American Airlines discloses personal data

"mtravelkay" wrote in message
om...

The government doesn't have a right to
gather data on all of its citizens for the purpose of finding someone
that might commit a crime. They are free to look at my records if they
have a reasonable reason to suspect me of criminal activity.


Of course they do. Take taxes for example. Doesn't the government gather
data from every citizen regarding income and witholdings for the sole
purpose of making sure you don't commit tax evasion? Otherwise the IRS
would just have to trust us to send in the correct amount and they could not
obtain our financial records unless they had a reason to suspect we weren't
paying the correct amount.

Or how about when you go to get a drivers license and they finger print you?
Why do they do this? In case you commit a crime!!

It's the exact same thing and I'm sure there are many more examples of it,
these are just two I could think of off top of my head.

Matt

Matt wrote:
I still don't get it. Why would you care if the government or some sub
contractor knows that you flew from city X to city Y on date Z?

Because the personal record contains much more than just your flight number.
It contains contact information, (in case you die for instance), passport
number for intl flights, your meal preferences, FF number and full payment information.


Not like
they are giving out your credit card #s or Social Security numbers.

Yes, they are giving out your credit card number. And because the USA
government lacks strict data privacy laws, the data is easily given out to
subcontractors etc etc.

personal information I want being spread around.....so save the weak
slippery slope argument.

Go look at what the current regime wants. Their plan is total information
awareness. They have stated that they want to capture all credit card
transactions so that they can study certain transaction patterns in the hopes
of finding suspicuious activity.

So, how exactly does it harm you if someone knows or keeps track of your
travel itinerary?

It isn't just the travel itinerary. And for all the claims the USA has made
about its constitution protecting rights and liberty, I am amazed that
americans do not user their "right to bear arms" to throw out a rogue
government whose matra is to break your privacy.

"nobody" wrote in message
...
Matt wrote:
I still don't get it. Why would you care if the government or some sub
contractor knows that you flew from city X to city Y on date Z?

Because the personal record contains much more than just your flight
number.
It contains contact information, (in case you die for instance), passport
number for intl flights, your meal preferences, FF number and full payment
information.
personal information I want being spread around.....so save the weak
slippery slope argument.

Go look at what the current regime wants. Their plan is total information
awareness. They have stated that they want to capture all credit card
transactions so that they can study certain transaction patterns in the
hopes
of finding suspicuious activity.

Look, I admit that this all sounds a little Big Brotherish, and I'd prefer
to live in a world where all this information wasn't tracked, but I can
understand the need to collect some basic information on travellers. I
would definately prefer it if they didn't include the credit card number
simply because it increases the chance of fraud. But the rest of the
information I don't really care and it's not like it's hard to get ahold of
credit card numbers anyway. I also would agree that there should be some
controls over how this information is given out since there is potential for
abuse.

Would you prefer that they just let us all travel anonymously? Of course
that is not an option.

So, how exactly does it harm you if someone knows or keeps track of your
travel itinerary?

It isn't just the travel itinerary. And for all the claims the USA has
made
about its constitution protecting rights and liberty, I am amazed that
americans do not user their "right to bear arms" to throw out a rogue
government whose matra is to break your privacy.

I think you're views are a little tainted from your hatred of Bush.
Americans will use their right to vote to elect Bush for 4 more years....the
thought of that should make your head explode.

Matt

Matt wrote:
Look, I admit that this all sounds a little Big Brotherish, and I'd prefer
to live in a world where all this information wasn't tracked,


Would you prefer that they just let us all travel anonymously? Of course
that is not an option.


If we were 20 years back, such statements would apply to the Soviet Union. Now
it applies to the United States of America. Think carefully about where you
want your country to be heading.

"nobody" wrote in message
...
Matt wrote:
Look, I admit that this all sounds a little Big Brotherish, and I'd
prefer
to live in a world where all this information wasn't tracked,


Would you prefer that they just let us all travel anonymously? Of
course
that is not an option.


If we were 20 years back, such statements would apply to the Soviet Union.
Now
it applies to the United States of America. Think carefully about where
you
want your country to be heading.

