Avoid Delta and Atlanta

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Miguel Cruz writes:

Tak province. It ain't like Bangkok.

That's true in the U.S., too: places out in the boondocks are less
likely to have amenities like air conditioning. But the fact remains
that A/C is extremely widespread in hot climates.


Bull****!

The boon docks are not what they used to be, not that you've ever spent
enough time in them to tell the difference between boondocks and
boondoggles.

Other than places favorably situated because of local climate, homes and
businesses "out in the boondocks" are as likely to be ACed as those in the
heart of the largest urban areas. The 'lectric line running along the road
and Owner/renter/occupier income are the determining factors, and between
old FDR bringing the REA to some boondockery parts of the boondocks and
several generations of prosperity, Carrier, Lennox, Train et al will be
happy to send the nearest dealer out with a system in the back of a truck.
Just be ready with a check.

Hell, I'm on the edge of the boondocks, and I've got three systems, all heat
pumps, in a house designed to be zone cooled....

South of the Mason Dixon Line, and other than in the mountains or the
NorthWest Coast, I can't iamgine a new US home being built without a modern
HVAC system. Even "public housing", government susbsized and assisted
housing for the elderly, handicapped and low income families built since
1938, has been largely retrofitted (at great cost) with AC systems, since in
much of the country, even the "poor" now turn up their noses at
unairconditioned dwellings.

TMO

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Miguel Cruz writes:

Tak province. It ain't like Bangkok.

That's true in the U.S., too: places out in the boondocks are less
likely to have amenities like air conditioning. But the fact remains
that A/C is extremely widespread in hot climates.

Please specify, in detail, in which Asian Countries you have travelled and
your experience of air conditioning there or the lack of it thereof. I
suspect none and that your total knowledge of the world is limited to
Arizona and Northern France.

JohnT

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Miguel Cruz writes:

This isn't what actually happens. I am sitting in front of the computer
with one fan and my skin is dry to the touch. The humidity today is in
the high 80s.

Your skin is never dry. You're just losing water to evaporation
before you notice it accumulating on your skin.

Lose what? People here are happy and comfortable.

Well, no, they aren't. In hot climates without air conditioning, it's
routine to complain continually about the heat.

Miguel says not. Miguel is respected on travel ngs. Mixi is not. QED.

JohnT

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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The Reid writes:

what time of the year do most deaths occur in the northern
hemisphere?

Weather-related deaths? Summer.

Statistical sources? I suspect that you are talking out of your rear
orifice, as usual.

JohnT

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Dave Frightens Me writes:

No it is not. Hypothermia is a much greater risk that hyperthermia.

Right now officials in California are complaining that they don't have
enough space to contain all the dead bodies from the heat wave. You
don't often hear that in winter, even when the cold is very extreme.

What extreme cold is there in Southern California? it did snow once in San
Diego, briefly, but that was in 1912.

JohnT

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:33:08 +0100, "JohnT"
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Miguel Cruz writes:

Tak province. It ain't like Bangkok.

That's true in the U.S., too: places out in the boondocks are less
likely to have amenities like air conditioning. But the fact remains
that A/C is extremely widespread in hot climates.

Please specify, in detail, in which Asian Countries you have travelled and
your experience of air conditioning there or the lack of it thereof. I
suspect none and that your total knowledge of the world is limited to
Arizona and Northern France.

He doesn't discuss personal experience, only facts.
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:06:20 +0200, Mxsmanic
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Dave Frightens Me writes:

No it is not. Hypothermia is a much greater risk that hyperthermia.

Right now officials in California are complaining that they don't have
enough space to contain all the dead bodies from the heat wave. You
don't often hear that in winter, even when the cold is very extreme.

That is a very unscientific view.
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The Reid wrote:

Obstinate denial that you mis-spoke despite undeniable proof snipped,
not worth the effort to repeat the proof

"Yesterday's battles"??? There was a discussion about medical care
*TODAY*, economic policy *TODAY*, etc. Those are today's discussions.
People like you are still trying to cling to an economic philosophy
that failed.

