Hawaii recommendations for 2 week stay? Maui and [??]

"Marior" wrote in message
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(snip) I like all types of food just not that are likely to cause
intestinal
problems for the duration of the holiday and possibly much more serious
including hepatitis.

Get your shots then. It's easy enough to do.
(snip)

"Marior" wrote in message
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Mexico has higher rates of murder of tourists more than a few that have
come
from where I live. Hawaii used to have much more of a marijuana grow
industry than they do now but its largely wiped out its primarily crystal
meth now just like on the continent.

Only naive tourists like you get themselves robbed and murdered.

Hawaii is a tourist microcosm, like Disneyland. It has one of the highest
larceny rates in the U.S.

I explored the islands entirely, got well of the beaten track and never
had
a problem. I didn't have a problem largely because I didn't act like an
ahole haole.

Sure you did. Well off the beaten track. What, did you venture off Waikiki
Beach and get all the way to the Dole House of Tourism? Or perhaps you did
the Polynesian Culture Center. Aren't you worldly.

Are you the local abusive troll around here and I somehow missed that? If
anybodys reading this please fill me in.

You're the troll here. Posting your "I never leave the safety of the
minimall" crap here in rec.scuba.locations where we routinely travel to the
remotest ends of the earth in search of the ultimate dive. Take it to
rec.cruises or rec.lawrence-welk if you want sympathy.

OK, I'll play. Manzanillo, Acapulco, Ixtapa, Puerto Vallarta, Mazatlan, to
name just a few and any other fly to destination that all the tourists
seem
to go.

"That all the tourists seem to go"

Since you never get off the beaten path, how would you know how many
tourists go elsewhere? Just because you're too afraid to visit Chitzen
Itza, do you really believe all the other tourists follow suit?

But I have no interest in running into the local drug cartel, or
insurgents,
or some roadside unauthorized checkpoint with semi-automatic rifles, or
meeting someone who would kill me in an instant because the cash in my
pocket was more than they'd earn in a year. Or crooked police, or
corrupt
jurispudence. Not to mention the potentially bad water or food found
outside the resorts.

God are you stupid.

you deny all of the above?

I don't deny that you're stupid.

But I have been off the beaten path in Mexico and I have yet to run into the
local drug cartel or insurgents. I have been stopped plenty of times at
authorized roadside checkpoints but since I wasn't carry drugs or guns I had
nothing to worry about. I'm smart enough not to hang out in the sorts of
places where someone would kill me in an instant because the cash in my
pocket was worth more than they'd earn in a year, but then I don't hang out
at those sorts of places in Los Angeles either. Crooked police don't bother
me since I don't do anything to get me caught. And when I do, I prefer
being let off with a small bribe rather than having to go to court to pay a
speeding fine.

If you think all food outside an all-inclusive is somehow harmful you're
really kidding yourself. All-inclusives have the worst food possible and
it's much more likely you'll get sick from some brat sneezing in the buffet
than from a well-prepared 'real' meal outside the walls. As for water, I
routinely drink bottled water at home so why would I want to chug tap water
in Mexico? Bottled water is cheap and easy to find there. Most hotels
supply purified or bottled water for use in the rooms, brushing teeth, etc.
On the other hand, given the nature of maintenance in Mexico, it's likely
that the filters 'purifying' the all-inclusive water supply haven't been
changed in years and the stuff you're drinking there is much worse than
anything I drink out of a bottle.

I like all types of food just not that are likely to cause intestinal
problems for the duration of the holiday and possibly much more serious
including hepatitis. Just Because I prefer a safe holiday for my family
you
see this as a reason to suggest I'm the type that doesn't get off tour
boats? Go on thinking whatever you want to think and I'll keep enjoying
my
safe exploration just the same. I guess that I prefer going to Hawaii
rather than Mexico because I CAN explore pretty much every region escapes
you.....

You can't explore every region. Try going to Niihau, for instance.

Regardless, it's not 'exploring' when you're walking the same paved paths as
all the other camera-laden, shorts-with-dark-socks wearing tourists. Have
you drove the back road from Hana? The West Maui Mountains? Or did you
skip the places that would "violate the rental car contract"? Figures.

That's perfectly fine with me, though. As long as you cruise-ship types
stay on the boat it will keep the true gems nice and quiet. I'll be
vacating in the real world, dodging bullets at every step.

"Marior" wrote in message
news:z3UKd.204953$Xk.195338@pd7tw3no...

Mexico has higher rates of murder of tourists more than a few that have
come
from where I live. Hawaii used to have much more of a marijuana grow
industry than they do now but its largely wiped out its primarily crystal
meth now just like on the continent.

