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Travel to China for 10 days
I am visiting China for 10 days and would like to cover most of it.
Please let me know if the below is a realistic plan. Planning to travel by the train in the night. China Travel Plan * 12 Thursday – Reach Shanghai 13 Friday – Shanghai Tour 14 Saturday – Shanghai Tour & Leave to Beijing (Train #T104 Shanghai 20:36 Beijing 09:36 ) 15 Sunday - Beijing Tour 16 Monday – Beijing & Leave to Xian (Train #Z19 Beijing West 21:24 Xian 08:25 ) 17 Tuesday – Xian Tour 18 Wednesday – Xian & Leave to Guilin (Train #K315/K318 Xian 19:38 Guilin 22:07 ) 19 Thursday – Guilin Tour 20 Friday – Guilin & Leave to Shanghia (Train #K538 Guilin 17:33 Shanghai 14:55 ) 21 Saturday – Shanghai Tour 22 Sunday – Suzhou Tour 23 Monday - Leave to US Planning to travel by train in the night, * http://www.chinahighlights.com/china-trains At each stop, I am planning on taking a day trip. The trips are the following, http://chinatour.net/Great-Wall-Tour.html 1 Day Tour : Great Wall, Tiananmen Square, Forbidden City http://chinatour.net/Xian-Tours.html 1 Day Tour : Terra-cotta Warriors, Wild Goose Pagoda, City Wall http://chinatour.net/Guilin-Tours.html 1 Day Yangshuo Characteristic & Li River Cruise Tour * I have following questions, 1. Is above a realistic plan? My wife and 2 kids will be traveling with me. They all are healthy and athletic. 2. Would you recommend staying an extra day in any specific location? 3. I have some distant friends in Shanghai, I am hoping they will be give some sound suggestions on local travel in Shanghai. 4. Do railway stations have good showers? Any suggestions on where I can find good showers? 5. Things to carry? Thanks, Raj |
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If this is a trip organised by a Chinese tour agency, then fine.
If this is an independent tour, put together by yourself, then I would be extremely concerned about getting hold of train tickets at such short notice. For example, last year I met a couple of independent travellers in Xian who had to spend (an extra) 3 days there because all trains to Beijing were fully booked. AFAIK, showers in Chinese railway stations do not exist, and washing facilities on trains are a mess. Gerry wrote in message ... I am visiting China for 10 days and would like to cover most of it. Please let me know if the below is a realistic plan. Planning to travel by the train in the night. China Travel Plan 12 Thursday – Reach Shanghai 13 Friday – Shanghai Tour 14 Saturday – Shanghai Tour & Leave to Beijing (Train #T104 Shanghai 20:36 Beijing 09:36 ) 15 Sunday - Beijing Tour 16 Monday – Beijing & Leave to Xian (Train #Z19 Beijing West 21:24 Xian 08:25 ) 17 Tuesday – Xian Tour 18 Wednesday – Xian & Leave to Guilin (Train #K315/K318 Xian 19:38 Guilin 22:07 ) 19 Thursday – Guilin Tour 20 Friday – Guilin & Leave to Shanghia (Train #K538 Guilin 17:33 Shanghai 14:55 ) 21 Saturday – Shanghai Tour 22 Sunday – Suzhou Tour 23 Monday - Leave to US Planning to travel by train in the night, http://www.chinahighlights.com/china-trains At each stop, I am planning on taking a day trip. The trips are the following, http://chinatour.net/Great-Wall-Tour.html 1 Day Tour : Great Wall, Tiananmen Square, Forbidden City http://chinatour.net/Xian-Tours.html 1 Day Tour : Terra-cotta Warriors, Wild Goose Pagoda, City Wall http://chinatour.net/Guilin-Tours.html 1 Day Yangshuo Characteristic & Li River Cruise Tour I have following questions, 1. Is above a realistic plan? My wife and 2 kids will be traveling with me. They all are healthy and athletic. 2. Would you recommend staying an extra day in any specific location? 3. I have some distant friends in Shanghai, I am hoping they will be give some sound suggestions on local travel in Shanghai. 4. Do railway stations have good showers? Any suggestions on where I can find good showers? 5. Things to carry? Thanks, Raj |
