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"Lansbury" schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... The suit in the office probably has a far better understanding of the best practice for all passengers than the passenger who is only considering their *own* needs. If an aircraft crashes (as opposed to a control forced landing) it will invariable catch fire, that is why there is a requirement to evacuate in 90 seconds, longer than let you are dead. 90? Ok, my mistake. I thought just over 2min but couldn't remember exactly anymore. Lots of Greetings! Volker |
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"Lansbury" schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... The suit in the office probably has a far better understanding of the best practice for all passengers than the passenger who is only considering their *own* needs. If an aircraft crashes (as opposed to a control forced landing) it will invariable catch fire, that is why there is a requirement to evacuate in 90 seconds, longer than let you are dead. 90? Ok, my mistake. I thought just over 2min but couldn't remember exactly anymore. Lots of Greetings! Volker |
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In message , at 08:59:32 on Wed, 6 Apr
2005, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" remarked: most of the aircraft I've been in have only two seats on the window sides - at worst one would only inconvenience ONE person. No, most seem to have three. Especially those smaller aircraft used by people like Easyjet, that only have one aisle. -- Roland Perry |
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In message , at 08:59:32 on Wed, 6 Apr
2005, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" remarked: most of the aircraft I've been in have only two seats on the window sides - at worst one would only inconvenience ONE person. No, most seem to have three. Especially those smaller aircraft used by people like Easyjet, that only have one aisle. -- Roland Perry |
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if you work on that theory then really doctors arent really needed, because
what would a doctor know if your saying that person himself knows better than anyone else. "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message ... Lansbury wrote: On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:08:27 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote: My only "beef" with British Airways is their "policy" of insisting that anyone using a wheelchair sit in a window seat (regardless of their pre-booked seat assignment). It is a pity all airlines do not adopt that rule. In an emergency anyone who has problems with movement is a hindrance to more mobile persons evacuating the aircraft. That's probably true (although it's considerably easier to get out of an aisle seat quickly, even for someone "who has problems with movement"), but there are other reasons for needing a wheelchair, as mentioned. No "rule" should be so arbitrary it allows of no exceptions. If in an aisle seat they could block other passengers in that row from getting out quickly enough. "Row"? Seats in the middle of th plane may be accessed from either aisle, and most of the aircraft I've been in have only two seats on the window sides - at worst one would only inconvenience ONE person. (And it inconveniences them far more, if the person in the window seat must make frequent trips to the lavatories.) A very rare occurrence in practicality but one BA has at least thought about, and decided to put the onus on the emergency situation. So never mind what the passenger wants and has specifically booked far in advance? Most people with "disabilities" are far more aware of their capabilities than some "suit" in an airline's central offices. |
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if you work on that theory then really doctors arent really needed, because
what would a doctor know if your saying that person himself knows better than anyone else. "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message ... Lansbury wrote: On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:08:27 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote: My only "beef" with British Airways is their "policy" of insisting that anyone using a wheelchair sit in a window seat (regardless of their pre-booked seat assignment). It is a pity all airlines do not adopt that rule. In an emergency anyone who has problems with movement is a hindrance to more mobile persons evacuating the aircraft. That's probably true (although it's considerably easier to get out of an aisle seat quickly, even for someone "who has problems with movement"), but there are other reasons for needing a wheelchair, as mentioned. No "rule" should be so arbitrary it allows of no exceptions. If in an aisle seat they could block other passengers in that row from getting out quickly enough. "Row"? Seats in the middle of th plane may be accessed from either aisle, and most of the aircraft I've been in have only two seats on the window sides - at worst one would only inconvenience ONE person. (And it inconveniences them far more, if the person in the window seat must make frequent trips to the lavatories.) A very rare occurrence in practicality but one BA has at least thought about, and decided to put the onus on the emergency situation. So never mind what the passenger wants and has specifically booked far in advance? Most people with "disabilities" are far more aware of their capabilities than some "suit" in an airline's central offices. |
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"Roland Perry" kirjoitti viestissä .uk... In message , at 08:59:32 on Wed, 6 Apr 2005, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" remarked: most of the aircraft I've been in have only two seats on the window sides - at worst one would only inconvenience ONE person. No, most seem to have three. Especially those smaller aircraft used by people like Easyjet, that only have one aisle. -- Naturally you know better than other folks what planes they have travelled by. It is very typical to have only two adjacent seats. |
