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PLS HELP: use of tickets with connection
Please, help me in that question:
Suppose that I am flying Madrid-Milan-Athens, and return Athens-Milan-Madrid with a low-price ticket, which does not allow any change or cancellation. If in the return trip I do not use the ticket from Athens to Milan, because I arrive to Milan by another mean, does the airline automatically cancel my ticket Milan-Madrid? This is what my travel agent claims, since according to the company, if I miss the first flight, I cannot take the second connection… If that’s right, I imagine following trick: A friend, who will fly the same schedule Athens-Milan-Madrid, would make the check-in in Athens for me and for himself (I would give him an ID), and get my boarding passes for the two flights. Then I would not take the first flight in Athens (obviously I would be already in Milan).We would meet in Milan and my friend would give me the boarding card for the flight Milan-Madrid, and I would take the plane. Would in this instance the airline cancel my second boarding card, because I did not use the first one? Well, I would appreciate any enlightenment on that subject. Thanks in advance. JB |
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PLS HELP: use of tickets with connection
"Usuario Invitado" wrote in message ... Please, help me in that question: If in the return trip I do not use the ticket from Athens to Milan, because I arrive to Milan by another mean, does the airline automatically cancel my ticket Milan-Madrid? Yes.. Unless (theres always an unless) you are flying with a low cost carrier or your Milan-Madrid ticket is booked entirely seperately from your Athens-Milan ticket This is what my travel agent claims, since according to the company, if I miss the first flight, I cannot take the second connection. It's called hidden city ticketing I believe. Not permitted. If that's right, I imagine following trick: A friend, who will fly the same schedule Athens-Milan-Madrid, would make the check-in in Athens for me and for himself (I would give him an ID), and get my boarding passes for the two flights. How would he make the checkin for you and himself? The checking agent will want to see you in person, not just your ID! Then I would not take the first flight in Athens (obviously I would be already in Milan).We would meet in Milan and my friend would give me the boarding card for the flight Milan-Madrid He wouldn't be able to obtain the boarding card, you have to be there in person, with your ID. and I would take the plane. Would in this instance the airline cancel my second boarding card, because I did not use the first one? Yes. But anyway, you wouldn't be able to get a boarding card. Well, I would appreciate any enlightenment on that subject. My advice would be to book your segments seperately. Book Madrid-Milan return on one ticket, then book Athens-Milan on another ticket, and if necessary don't use the return portion of that. You will not be able to have your baggage checked through or get boarding passes at your origin so make sure you leave enough time for your connection. |
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PLS HELP: use of tickets with connection
"Usuario Invitado" wrote s...
Suppose that I am flying Madrid-Milan-Athens, and return Athens-Milan-Madrid with a low-price ticket, which does not allow any change or cancellation. If in the return trip I do not use the ticket from Athens to Milan, because I arrive to Milan by another mean, does the airline automatically cancel my ticket Milan-Madrid? Yes. If that's right, I imagine following trick: A friend, who will fly the same schedule Athens-Milan-Madrid, would make the check-in in Athens for me and for himself (I would give him an ID), and get my boarding passes for the two flights. Doubtful he can get you checked in, because they'll have to see the one who is travelling in person and make sure the name matches the holder of the passport. So just for security reasons that would probably not be possible. Greetz, *your travelagent was right* |
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PLS HELP: use of tickets with connection
"Usuario Invitado" skrev i meddelandet ... Please, help me in that question: Suppose that I am flying Madrid-Milan-Athens, and return Athens-Milan-Madrid with a low-price ticket, which does not allow any change or cancellation. If in the return trip I do not use the ticket from Athens to Milan, because I arrive to Milan by another mean, does the airline automatically cancel my ticket Milan-Madrid? This is what my travel agent claims, since according to the company, if I miss the first flight, I cannot take the second connection. Right, the coupons in a ticket must be used in the order they're issued otherwise the remaining coupons are automatically cancelled. Technically you can drop the last leg and coupon/coupons in a trip without problems but not the first nor anything in the mid. If that's right, I imagine following trick: A friend, who will fly the same schedule Athens-Milan-Madrid, would make the check-in in Athens for me and for himself (I would give him an ID), and get my boarding passes for the two flights. Then I would not take the first flight in Athens (obviously I would be already in Milan).We would meet in Milan and my friend would give me the boarding card for the flight Milan-Madrid, and I would take the plane. Would in this instance the airline cancel my second boarding card, because I did not use the first one? -------------------------------------------------------- Assuming your friend is checking in twice ? First himself and another time with your id ? May work if have an outlook similar to you but there's another check when boarding and no doubt one passenger must be reported missing wich should trigger the security system. It's not unlikely they'll unload the luggage and so on. When the identity of the missing person is found it's quite likely that the missing persons booking is cancelled. That said if the check in works, but if your friend is being caught with a not valid id he have a real problem once again triggering security even more. Don't know so much of Greek legislation but I guess using another persons identity is against the law. Where I'm (Sweden) there're harsh punishments against such things so don't force your friend to do that trick. L.P |
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PLS HELP: use of tickets with connection
Sorry don't work. You can't get a boarding pass without actually being