Nonsence, I live and work in a free market capitalist system that
chooses to fund medical care from taxes, that isnt a failed
communist state. you dont seem to be able to differentiate the
two.

You don't seem to understand that what you just described is called
"Socialism".

I'm looking at economic mechanisms that will be needed in the
*future*, you are looking at the past, seeing capitalism beat
communism and basing all your thinking around that one point..

Again you demonstrate a basic lack of understanding. Capitalism didn't
"beat" Communism. Communism/Socialism failed all by itself. Socialism
is a fatally flawed theory and any attempt to implement it will always
fail over time. That has been proven over and over again.

Economic theory and warming are linked in that in a purely
capitalist system dependant on growth there is no mechanism to
accomodate the new reality of the priority of reducing emissions.
this was my original point.

I guess you need to learn what Capitalism means before you continue to
make comments.

you guess wrong.

Capitalism has exactly zero do with mechanisms to
accomodate new realities.

Capitalism has to do with profit orientated privately (as opposed
to state) controlled systems that flourish or fail by levels of
profit or loss, nothing much else. The new realities may clash
with that.

You mean your personal view of reality which has been shown to be more
than a little bit skewed.

Or are you talking about some other form of Capitalism that you forgot
to specify and are assuming that people here can read you mind?

Maybe *you* cant comprehend what i'm talking about. For example
our system depends on growth, one particular example is pension
fund investment. Growth is going to be in part incompatible with
reducing pollution. This is a problem.

Growth is *not* incompatible with reducing pollution. That's what you
don't get.

There is a common term to describe the state in which an organism is no
longer growing. It's called "death". Those who demand that the world
quit growing and advancing are promoting yet another guaranteed-to-fail
theory.

Keith W wrote:
"Tchiowa" wrote in message
ups.com...
In Thailand the situation is somewhat similar, AC is fairly widespread
amongst the upper socio economic classes but not available for
the majority.

Blithering nonsense. I live in Thailand. A/C is not commonly used in
farming areas because the houses aren't sufficiently well-insulated.
But during the hottest times of the year the locals complain about
difficulty sleeping.

The majority of people in Thailand have A/C available. Whether they
choose to buy it or not is a different story. In Bangkok probably 95%
of the middle class has A/C and half of the poor.

Most people dont live in Bangkok and most of the population DONT have AC

Most of the population either has A/C or doesn't need it (living up
north it's not always necessary).

And the portion I responded to was the statement that A/C is "not
available" for the majority which is simply silly.

In Nigeria outside of foreign compounds and government offices
its almost unknown. Most Nigerians count themselves lucky
to have a transistor radio let alone AC

I've lived in Nigeria for 2-3 years total. Again, in the rural areas
where there is no A/C you're right. But in Lagos or Abuja or PH A/C is
not at all uncommon.

They are a small part of the country and I doubt you spent much time in
the poorer districts. When 60% of the population hevent even got
electricity you wont seem many air conditioners

Which is what I said if you re-read it.

And your comment about radios is kind of silly.
Maybe 20 years ago.

Nope, according to official Nigerian Govt statistics only 10% of
rural households and 40% of the total population have
access to electricity.

Were you under the impression that transistor radios don't run on
batteries? Battery powered radios are the most common form of "home
entertainment" in the remote areas.

Mxsmanic wrote:
The Reid writes:

is the difference here between a perception of an "international"
district and one of the country in general?

Perhaps it is the difference between a civilized metropolis and a
backward countryside.

I think it is the difference between a perception of a poverty stricken
Third World country and reality which is a maturing economy and a
substantial middle class. Thailand isn't First World yet, but neither
is it Third World.

20 years ago the village where my wife was raised had no electricity,
no phones, 1 dirt road coming in. Now there are paved roads, phones,
electricity, cable TV, satellite TV, cell phone towers and, yes, air
conditioning. And this is still considered a "poor farming areas".