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Advice re Katoomba & Spiders!
Hi, I've another question. We'd like to visit Katoomba. Could anyone
reccommend a good place to stay that would range from 120-170 a night for 6 people? Like most people, we're trying to do things on the cheap but a lot of the websites for Katoomba list very expensive accommodation. Also, my nephew is freaked out about Australian spiders and thinks there will be one lurking under each blanket. What is it with the spiders anyhow? They'd be deep in the bush, right? He thinks we have to be extra cautious or something. Now he's got my mom worried and it's getting contagious. What's the real story? Thanks. Kathy in BC, Canada |
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Advice re Katoomba & Spiders!
Of course there are spiders, just as there are wolves in Canada - and I'm
sure more Canadians die under the fangs of wolves each year than Australians die from spider bite!!! Only 2 venomous spiders are common - the redback, which is a nervous and reclusive distant relative of the black widow (which I believe is in Canada) - and the funnel web which is a ground dwelling spider and not aggressive unless you break into its tunnel. I can't remember when the last spider bite fatality occurred!!! For cheapish accommodation go to the Blue Mountains option on: http://www.wotif.com.au "Kathy Garner" wrote in message news:%xfoc.66$RM.40@edtnps89... Hi, I've another question. We'd like to visit Katoomba. Could anyone reccommend a good place to stay that would range from 120-170 a night for 6 people? Like most people, we're trying to do things on the cheap but a lot of the websites for Katoomba list very expensive accommodation. Also, my nephew is freaked out about Australian spiders and thinks there will be one lurking under each blanket. What is it with the spiders anyhow? They'd be deep in the bush, right? He thinks we have to be extra cautious or something. Now he's got my mom worried and it's getting contagious. What's the real story? Thanks. Kathy in BC, Canada |
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Now, calm down, "A Mate" I'll forward your reply to the kid.
Nope, never seen a wolf...only a sasquatch! :-) Thanks for the link. Kathy A Mate wrote: Of course there are spiders, just as there are wolves in Canada - and I'm sure more Canadians die under the fangs of wolves each year than Australians die from spider bite!!! Only 2 venomous spiders are common - the redback, which is a nervous and reclusive distant relative of the black widow (which I believe is in Canada) - and the funnel web which is a ground dwelling spider and not aggressive unless you break into its tunnel. I can't remember when the last spider bite fatality occurred!!! For cheapish accommodation go to the Blue Mountains option on: http://www.wotif.com.au "Kathy Garner" wrote in message news:%xfoc.66$RM.40@edtnps89... Hi, I've another question. We'd like to visit Katoomba. Could anyone reccommend a good place to stay that would range from 120-170 a night for 6 people? Like most people, we're trying to do things on the cheap but a lot of the websites for Katoomba list very expensive accommodation. Also, my nephew is freaked out about Australian spiders and thinks there will be one lurking under each blanket. What is it with the spiders anyhow? They'd be deep in the bush, right? He thinks we have to be extra cautious or something. Now he's got my mom worried and it's getting contagious. What's the real story? Thanks. Kathy in BC, Canada |
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"A Mate" wrote: Of course there are spiders, just as there are wolves in Canada - and I'm sure more Canadians die under the fangs of wolves each year than Australians die from spider bite!!! Only 2 venomous spiders are common - the redback, uh no, You are perpetuating myths. No one has been killed by wolves in Canada for a generation or 2. Dogs, definitewly, dingoes definitely, but not wolves. I wager more Aussies die from spiders in..... 6 months than Canadians from wolves in the past 20 years which is a nervous and reclusive distant relative of the black widow (which I believe is in Canada) - and the funnel web which is a ground dwelling spider and not aggressive unless you break into its tunnel. I can't remember when the last spider bite fatality occurred!!! For cheapish accommodation go to the Blue Mountains option on: http://www.wotif.com.au "Kathy Garner" wrote in message news:%xfoc.66$RM.40@edtnps89... Hi, I've another question. We'd like to visit Katoomba. Could anyone reccommend a good place to stay that would range from 120-170 a night for 6 people? Like most people, we're trying to do things on the cheap but a lot of the websites for Katoomba list very expensive accommodation. Also, my nephew is freaked out about Australian spiders and thinks there will be one lurking under each blanket. What is it with the spiders anyhow? They'd be deep in the bush, right? He thinks we have to be extra cautious or something. Now he's got my mom worried and it's getting contagious. What's the real story? Thanks. Kathy in BC, Canada |
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"Not the Karl Orff" wrote in message news:canwine-