Only naive tourists like you get themselves robbed and murdered.

Hawaii is a tourist microcosm, like Disneyland. It has one of the highest
larceny rates in the U.S.

I explored the islands entirely, got well of the beaten track and never
had
a problem. I didn't have a problem largely because I didn't act like an
ahole haole.

Sure you did. Well off the beaten track. What, did you venture off Waikiki
Beach and get all the way to the Dole House of Tourism? Or perhaps you did
the Polynesian Culture Center. Aren't you worldly.

Are you the local abusive troll around here and I somehow missed that? If
anybodys reading this please fill me in.

You're the troll here. Posting your "I never leave the safety of the
minimall" crap here in rec.scuba.locations where we routinely travel to the
remotest ends of the earth in search of the ultimate dive. Take it to
rec.cruises or rec.lawrence-welk if you want sympathy.

OK, I'll play. Manzanillo, Acapulco, Ixtapa, Puerto Vallarta, Mazatlan, to
name just a few and any other fly to destination that all the tourists
seem
to go.

"That all the tourists seem to go"

Since you never get off the beaten path, how would you know how many
tourists go elsewhere? Just because you're too afraid to visit Chitzen
Itza, do you really believe all the other tourists follow suit?

But I have no interest in running into the local drug cartel, or
insurgents,
or some roadside unauthorized checkpoint with semi-automatic rifles, or
meeting someone who would kill me in an instant because the cash in my
pocket was more than they'd earn in a year. Or crooked police, or
corrupt
jurispudence. Not to mention the potentially bad water or food found
outside the resorts.

God are you stupid.

you deny all of the above?

I don't deny that you're stupid.

But I have been off the beaten path in Mexico and I have yet to run into the
local drug cartel or insurgents. I have been stopped plenty of times at
authorized roadside checkpoints but since I wasn't carry drugs or guns I had
nothing to worry about. I'm smart enough not to hang out in the sorts of
places where someone would kill me in an instant because the cash in my
pocket was worth more than they'd earn in a year, but then I don't hang out
at those sorts of places in Los Angeles either. Crooked police don't bother
me since I don't do anything to get me caught. And when I do, I prefer
being let off with a small bribe rather than having to go to court to pay a
speeding fine.

If you think all food outside an all-inclusive is somehow harmful you're
really kidding yourself. All-inclusives have the worst food possible and
it's much more likely you'll get sick from some brat sneezing in the buffet
than from a well-prepared 'real' meal outside the walls. As for water, I
routinely drink bottled water at home so why would I want to chug tap water
in Mexico? Bottled water is cheap and easy to find there. Most hotels
supply purified or bottled water for use in the rooms, brushing teeth, etc.
On the other hand, given the nature of maintenance in Mexico, it's likely
that the filters 'purifying' the all-inclusive water supply haven't been
changed in years and the stuff you're drinking there is much worse than
anything I drink out of a bottle.

I like all types of food just not that are likely to cause intestinal
problems for the duration of the holiday and possibly much more serious
including hepatitis. Just Because I prefer a safe holiday for my family
you
see this as a reason to suggest I'm the type that doesn't get off tour
boats? Go on thinking whatever you want to think and I'll keep enjoying
my
safe exploration just the same. I guess that I prefer going to Hawaii
rather than Mexico because I CAN explore pretty much every region escapes
you.....

You can't explore every region. Try going to Niihau, for instance.

Regardless, it's not 'exploring' when you're walking the same paved paths as
all the other camera-laden, shorts-with-dark-socks wearing tourists. Have
you drove the back road from Hana? The West Maui Mountains? Or did you
skip the places that would "violate the rental car contract"? Figures.

That's perfectly fine with me, though. As long as you cruise-ship types
stay on the boat it will keep the true gems nice and quiet. I'll be
vacating in the real world, dodging bullets at every step.

"chilly" wrote in message
newsoUKd.205672$8l.37695@pd7tw1no...

(snip) I like all types of food just not that are likely to cause
intestinal
problems for the duration of the holiday and possibly much more serious
including hepatitis.

Get your shots then. It's easy enough to do.
(snip)

Obviously someone as practical as Marior would never subject his family to
needles. Vacations are supposed to be fun, aren't they?

BTW, did your Honduran malaria go away yet? It's nice and sunny here today
but I can't leave home because of West Nile Virus and the high crime rate in
Los Angeles County. I can look out the windows, though. All those crazy
people jogging by, risking twisting an ankle and getting hit by a car.

Besides, what virus would want to live in my liver?