I agree....it is a fine line and we need to watch the government to make
sure they don't go to far. And don't get me wrong, I think the government
does go to far in some cases, but with regards to this topic specifically,
in my opinion at least, doesn't go too far. Maybe I will change my mind in
the future if things change for the worse.

Matt

Matt wrote:
sure they don't go to far. And don't get me wrong, I think the government
does go to far in some cases, but with regards to this topic specifically,
in my opinion at least, doesn't go too far. Maybe I will change my mind in
the future if things change for the worse.

Your government have stated their goal of total information awareness. They
have alredy begun to cause a lot of trouble to anyone trying to fly if their
name is anywhere near the name on their secret list. They have wrongly
imprisoned thousands of americans, and even more residents with valid
visas/green cards with no access to lawyers. I realise you don't beleive this
because yoru media haven't discussed this. But all around the world, there are
stories of this.

And lets not get into the Gantanamo concentration camp. They even held
teenagers for over a year in the same prison as adults. Again, with no
charges, no legal recourse, no access to lawyers. And that included citizens
of your only loyal terrier: The Bliar govermment.

If you don't think that they have gone beyond the "line", then please define
where you would draw the line. And make sure you tell your regime that they
better not exceed that line, but to them, they havbe use the threath of
terrorism to justify passing the patriot act which essentially lifts many
sections of the constitution.

Do you really want to live in a country that is in a perpetual state of war ?

It isn't so long ago that governments in Canada and USA admitted to the
serious mistakes done in the 2nd world war with respects to wrongful detension
of humans of japanese origin. And the USA is at it again, this time with arabs.

Yawn.....your rantings really are tiring to read. What is there a website
somewhere where you people go and copy/paste this stuff? Try having an
original thought. You obviously don't like the US. By the way, what
country are you from?

Detainees in Guantanamo......don't care. I'm pretty confident that there is
a good reason behind each and every one of them that's being held. If a few
of them are being held improperly, well that's a bad thing, but don't care.
Do we toss out the whole criminal justice system because there is a small
chance of an innocent person going to jail?

Japanese detention camps....don't care. Sure it was a bad thing to have
done, but civil liberties some times have to take a back seat to national
security.

Oh...you forgot to bring up slavery?

The one point I will agree with you on is the no-fly list. I don't have a
problem with the no fly list in principal, but doesn't sound like there is
any recourse for those improperly placed on the list, which is wrong.

Where do I draw the line?? Well, in the context of this topic, I would draw
the line if we had to get permission from our government to travel
somewhere. I would draw the line at racial profiling. I would draw the
line at unreasonable searches during security screenings. There are lots of
things the government could do in the name of security but doesn't because
it would go over the line.

Matt



"nobody" wrote in message
...
Matt wrote:
sure they don't go to far. And don't get me wrong, I think the
government
does go to far in some cases, but with regards to this topic
specifically,
in my opinion at least, doesn't go too far. Maybe I will change my mind
in
the future if things change for the worse.

Your government have stated their goal of total information awareness.
They
have alredy begun to cause a lot of trouble to anyone trying to fly if
their
name is anywhere near the name on their secret list. They have wrongly
imprisoned thousands of americans, and even more residents with valid
visas/green cards with no access to lawyers. I realise you don't beleive
this
because yoru media haven't discussed this. But all around the world, there
are
stories of this.

And lets not get into the Gantanamo concentration camp. They even held
teenagers for over a year in the same prison as adults. Again, with no
charges, no legal recourse, no access to lawyers. And that included
citizens
of your only loyal terrier: The Bliar govermment.

If you don't think that they have gone beyond the "line", then please
define
where you would draw the line. And make sure you tell your regime that
they
better not exceed that line, but to them, they havbe use the threath of
terrorism to justify passing the patriot act which essentially lifts many
sections of the constitution.

Do you really want to live in a country that is in a perpetual state of
war ?

It isn't so long ago that governments in Canada and USA admitted to the
serious mistakes done in the 2nd world war with respects to wrongful
detension
of humans of japanese origin. And the USA is at it again, this time with
arabs.

