz bottles.
Nowadays they are usually plastic and so cheap that they will probably give
them to you. BTW, you cannot fill 3 oz bottles with liquor ( Scotch) and put
them in your allowable one quart zip lock bag. No booze can be carried onto
the plane, unless, perhaps, duty free.

BTW, you cannot fill 3 oz bottles with liquor ( Scotch) and put them
in your allowable one quart zip lock bag. No booze can be carried
onto the plane, unless, perhaps, duty free.

The TSA's web site says nothing about booze (except implicitly that
151 rum would be banned because it's flammable.) Where is this rule
against carrying alcohol onto the plane?

Drinking your own booze on the plane is a different issue, since most
airlines require you to drink only booze that they serve you, but I've
never seen any rule about booze you don't try to drink.

R's,
John

In John Levine wrote:

Where is this rule against carrying alcohol onto the plane?

Don't know the origin of this rule, or if it's NWA (now Delta) specific
but:

http://www.nwa.com/travel/luggage/sp...html#alcoholic

Alcoholic Beverages

Northwest accepts alcoholic beverages in sealed retail packaging
or in receptacles not exceeding 5 liters as checked baggage
only. Passengers may carry a total quantity of 5 liters of
alcohol per person.

Note: Beverages containing over 70% alcohol by volume or 140
proof will not be accepted.


A quick check shows that United and Southwest have the same rules.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN

"John Levine" wrote in message
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BTW, you cannot fill 3 oz bottles with liquor ( Scotch) and put them
in your allowable one quart zip lock bag. No booze can be carried
onto the plane, unless, perhaps, duty free.

The TSA's web site says nothing about booze (except implicitly that
151 rum would be banned because it's flammable.) Where is this rule
against carrying alcohol onto the plane?

Drinking your own booze on the plane is a different issue, since most
airlines require you to drink only booze that they serve you, but I've
never seen any rule about booze you don't try to drink.

R's,
John

Of course, part of the idea was to carry on some for me to drink on board
and the rest later on. I called AA and asked them about it and the person I
talked to said no booze on board. Anyway, that one person did.

In message "singlemalt"
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Anyone know of any actual 3 oz bottles? I bought a few Nalgene 2 oz
bottles, but they seem a bit small. 100 ml looks good enough, but I'm
not sure if they'll allow it. I did see a box filled with discarded
containers that didn't make it past the TSA security. I also gave
about a half-case of bottled water to some curbside baggage handlers;
they stashed it and seemed to appreciate it.


Go to your local pharmacy and ask them to sell you some 3 oz bottles.

If the bottles aren't labeled by the manufacturer you may bump into
problems. I'm not sure how strictly this is enforced, but I was
questioned about how I know a shampoo bottle with a worn label was under
the limit, since it had a matching conditioner bottle with a readable
label it wasn't an issue.

Remember this isn't about security, it's theatre.

If you want proof that the quantity of liquid isn't a factor bring two
fully loaded baggies, put one in a bin on top of your jacket and the
second in another bin with a handful of change and cell phone, no one
will notice that you have more liquid then allowed. If you want proof
that the size of the bottle isn't a factor, bring some large empty
bottles and see if they are confiscated.

Nowadays they are usually plastic and so cheap that they will probably give
them to you. BTW, you cannot fill 3 oz bottles with liquor ( Scotch) and put
them in your allowable one quart zip lock bag. No booze can be carried onto
the plane, unless, perhaps, duty free.

I don't see anything specifically prohibiting liquor on the prohibited
list right now; see http://www.tsa.gov/311/index.shtm and
http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...ted-items.shtm

However, flammable liquids are prohibited, so this might prohibit your
drink of choice. On the other hand, how often do you see TSA
representatives attempting to identify liquids?

Or if you're not too worried about breaking the law, just leave the
liquid in your pocket, unless you go through the new millimeter wave
scanners or leave metal in that same pocket, you likely won't be
stopped.