I wager more Aussies die from spiders in..... 6 months than Canadians from wolves in the past 20 years Interestingly- http://www.general.monash.edu.au/muarc/hazard/haz35.pdf reports 46 cases of spider bite attending emergency departments in Victoria in 5 years, with NO deaths, There were 5 deaths in those 5 years from other stings/bites - 3 from allergic reaction to bee stings and 2 from snake bite. For heavens sake - be VERY careful crossing the road. -- Tony Bailey Mercury Travel Books |
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"Not the Karl Orff" wrote in message news:canwine-
I wager more Aussies die from spiders in..... 6 months than Canadians from wolves in the past 20 years Overseas visitors to Queensland may find the reasons for hospital visits listed here of interest- http://www.qtic.com.au/documents/WILKS2_000.pdf As one might expect, the major risk is MVAs! -- Tony Bailey Mercury Travel Books |
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"Not the Karl Orff" wrote in message news:canwine-
I wager more Aussies die from spiders in..... 6 months than Canadians from wolves in the past 20 years For those interested in snake bite treatment - http://www.rfds.org.au/monographs/snakebite.pdf This paper seems to suggest that snake bite treatment is so advanced in Australia, that, if you must be bitten - Australia, in the vicinity of a hospital, is probably the safest place to have it happen - BTW 2.6 deaths per year - MVA about 3 000! -- Tony Bailey Mercury Travel Books |
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"Tony Bailey" wrote in message
... "Not the Karl Orff" wrote in message news:canwine- I wager more Aussies die from spiders in..... 6 months than Canadians from wolves in the past 20 years For those interested in snake bite treatment - http://www.rfds.org.au/monographs/snakebite.pdf I liked the following section: Snake bite sometimes follows alcohol consumption. This can make initial management difficult. Stories of drunks and snakes abound, and a favourite true one is of a drunken man who was bitten by a Brown Snake and so returned the compliment. He arrived in casualty holding a well-chewed snake and promptly collapsed, having succumbed to the combined effects of alcohol and snake venom. LOL! Tom P.S. On my last rtip to Australia, I saw 4 snakes, all of which I think were Tiger Snakes. This was during a 10 day trip to the SW corner of WA. We came across them hiking, and in all instances they slithered away very quickly - they were not going to hang around. Of course, we took the precaution of walking with very heavy footsteps when we were in or near long grass or thick overgrowth. This paper seems to suggest that snake bite treatment is so advanced in Australia, that, if you must be bitten - Australia, in the vicinity of a hospital, is probably the safest place to have it happen - BTW 2.6 deaths per year - MVA about 3 000! -- Tony Bailey Mercury Travel Books |
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"Tony Bailey" writes:
"Not the Karl Orff" wrote in message news:canwine- I wager more Aussies die from spiders in..... 6 months than Canadians from wolves in the past 20 years For those interested in snake bite treatment - http://www.rfds.org.au/monographs/snakebite.pdf This paper seems to suggest that snake bite treatment is so advanced in Australia, that, if you must be bitten - Australia, in the vicinity of a hospital, is probably the safest place to have it happen - Because treatment with antivenene is now the norm, and is highly effective. Even the exceedingly neurotoxic venom secreted by sea snakes can be treated with the antinvenene for the land-based tiger snake. Same deal with funnelweb bites. Not many deaths from sea wasps these days, either. Most jellyfish stings can be neutralised with vinegar, which is why you see large plastic bottles of the stuff on beaches along the east coast. But there's always sal****er crocodiles. Crocodylus porosus still gets a few tourists every year. Mike McBain Melbourne, Australia |
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Not the Karl Orff wrote in message ...
uh no, You are perpetuating myths. No one has been killed by wolves in Canada for a generation or 2. Dogs, definitewly, dingoes definitely, but not wolves. Oh, that does it. I'm never going north of the border again--Cujo the Dingo might kill me! Back to the question of dangerous critters... Yes, there is an amazing diversity of them in Australia. But I think the real problem is that people tend to leave their common sense or alertness behind when they go on vacation. Kathy my guess is that BC has poison ivy/oak/sumac, or venomous spiders, or hornet nests, etc. Yet both you and your nephew are still alive. The odds are strongly in your favor of returning from Australia unscathed as well--provided you don't assume "I'm on vacation! I can poke around blindly under rocks!" If you're really worried, go ahead and do a quick bed check for peace of mind (even here in North America, summertime means I do a quick night check for earwigs on the sheet and mosquitoes on the walls, and a quick morning check for spiders before I take a shower) and use a flashlight if you head to the bathroom in the middle of the night. Nancy |
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