Matt wrote:

Yawn.....your rantings really are tiring to read. What is there a website
somewhere where you people go and copy/paste this stuff? Try having an
original thought. You obviously don't like the US. By the way, what
country are you from?

Sweetie, before wasting your time arguing with some psycho on usenet, it pays to
do a little research to find out who he is. JF isn't paying any attention to
you. He's too busy trolling with one hand and wanking with the other:

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
About
JF MEZEI

(Rev. Mar. 28, 2004)

1. Who is JF Mezei?

Jean-Francois Mezei is the worst netkook and megatroll to have ever hit
rec.travel.air and various other usenet newsgroups. He is also one of the
longest running trolls in usenet history.

***WARNING: JF MEZEI IS A ROGUE CANCELLER. HE FORGES THE NAME AND E-MAIL
ADDRESS OF USENET POSTERS HE DOES NOT AGREE WITH AND CANCELS THEIR MESSAGES.***

If you participate in the same newsgroups he does, you should monitor the
control.cancel newsgroup. If you find that he has cancelled your messages,
forward a copies of them to Ralph Doncaster of Istop at .

2. How long has he been trolling?

For well over a decade.

3. Where does he live?

Montreal, Quebec, Canada

Jean-Francois Mezei
86 Harwood Gate
Beaconsfield, QC H9W3A3
(514) 695-8259

His current e-mail address is

4. What makes him such a malicious troll?

His trolling is constant, repetitious, relentless. Once he invades your
newsgroup he will stay for decades, troll around the clock, day in and day out,
every day of the year, for years and years on end. He does not listen to pleas
to stop, he does not listen to anything anyone tells him, he does not pay
attention when the misinformation/disinformation he posts is corrected, he just
goes right on trolling year in, year out like a little child holding his ears
closed while yelling "I can't hear you, I can't hear anything you say!"

5. What does he troll about?

His favorite subjects are USA-bashing and anything to do with sex. He hates the
USA and Americans and will hijack any thread and turn it into a USA-bashing
fest. If he can't do that then he'll just start making lewd posts.

6. What does he hate about the USA?

Everything! He is part of a larger group of Canadian trolls who have a visceral
hatred of the USA, motivated by envy mostly. The USA is a happier, better, more
successful version of their country and they can't stand it. Some of JF's
favorite troll bait is "the Bush regime", "the Bush-Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz axis of
evil", "Americans are brainwashed", "Cars are evil", "SUVs are evil", "all
Americans are stupid" etc.

7. What about his sexual trolling?

Ah, that is JF at his trolling best. No sexual topic is too bizarre. Among his
favorites are child sexuality, masturbation, women's genitalia, sex toys,
circumcision, the sex lives of Americans (of course) ... the list is endless.

8. Circumcision???

Yes, JF trolled the circumcision newsgroups for years. He still likes to insert
circumcision into his trolling every now and then. Apparently, JF was
traumatized as a child because his parents, poor Hungarian immigrants to Canada,
left him uncircumcised when he was born, as is the custom in most of the world.
Growing up in Canada where male infant circumcision was prevalent at the time,
he was psychologically scarred (so he claims). As soon as he could he arranged
to get himself snipped, and then joined the brigades of circumcision
proselytizers in the newsgroups advocating the joys of a free willy. His main
argument is how much better he was able to masturbate after getting circumcised
without that "pesky foreskin" getting in the way of his enjoyment, and he has
made it his mission in life to spread the circumcision gospel.

9. What's his interest in child sexuality? That sounds kind of freaky.

Well, everything having to do with Mezei *is* freaky. Among the subjects dear
to his heart are the genitals of little boys and girls, especially little boy's
foreskins (and how tight they are) and little girls' hymens. He is also a
tireless activist and advocate that children should be taught to masturbate
early on so that they don't grow up "sexually repressed like Americans".

He also counsels all parents of boys that they constantly check their little
boys' penises and foreskins frequently to ensure a good fit, proper movement,
and that they be able to masturbate with no problems. Utopia for JF would be a
world full of parents manipulating their little boys' penises.