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To me, it sounds like you will have a hard time doing all that,
especially if you are doing it on your own, and without carefully and completely having all your local arrangements in place ahead of time. I took this tour in October 2007 http://www.china-vacation.com/2008/L.../2008_G12E.pdf which coeers much of the same terrirtory in 12 days. The travel was very efficiient, with almost no "down time". We flew between all the major cities, with tight connections and no time wasted on getting tickets or arranging ground transportation, finding hotels, figuring out menus, etc. Meals were served to us immediately when we arrived at the restaurants. When we took the Li River boat tour, there were almost 100 boats waiting for passengers, and our local tour guide took us directly to the correct one. There were a couple late night arrivals at the hotels, and also a couple early morning departures. My feeling is that, even if you are fluent in Mandarin, you would have a hard time being efficient enough at making your local arrangements (hotels, tours, etrc) without having the intimate knowledge of a local resident. Little problems inevitably occur, and it was really helpful when the tour company could bring all of its resources (local and national offices) to fix them. Even if you could check into your hotels in the mornings after the train travel (don't coudnt on it; many hotels enforce their afternoon check in times), you will probably want to wash up after an overnight train ride. Realistically, you should not be able to start your tourist activities until about lunch time. |
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On Jun 8, 8:28*pm, wrote:
I am visiting China for 10 days and would like to cover most of it. Please let me know if the below is a realistic plan. Planning to travel by the train in the night. China Travel Plan * 12 Thursday – Reach Shanghai 13 Friday – Shanghai Tour 14 Saturday – Shanghai Tour & Leave to Beijing (Train #T104 Shanghai 20:36 Beijing 09:36 ) 15 Sunday - Beijing Tour 16 Monday – Beijing & Leave to Xian (Train #Z19 Beijing West 21:24 Xian 08:25 ) 17 Tuesday – Xian Tour 18 Wednesday – Xian & Leave to Guilin (Train #K315/K318 Xian 19:38 Guilin 22:07 ) 19 Thursday – Guilin Tour 20 Friday – Guilin & Leave to Shanghia (Train #K538 Guilin 17:33 Shanghai 14:55 ) 21 Saturday – Shanghai Tour 22 Sunday – Suzhou Tour 23 Monday - Leave to US Planning to travel by train in the night, *http://www.chinahighlights.com/china-trains At each stop, I am planning on taking a day trip. The trips are the following, http://chinatour.net/Great-Wall-Tour.html 1 Day Tour : Great Wall, Tiananmen Square, Forbidden City http://chinatour.net/Xian-Tours.html 1 Day Tour : Terra-cotta Warriors, Wild Goose Pagoda, City Wall http://chinatour.net/Guilin-Tours.html 1 Day Yangshuo Characteristic & Li River Cruise Tour * I have following questions, 1. Is above a realistic plan? My wife and 2 kids will be traveling with me. They all are healthy and athletic. 2. Would you recommend staying an extra day in any specific location? 3. I have some distant friends in Shanghai, I am hoping they will be give some sound suggestions on local travel in Shanghai. 4. Do railway stations have good showers? Any suggestions on where I can find good showers? 5. Things to carry? Thanks, Raj After this trip, or even sometimes during this trip, your wife will want to divorce you and your kid will hate your gut. All of you will be so tired you won't even have the energy to argue. And your distance friends in Shanghai will be mysteriously out of town the day you visit. When do you plan to take a shower during this trip? No there isn't any at railway stations. But since you are leaving this thursday, there isn't a whole lot of time to make any plans is there? |
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Thanks Gerald, Feng and Peter for your opinion.