there in person. Just the id won't work. And even if your friend does get your boarding pass, you'll actually have to board, otherwise the airline will show one person not boarding. "Usuario Invitado" wrote in message ... Please, help me in that question: Suppose that I am flying Madrid-Milan-Athens, and return Athens-Milan-Madrid with a low-price ticket, which does not allow any change or cancellation. If in the return trip I do not use the ticket from Athens to Milan, because I arrive to Milan by another mean, does the airline automatically cancel my ticket Milan-Madrid? This is what my travel agent claims, since according to the company, if I miss the first flight, I cannot take the second connection. If that's right, I imagine following trick: A friend, who will fly the same schedule Athens-Milan-Madrid, would make the check-in in Athens for me and for himself (I would give him an ID), and get my boarding passes for the two flights. Then I would not take the first flight in Athens (obviously I would be already in Milan).We would meet in Milan and my friend would give me the boarding card for the flight Milan-Madrid, and I would take the plane. Would in this instance the airline cancel my second boarding card, because I did not use the first one? Well, I would appreciate any enlightenment on that subject. Thanks in advance. JB |
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PLS HELP: use of tickets with connection
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:05:59 +0200 Usuario Invitado
wrote: :Suppose that I am flying Madrid-Milan-Athens, and return :Athens-Milan-Madrid with a low-price ticket, which does not allow any :change or cancellation. :If in the return trip I do not use the ticket from Athens to Milan, :because I arrive to Milan by another mean, does the airline :automatically cancel my ticket Milan-Madrid? This is what my travel :agent claims, since according to the company, if I miss the first :flight, I cannot take the second connection… Typically that is true. :If that’s right, I imagine following trick: :A friend, who will fly the same schedule Athens-Milan-Madrid, would make :the check-in in Athens for me and for himself (I would give him an ID), :and get my boarding passes for the two flights. Then I would not take :the first flight in Athens (obviously I would be already in Milan).We :would meet in Milan and my friend would give me the boarding card for :the flight Milan-Madrid, and I would take the plane. :Would in this instance the airline cancel my second boarding card, :because I did not use the first one? Assuming that your friend looks enough like you this should work. Would you be able to manage a few days without your ID? To the various airline toadies - no, I do not have an ethical problem with using just part of a purchased service. -- Binyamin Dissen http://www.dissensoftware.com |
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PLS HELP: use of tickets with connection
"Binyamin Dissen" wrote in message ... On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:05:59 +0200 Usuario Invitado wrote: :Suppose that I am flying Madrid-Milan-Athens, and return :Athens-Milan-Madrid with a low-price ticket, which does not allow any :change or cancellation. :If in the return trip I do not use the ticket from Athens to Milan, :because I arrive to Milan by another mean, does the airline :automatically cancel my ticket Milan-Madrid? This is what my travel :agent claims, since according to the company, if I miss the first :flight, I cannot take the second connection. Typically that is true. :If that's right, I imagine following trick: :A friend, who will fly the same schedule Athens-Milan-Madrid, would make :the check-in in Athens for me and for himself (I would give him an ID), :and get my boarding passes for the two flights. Then I would not take :the first flight in Athens (obviously I would be already in Milan).We :would meet in Milan and my friend would give me the boarding card for :the flight Milan-Madrid, and I would take the plane. :Would in this instance the airline cancel my second boarding card, :because I did not use the first one? Assuming that your friend looks enough like you this should work. Would you be able to manage a few days without your ID? See that the OP is talking about international travel, we are probably talking passport as an ID. I wonder how the OP is planning to use his passport to go from Greece to Italy and yet have another passport for his friend to use to get the boarding pass. To the various airline toadies - no, I do not have an ethical problem with using just part of a purchased service. -- Binyamin Dissen http://www.dissensoftware.com |
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PLS HELP: use of tickets with connection
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"Peter L" wrote: See that the OP is talking about international travel, we are probably talking passport as an ID. I wonder how the OP is planning to use his passport to go from Greece to Italy and yet have another passport for his friend to use to get the boarding pass. both are Schengen treaty countries IIRC. No need for immigration procedures |
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PLS HELP: use of tickets with connection
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:40:07 +0000 (UTC), "Derek F"
wrote: And when they did their head count on the plane there would be a missing passenger. A missing passenger tends to get an airline very excited. They'll hold up the plane while they check all the luggage to see if the missing person checked any luggage and left it for on the plane, for instance. If it was a through flight making a stop at the airport tthey may empty the plane and look for any mystery packages in the overheads and under the seats. The TV program "Airport", chronicling day to day operations at Heathrow, had a somewhat nerve-wracking sequence about a missing passenger who was finally located. ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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PLS HELP: use of tickets with connection
Not the Karl Orff wrote: In article , "Peter L" wrote: See that the OP is talking about international travel, we are probably talking passport as an ID. I wonder how the OP is planning to use his passport to go from Greece to Italy and yet have another passport for his friend to use to get the boarding pass. both are Schengen treaty countries IIRC. No need for immigration procedures But, they will probably notice that he is not on the plane. |
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