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"Roland Perry" kirjoitti viestissä .uk... In message , at 08:59:32 on Wed, 6 Apr 2005, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" remarked: most of the aircraft I've been in have only two seats on the window sides - at worst one would only inconvenience ONE person. No, most seem to have three. Especially those smaller aircraft used by people like Easyjet, that only have one aisle. -- Naturally you know better than other folks what planes they have travelled by. It is very typical to have only two adjacent seats. |
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"Markku Grönroos" wrote in message ... "Roland Perry" kirjoitti viestissä .uk... In message , at 08:59:32 on Wed, 6 Apr 2005, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" remarked: most of the aircraft I've been in have only two seats on the window sides - at worst one would only inconvenience ONE person. No, most seem to have three. Especially those smaller aircraft used by people like Easyjet, that only have one aisle. -- Naturally you know better than other folks what planes they have travelled by. It is very typical to have only two adjacent seats. Depends on how you define "very typical"..... I see a number of 2_2s in regional jets and suspect there may be some 1_2s among them, fly regularly in SAABs and Embraers with 1_2s (and 2 turning), spend what seems a lifetime in MD80s and the occasional elderly DC9, 2_3s in back, but after that the "single aislers" are fat enough for the 3_3 configuration, especially the myriad 737s with narrow-butt seats and seat backs not wide enough for normal shoulders. I presume that any number of "double aislers" retain 2_ .....configuration for the seats adjacent to windows, leaving a bank of 4 in the middle, no poor soul more than a seat from the aisle. But no more than Divamanque would consider herself to be "typical" or even "very typical" would I consider 2_... seating to be so. It is, however, more typical than a hippopotamus grazing in a china shoppe, one like Evelyn who believes that the only "rules" which apply to her are those with which she finds to be appropriate to her own perception of her condition and status, while the poor vulgar beasts who comprise her travel companions, are subject not only to all the rules, but to her interpretation of how they should conduct themselves. One who evidences a physical disability by requesting the airline/airport to wheel her between gates should expect that the airlines would perceive that that same disability would be likely to impede a fellow passenger's access to the aisle and to escape in an emergency. Having once been required to "deboard" an aircraft after a completely unplanned and all too sudden stop, I would certainly hate to have her in my way should I be in the window seat next to her hesitant attempts to heave herself into the aisle. I can assure all readers that (while in reversed type as it were) the brand of cross trainers or of the heels of conventional shoes I was wearing would be prominently displayed across various parts of her body. Next she'll be wanting to ride in one of those folding FA seats (with the lifesaving 4 point harness) adjacent to the exit door, so all she has to do is simply board last, exit first or be bundled like a bowling ball onto the slide after any unplanned sudden descent into terrain unapproved for conventional landings. TMO |
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"Markku Grönroos" wrote in message ... "Roland Perry" kirjoitti viestissä .uk... In message , at 08:59:32 on Wed, 6 Apr 2005, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" remarked: most of the aircraft I've been in have only two seats on the window sides - at worst one would only inconvenience ONE person. No, most seem to have three. Especially those smaller aircraft used by people like Easyjet, that only have one aisle. -- Naturally you know better than other folks what planes they have travelled by. It is very typical to have only two adjacent seats. Depends on how you define "very typical"..... I see a number of 2_2s in regional jets and suspect there may be some 1_2s among them, fly regularly in SAABs and Embraers with 1_2s (and 2 turning), spend what seems a lifetime in MD80s and the occasional elderly DC9, 2_3s in back, but after that the "single aislers" are fat enough for the 3_3 configuration, especially the myriad 737s with narrow-butt seats and seat backs not wide enough for normal shoulders. I presume that any number of "double aislers" retain 2_ .....configuration for the seats adjacent to windows, leaving a bank of 4 in the middle, no poor soul more than a seat from the aisle. But no more than Divamanque would consider herself to be "typical" or even "very typical" would I consider 2_... seating to be so. It is, however, more typical than a hippopotamus grazing in a china shoppe, one like Evelyn who believes that the only "rules" which apply to her are those with which she finds to be appropriate to her own perception of her condition and status, while the poor vulgar beasts who comprise her travel companions, are subject not only to all the rules, but to her interpretation of how they should conduct themselves. One who evidences a physical disability by requesting the airline/airport to wheel her between gates should expect that the airlines would perceive that that same disability would be likely to impede a fellow passenger's access to the aisle and to escape in an emergency. Having once been required to "deboard" an aircraft after a completely unplanned and all too sudden stop, I would certainly hate to have her in my way should I be in the window seat next to her hesitant attempts to heave herself into the aisle. I can assure all readers that (while in reversed type as it were) the brand of cross trainers or of the heels of conventional shoes I was wearing would be prominently displayed across various parts of her body. Next she'll be wanting to ride in one of those folding FA seats (with the lifesaving 4 point harness) adjacent to the exit door, so all she has to do is simply board last, exit first or be bundled like a bowling ball onto the slide after any unplanned sudden descent into terrain unapproved for conventional landings. TMO |
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