10. Ewww! This guy is sounding more and more disgusting by the minute! Are
you sure about all this stuff?

Yes, you can check the google archives for yourself. There's over a decade full
of Mezei trolling in there.

11. How can I find all that out, doesn't he change aliases all the time like
all trolls do?

Of course! See the appendix below for a list of many of his known trolling
aliases.

12. So where does this guy get so much time to troll, doesn't he work?

Ha ha ha! JF hasn't worked a day in his life! He's an adult baby, a grown man
who still lives at home with mommy and sleeps all day and trolls the newsgroups
all night. In his free time when he isn't trolling he likes to ride his bike
down to Dorval Airport and race the planes down the runway in his bike.

13. That seems strange, is he mentally ill or something?

Bingo! JF is a boy in a grown man's body. Psychologically he never got past
the age of 13 and got stuck in a world of bathroom humor (i.e. "pull my
finger!") and locker room antics that he has never been able to outgrow.

14. Speaking of locker rooms, I heard he has a sexual fetish about them, is
that true?

Yes! JF goes to the gym not to work out but to watch men in the locker room.
He loves to post about the male sexual organs he has seen in locker rooms over
the years, especially his unnatural obsession with foreskins. He stalks the men
in locker rooms trying to measure how much foreskin they have, or how little is
left if they have been circumcised. He gets extremely excited when he spots a
case of phimosis.

15. Oh my Gawd, this guy is nuts! He should be locked up in an insane asylum!

Yep, JF is certifiably insane. He lives in a black helicopter / tin foil hat
world where others are out to get him. The key to understanding JF is that he
sees himself as a VICTIM. To JF the world is out to get him, especially the
USA. Victimhood is what JF is all about.

What seems to have sent him over the edge was when the Canadian rail system was
"killed", in his words. He used to be a major train nut, spotting trains,
writing down their numbers and chasing them down at the train yard like a good
freak. Then he turned his attention to aviation. Major events that made him
fall head first deep into the abyss were the bankruptcy of Canadian Airlines and
their subsequent takeover by Air Canada (whom he sees as evil). So paranoid is
he that when an Air Canada plane crashed he claimed that Air Canada employees
went lurking about in the night with buckets of white paint to cover up the Air
Canada markings. He saw that as symbolic of a cover up of the crash
investigation. He has never recovered from this.

16. Where else does he hang out, I want to avoid him!

His main haunt on usenet is comp.os.vms, a newsgroup dedicated to some ancient,
arcane, obsolete piece of vax crapware that nobody has taken seriously for
decades. JF hangs out there with other misfits and social dropouts who share
his psychological traumas, crying for the good old vax days of yore. It's
really pathetic!

17. Where else does he hang out?

can.internet.highspeed, alt.cellular.fido, and a few other geeky computer
groups. For a while after the Shuttle Columbia disaster he invaded the
sci.space groups, sci.space.shuttle in particular, and trolled it relentlessly
with the anti-American, conspiracy theory crap he's so famous for. But they ran
him off that group and he had to go crawling back to comp.os.vms with his tail
between his legs, licking his wounds.

18. It sounds like comp.os.vms is the only group he respects and doesn't troll.

Pretty much. For a megatroll like JF it's impossible not to troll, so he slips
in troll bait every now and then, but by and large he respects comp.os.vms, and,
more importantly, he tries to hide his trolling activities from them so they
won't find out what a major netkook he is.

19. Wow, sounds like he should be exposed so they will know what kind of psycho
he is!

Exactly. Feel free to post all his trolls to comp.os.vms. And while you're at
it post them to can.internet.highspeed and alt.cellular.fido too. And to
alt.usenet.kooks, a group for the likes of JF, and news.admin.net-abuse.usenet.

20. What else can I do? Is there an abuse address?

Yes, you should send complaints along with copies of his troll posts to:





For personal attention, you may contact Ralph Doncaster at Istop directly at
.

And feel free to distribute this FAQ freely. Post it to newsgroups, email it to
people, you may host it at your own website, send it to newspapers and magazines
that do Internet articles or anything to do with Montreal or Canada, etc.