"Greg Mossman" wrote in message
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"chilly" wrote in message
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Get your shots then. It's easy enough to do.
(snip)

Obviously someone as practical as Marior would never subject his family to
needles.

Apparently, since he's still worried about hepatitis.

Vacations are supposed to be fun, aren't they?

Mine certainly are.


BTW, did your Honduran malaria go away yet?

No, I had a reoccurance and now the super-meds side-effects are almost more
unpleasant than the illness.

It's nice and sunny here today

It has been lovely here for a couple of weeks now.

but I can't leave home because of West Nile Virus and the high crime rate
in
Los Angeles County. I can look out the windows, though.

Try not to get blinded by the light.

All those crazy
people jogging by, risking twisting an ankle and getting hit by a car.

Well, why don't you go jog up in the hills on the paths? I'm thinking a
little outside time might improve your mood. Or you could be doing a little
searching for a piece of paper that your mom saved and take your mind off of
pod-people wearing dark socks and sandals.


Besides, what virus would want to live in my liver?

Don't you mean what virus could live in your liver?

"TheNewsGuy(Mike)" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 10:29:30 -0800, "Greg Mossman"
wrote:

...
Nice pictures of hotels. Where are all the nice condos you rave about?


This is from the great condo we had at Ma'alalea on Maui.

http://tnguym.50megs.com/pages/MA_CondoBeach.htm

Great shots. What kind of camera do you use?

"TheNewsGuy(Mike)" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 10:29:30 -0800, "Greg Mossman"
wrote:

...
Nice pictures of hotels. Where are all the nice condos you rave about?


This is from the great condo we had at Ma'alalea on Maui.

http://tnguym.50megs.com/pages/MA_CondoBeach.htm

It fronted on 4 miles of sand beach. You can walk the length of this
beach right to Kihie. There are a lot of good deals to be had from
vrbo.com - contact owners directly and negotiate your own deal.

We did stay in a hotel in Waikiki at the front and end of our trip. 4
days in a hotel out of 21, The rest were in condo's

If anyone is interested we got a nice, decent room at The Ocean Resort
for under $70 per night - and we then learned they have an Ohana
(family) plan for repeat customers of $48/n. Highly recommend them.
It's right across the road from The Marriott, one block from the beach
and steps to their (fabulous bus system) stop on Kuhio St.



And Kuhio is still a good place to rent "a friend." ;^)

Seriously, glad you enjoyed your stay and nice photos.

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 10:29:30 -0800, "Greg Mossman"
wrote:

....
Nice pictures of hotels. Where are all the nice condos you rave about?


This is from the great condo we had at Ma'alalea on Maui.

http://tnguym.50megs.com/pages/MA_CondoBeach.htm

It fronted on 4 miles of sand beach. You can walk the length of this
beach right to Kihie. There are a lot of good deals to be had from
vrbo.com - contact owners directly and negotiate your own deal.

We did stay in a hotel in Waikiki at the front and end of our trip. 4
days in a hotel out of 21, The rest were in condo's

If anyone is interested we got a nice, decent room at The Ocean Resort
for under $70 per night - and we then learned they have an Ohana
(family) plan for repeat customers of $48/n. Highly recommend them.
It's right across the road from The Marriott, one block from the beach
and steps to their (fabulous bus system) stop on Kuhio St.




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"TheNewsGuy(Mike)" wrote in message
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This is from the great condo we had at Ma'alalea on Maui.

Looks a bit windy. The travel guides describe it as a windswept beach along
a working harbor town. How idyllic.

Were there lots of bugs? We ate at the Ma'alaea Waterfront Restaurant once,
which fronts one of the condos, and there were roaches everywhere. Food was
good, though.

If anyone is interested we got a nice, decent room at The Ocean Resort
for under $70 per night - and we then learned they have an Ohana
(family) plan for repeat customers of $48/n. Highly recommend them.
It's right across the road from The Marriott, one block from the beach
and steps to their (fabulous bus system) stop on Kuhio St.

I stayed at the Marriott once when they were offering 5 nights for $449,
ocean view room, and all the amenities, and for that we merely had to stop
by the time-share sales desk to pick up our 'gifts' (a discount card and
leis), no sales presentation necessary. The sushi bar there slices some
delicious toro.

"chilly" wrote in message
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"Marior" wrote in message
news:z3UKd.204953$Xk.195338@pd7tw3no...

(snip) I like all types of food just not that are likely to cause
intestinal
problems for the duration of the holiday and possibly much more serious
including hepatitis.

Get your shots then. It's easy enough to do.
(snip)

Good call, what was I thinking? I used a poor example. Any risk to those
shots? G

Just joking...really...