My wife is from Shanghai and hoping the language would not be an issue. I have changed the itnernary to take flights on the last two segments. Shanghai - Beijing - Red eye train journey (kids love them) Beijing - Xian - Red eye train journey (kids love them again) Xian - Guilin - Flight ( too long for train journey) Guilin - Shanghai - Flight ( too long for train journey) Here is our plan, 12 Thursday - Shanghai - Hotel Stay/In-laws 13 Friday - Hotel Breakfast – Shanghai Tour - Hotel Stay/In-laws 14 Saturday - Hotel Breakfast – Shanghai Tour - 8:36pm Leave to Beijing #T104 - Train Red-eye 15 Sunday - Train Red-eye - 09:36am reach Beijing - Beijing Tour - Hotel Stay 16 Monday - Hotel Breakfast – Beijing - Hotel Stay 17 Tuesday - Hotel Breakfast - Beijing - 9:24pm Leave to Xian #Z19 - Train Red-eye 18 Wednesday - Train Red-eye - 09:36am reach Xian – Xian Tour - Hotel Stay 19 Thursday - Hotel Breakfast – Xian - 1:40pm China Eastern Air #MU2307 - 3:25pm #MU2307 reaches Guilin - Guilin - Hotel Stay 20 Friday - Hotel Breakfast - Guilin - Hotel Stay 21 Saturday - Hotel Breakfast - Guilin - 10:15pm China Eastern Air #MU5382 22 Sunday - 12:25 am #MU5382 reaches Shanghai - Shanghai - Hotel Stay/In-laws 23 Monday - Leave to US Thanks! |
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On Jun 9, 1:39*pm, Tiiger wrote:
Thanks Gerald, Feng and Peter for your opinion. My wife is from Shanghai and hoping the language would not be an issue. I have changed the itnernary to take flights on the last two segments. Shanghai - Beijing - Red eye train journey (kids love them) Beijing - Xian - Red eye train journey (kids love them again) Have your kids taken overnight trains in China? If so fine. If not maybe they won't love them so much. And allow alternative options in case you can't get train tickets. Xian - Guilin - Flight ( too long for train journey) Guilin - Shanghai - Flight ( too long for *train journey) Here is our plan, 12 Thursday - Shanghai - Hotel Stay/In-laws 13 Friday - Hotel Breakfast – Shanghai Tour - Hotel Stay/In-laws 14 Saturday - Hotel Breakfast – Shanghai Tour - 8:36pm Leave to Beijing #T104 - Train Red-eye 15 Sunday - Train Red-eye - 09:36am reach Beijing - Beijing Tour - Hotel Stay 16 Monday - Hotel Breakfast – Beijing - Hotel Stay 17 Tuesday - Hotel Breakfast - Beijing - 9:24pm Leave to Xian #Z19 - Train Red-eye 18 Wednesday - Train Red-eye - 09:36am reach Xian – Xian Tour - Hotel Stay 19 Thursday - Hotel Breakfast – Xian - 1:40pm China Eastern Air #MU2307 - 3:25pm #MU2307 * reaches Guilin - Guilin - Hotel Stay 20 Friday - Hotel Breakfast - Guilin - Hotel Stay 21 Saturday - Hotel Breakfast - Guilin - 10:15pm China Eastern Air #MU5382 22 Sunday - 12:25 am #MU5382 reaches Shanghai - Shanghai - Hotel Stay/In-laws 23 Monday - Leave to US Thanks! |
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Thanks Peter. They have taken small trips on Train in China. They love
them. This should be fine. I can always get a flight ticket more easily then train tickets, if I have to change it (if the kids are tired). |
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Travel to China for 10 days
wrote in message ... 5. Things to carry? When travelling in China there are two rules that you will very much regret breaking: 1) never, ever, ever, drink the tap water (don't even use it for cleaning your teeth), 2) don't forget to take toilet paper with you everywhere. So the answer to this question is: branded bottled water (check the seals before you buy) and toilet paper. Oh, and I think your tour is ridiculously optimistic! tim |
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Travel to China for 10 days
In article , tims next home says...
When travelling in China there are two rules that you will very much regret breaking: 1) never, ever, ever, drink the tap water (don't even use it for cleaning your teeth), 2) don't forget to take toilet paper with you everywhere. So the answer to this question is: branded bottled water (check the seals before you buy) and toilet paper. What a nonsense. In all places where I stayed they had clean western style toilets with toilet papers and brushing the teeth with tap water caused no problems. It sounds you have been staying in extremely cheap low-end places with shared toilets. -- Alfred Molon http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe |
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"Alfred Molon" wrote in message ... In article , tims next home says... When travelling in China there are two rules that you will very much regret breaking: 1) never, ever, ever, drink the tap water (don't even use it for cleaning your teeth), 2) don't forget to take toilet paper with you everywhere. So the answer to this question is: branded bottled water (check the seals before you buy) and toilet paper. What a nonsense. In all places where I stayed they had clean western style toilets with toilet papers I wasn't referring to "places where one stays", I was referring to "whilst one is out and about". This is what the question was about. and brushing the teeth with tap water caused no problems. Until you get unlucky. You are probably right that this might be unnecessary, but who's to know It sounds you have been staying in extremely cheap low-end places with shared toilets. The water in the most expensive hotel comes from the same place as the grottiest flee-pit. If a town's water isn't treated by the municipality, then it isn't treated by the hotel. I was only following advice give to me by colleagues, all of whom, without exception, had been ill whilst there. tim |
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