*** APPENDIX ***

List of some of the many trolling aliases used by Mezei over the years. This is
only a partial list, he has so many it's impossible to compile a full list.






[nospam]

nobody
nobody
nobody
nobody
nobody
nobody
nobody
Lorenna Bobbit
Lando Calrisian
muklak
Sheep skin
snowy squirrel
Conspiracy Theory
Lou Raccoon
Flapping Labias
Throbbing vulva
Twin Gonads
Loose Scrotum
Raised Organ
Popped Cherry
Monica Lewinski
Deep Fried Foreskin
Aroma of Smegma
Wet fart
Pubic dandruff
Voluptuous Nipple
Inserted Finger
Pubic Nair
Flatulent Meatus
Lihk Mhygroin
Pre Khum
Phi Mosis
Bal Anatis
Fren Ullum
Ivanna Getlaid
Ivanna Wankalot
Ivanna Umpalot
Wan Tnoneofit
Wan Itbad
Wan Towank
Wan Tolik
Testos Terone
Upper Gonad
Right Gonad
Left Gonad
Tyson's Glands
Nose Hair
Coronal Sulcus
Corpus Cavernus
Armpit moisture
Onani Room
Arnie's Banana
Raised eyebrows
Vas Deferens
Naked Canuck
Arni's socks
Notable Exception
Unpopped Cherry
Tatooed Ovaries
Pierced eyelid
Limp Tomato
Eggplant Earrings
Banana Underpants
Naval Lint
Ingrown Toenail
Empty Stomach
Full Stomach
Smelly Cat
Torn Ligament
Art Tistic
Furry Raccoon
Wet Racoon
Mad Racoon
Lazy Racoon
Eaten Racoon
Happy Raccoon
Sleeping Racoon
Hungry Racoon
Horny Raccoon
Smart Raccoon
George W Raccoon
Ronald McRaccoon
Thirsty Raccoon
Johnny Raccoon
Oshi Santo
Oishi Chinko
T.Yellow
Q
Borg Queen
Ronald Wilkerson
John Balterman

*DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY*

Matt wrote:


"mtravelkay" wrote in message
. com...
Matt wrote:

I still don't get it. Why would you care if the government or some sub
contractor knows that you flew from city X to city Y on date Z? Not
like
they are giving out your credit card #s or Social Security numbers.
It's
just a travel itinerary. Of course there are limits on what kind of
personal information I want being spread around.....so save the weak
slippery slope argument.

So, how exactly does it harm you if someone knows or keeps track of your
travel itinerary?

Why does the government need to know my travel itinerary in advance of
me being suspected of a crime?

I don't have a problem with the government and airlines using an itenerary
and other factors to determine if a passenger
should get extra screening or not. If a passenger shows up at the Beirut
Airport and pays cash for a one way ticket to Washington DC, then I'm sorry,
but that guy should get some extra screening. Obviously you don't agree, so
we will just have to disagree on that point.

Perhaps I don't want them to know I have
a habit of flying to cities where pro or anti fill in the blank
meetings are being held. Maybe I don't want them to know that every 4
years I always fly to the city of the fill in the blank National
Convention is being held, during the same time period of the convention.
After all, they might draw the conclusion that I belong to the fill in
name Party. They don't need to know what library books I check out, or
what foreign languages I am learning.


Seriously......are you really truly worried about that happening to you??

Matt

You must be new here. "mtravelkay" is another psycho troll/netkook, like
Mezei.....

About Rogue Cisco Employee Michael "mrtravelkay" Voight,
a.k.a. the "mrtravel" Netkook Troll/Usenet Flooder

***WARNING: THIS IDIOT HAS BEEN CAUGHT FORGING PEOPLE'S IDENTITIES ON USENET
AND CANCELLING THEIR POSTS.***

"mrtavelkay" is the latest usenet handle of a brainless troll whose real name is
Michael Voight, email .

He is better known by his previous stupid handle, "mrtravel".

