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life after Windows....
In article , Mxsmanic
writes William Black writes: Never heard of a motor car being recalled for an in service modification? Mine was, twice... It has never happened to me. Perhaps they programmed you to forget ... -- Roger Hunt |
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax writes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_rot Software rot depends on change. If nothing change, no "rot" occurs. The same is true of life -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party http://www.onetribe.me.uk/wordpress/?cat=5 - Our podcasts on weird stuff |
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life after Windows....
In message , Mxsmanic
writes erilar writes: I did for my GPS. I didn't ask about your GPS (which suffers from much the same defects as computers), I asked about a microwave oven. Embedded systems (GPS or Microwaves) are not the same as PC's -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ |
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Chris H writes:
Embedded systems (GPS or Microwaves) are not the same as PC's I wasn't talking about embedded systems, either. I was talking about a microwave oven as a complete product. It requires no technical support, and you don't have to "update" it to keep it working. Consumers tolerate things among computer companies that would lead them to riot with any other type of product. I wonder how long it will take for them to wise up. |
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Mxsmanic wrote: erilar writes: I did for my GPS. I didn't ask about your GPS (which suffers from much the same defects as computers), I asked about a microwave oven. Mine is second-hand and slow, but it works. I've had to replace a stove(which needed repairs a few times) and refrigerator, though. -- Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar) You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument is that reason doesn't count. --Isaac Asimov Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo |
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life after Windows....
In message , Mxsmanic
writes Chris H writes: Embedded systems (GPS or Microwaves) are not the same as PC's I wasn't talking about embedded systems, either. I was talking about a microwave oven as a complete product. That is an embedded system as is a GPS and their software is developed to a higher standard than PC apps. On the other hand it is only designed to run on one specific piece of hardware. That is their strength. It is also the strong point for most MACs. Apple controlled both the hardware and the software. For Windows it can get installed on a vast array of different motherboards with different MCU, disk and memory configurations as well as a huge array of additional cards... though these days there are fewer people plugging cards into PCs compared to the past. It requires no technical support, and you don't have to "update" it to keep it working. This is not completely true. Several systems I have (washing machine, dish washer and ovens) can be updated. As can most cars. Consumers tolerate things among computer companies that would lead them to riot with any other type of product. That I agree with. Most embedded systems have far better software than PC applications I wonder how long it will take for them to wise up. They don't -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ |
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Chris H writes:
That is an embedded system as is a GPS and their software is developed to a higher standard than PC apps. So why is PC software written to a lower standard? For Windows it can get installed on a vast array of different motherboards with different MCU, disk and memory configurations as well as a huge array of additional cards... though these days there are fewer people plugging cards into PCs compared to the past. And when they do plug cards in, they are a lot more likely to work immediately. This is not completely true. Several systems I have (washing machine, dish washer and ovens) can be updated. As can most cars. What sorts of updates do you load into your washing machine and oven? |
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In message , Mxsmanic
writes Chris H writes: That is an embedded system as is a GPS and their software is developed to a higher standard than PC apps. So why is PC software written to a lower standard? Commercial necessity and lack of discipline For Windows it can get installed on a vast array of different motherboards with different MCU, disk and memory configurations as well as a huge array of additional cards... though these days there are fewer people plugging cards into PCs compared to the past. And when they do plug cards in, they are a lot more likely to work immediately. Usually they work because there are SW drivers supplied with them as Window is an open architecture with defined interfaces. This is not completely true. Several systems I have (washing machine, dish washer and ovens) can be updated. As can most cars. What sorts of updates do you load into your washing machine and oven? I don't the service people do. Not often but they can had have done. -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ |
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life after Windows....
In article , Chris H
writes In message , Mxsmanic writes What sorts of updates do you load into your washing machine and oven? I don't the service people do. Not often but they can had have done. The mind boggles ... Are these updates free? -- Roger Hunt |
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life after Windows....
In message , Roger Hunt
writes In article , Chris H writes In message , Mxsmanic writes What sorts of updates do you load into your washing machine and oven? I don't the service people do. Not often but they can had have done. The mind boggles ... Are these updates free? Usually -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ |
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