The idiot works for Cisco in San Jose and apparently they don't
keep him busy enough so he has to troll usenet when he isn't
looking for foreign brides to marry in exchange for money
in alt.visa.us.marriage-based and alt.personals.big-folks, or trying
to pick up minors in alt.personals.teens or any of the number of creepy
newsgroups he frequents. Some of his other trolling aliases are Network
Guy, , sleepydoc , jlhunt
, and Lost 5 of 8 , mrt ,
news.sf.sbcglobal.net , not-nomen
, David Tanner
, Jeff Davies , BobTheBuilder
.

All intelligent members of the usenet community have killfiled him, so he takes
great pains to get past their killfiles by rubbing his only two cerebral neurons
together and coming up with gems like: mrtrav , mrtrav3
, mrraveltay , and mrtravelkay
, and mtravelkay and ""a.a\"@a,a,a.
The lastest product of his brain diarrhea is Bill Clarkj
.

He seems to like to hang out in alt.sex.preteen. Hmmm....

His phone numbers are 831-295-3628 and 831-252-2606.

He's got a daughter in Orange County that one of his ex-wives had the
intelligence to take away from him. Lord only knows what could have
happened to her if she had continued to live with the kook. The other kids
he has belong to his previous Russian sleazy brides, and since they come
and go so do the kids. It wouldn't hurt to let Cisco know what kind of
deviant sexual pervert maniac they have working for them, so....

For starters, forward his idiotic posts to .

He works in technical support, so forward them to .

He often posts through sbcglobal and prodigy, so forward them to
and as well.

You can also call them at 1 800 553 2447 and ask to speak with a supervisor
and explain that you are EXTREMELY unhappy that this idiot spends his whole
day at work playing on the internet on company time. THEY WILL NOT LIKE
THAT.

Then write to corporate headquarters explaining what this idiot is doing
and telling them HOW BAD IT IS FOR THEIR COMPANY IMAGE. They will LOVE
that you brought this to their attention:

Cisco Systems, Inc.
170 West Tasman Dr.
San Jose, CA 95134
USA

Then also call them. You should always follow up email or letters with
phone calls. Always ask for supervisors or managers. Try to get as far up
as possible.

(408)526-4000
(800)553-NETS or
(800)553-6387

Contact Investor Relations and tell them you are interested in investing in
their company but won't do so until they get rid of this asshole who is
wasting company resources:

Cisco Systems, Inc.
Investor Relations Department
170 West Tasman Drive
San Jose, CA 95134-1706
Phone: (408) 526-8890
Fax: (408) 526-4545
Email:

Might as well contact customer service too, they LOVE to hear about this
type of stuff:

USA 1 800 553 6387




Then finally, send letters with copies of his nasty posts addressed
personally to each one of the OFFICERS of the company using the
headquarters address. Believe me, they READ your complaints and are VERY
INTERESTED in them, especially if it's about one of their employees. They
will take a PERSONAL interest in rooting this ASSHOLE out of their company:

John Morgridge, Chairman
John Chambers, President, CEO
Donald Valentine, Vice Chairman
Larry Carter, CFO, Sr. VP-Fin. and Admin., Sec., Director
Richard Justice, Sr. VP, Worldwide Field Operations

Have fun!

Matt wrote:

"mtravelkay" wrote in message
. com...
Matt wrote:

I still don't get it. Why would you care if the government or some sub
contractor knows that you flew from city X to city Y on date Z? Not
like
they are giving out your credit card #s or Social Security numbers.
It's
just a travel itinerary. Of course there are limits on what kind of
personal information I want being spread around.....so save the weak
slippery slope argument.

So, how exactly does it harm you if someone knows or keeps track of your
travel itinerary?

Why does the government need to know my travel itinerary in advance of
me being suspected of a crime?

I don't have a problem with the government and airlines using an itenerary
and other factors to determine if a passenger
should get extra screening or not. If a passenger shows up at the Beirut
Airport and pays cash for a one way ticket to Washington DC, then I'm sorry,
but that guy should get some extra screening. Obviously you don't agree, so
we will just have to disagree on that point.

Perhaps I don't want them to know I have
a habit of flying to cities where pro or anti fill in the blank
meetings are being held. Maybe I don't want them to know that every 4
years I always fly to the city of the fill in the blank National
Convention is being held, during the same time period of the convention.
After all, they might draw the conclusion that I belong to the fill in
name Party. They don't need to know what library books I check out, or
what foreign languages I am learning.


Seriously......are you really truly worried about that happening to you??

Matt

You must be new here. "mtravelkay" is another psycho troll/netkook, like
Mezei.....

About Rogue Cisco Employee Michael "mrtravelkay" Voight,
a.k.a. the "mrtravel" Netkook Troll/Usenet Flooder

***WARNING: THIS IDIOT HAS BEEN CAUGHT FORGING PEOPLE'S IDENTITIES ON USENET
AND CANCELLING THEIR POSTS.***

"mrtavelkay" is the latest usenet handle of a brainless troll whose real name is
Michael Voight, email .

He is better known by his previous stupid handle, "mrtravel".

The idiot works for Cisco in San Jose and apparently they don't
keep him busy enough so he has to troll usenet when he isn't
looking for foreign brides to marry in exchange for money
in alt.visa.us.marriage-based and alt.personals.big-folks, or trying
to pick up minors in alt.personals.teens or any of the number of creepy
newsgroups he frequents. Some of his other trolling aliases are Network
Guy, , sleepydoc , jlhunt
, and Lost 5 of 8 , mrt ,
news.sf.sbcglobal.net , not-nomen
, David Tanner
, Jeff Davies , BobTheBuilder
.

All intelligent members of the usenet community have killfiled him, so he takes
great pains to get past their killfiles by rubbing his only two cerebral neurons
together and coming up with gems like: mrtrav , mrtrav3
, mrraveltay , and mrtravelkay
, and mtravelkay and ""a.a\"@a,a,a.
The lastest product of his brain diarrhea is Bill Clarkj
.

He seems to like to hang out in alt.sex.preteen. Hmmm....

His phone numbers are 831-295-3628 and 831-252-2606.

He's got a daughter in Orange County that one of his ex-wives had the
intelligence to take away from him. Lord only knows what could have
happened to her if she had continued to live with the kook. The other kids
he has belong to his previous Russian sleazy brides, and since they come
and go so do the kids. It wouldn't hurt to let Cisco know what kind of
deviant sexual pervert maniac they have working for them, so....

For starters, forward his idiotic posts to .

He works in technical support, so forward them to .

He often posts through sbcglobal and prodigy, so forward them to
and as well.

You can also call them at 1 800 553 2447 and ask to speak with a supervisor
and explain that you are EXTREMELY unhappy that this idiot spends his whole
day at work playing on the internet on company time. THEY WILL NOT LIKE
THAT.

Then write to corporate headquarters explaining what this idiot is doing
and telling them HOW BAD IT IS FOR THEIR COMPANY IMAGE. They will LOVE
that you brought this to their attention:

Cisco Systems, Inc.
170 West Tasman Dr.
San Jose, CA 95134
USA

Then also call them. You should always follow up email or letters with
phone calls. Always ask for supervisors or managers. Try to get as far up
as possible.

(408)526-4000
(800)553-NETS or
(800)553-6387

Contact Investor Relations and tell them you are interested in investing in
their company but won't do so until they get rid of this asshole who is
wasting company resources:

Cisco Systems, Inc.
Investor Relations Department
170 West Tasman Drive
San Jose, CA 95134-1706
Phone: (408) 526-8890
Fax: (408) 526-4545
Email:

Might as well contact customer service too, they LOVE to hear about this
type of stuff:

USA 1 800 553 6387




Then finally, send letters with copies of his nasty posts addressed
personally to each one of the OFFICERS of the company using the
headquarters address. Believe me, they READ your complaints and are VERY
INTERESTED in them, especially if it's about one of their employees. They
will take a PERSONAL interest in rooting this ASSHOLE out of their company:

John Morgridge, Chairman
John Chambers, President, CEO
Donald Valentine, Vice Chairman
Larry Carter, CFO, Sr. VP-Fin. and Admin., Sec., Director
Richard Justice, Sr. VP, Worldwide Field Operations

Have fun!