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Old August 25th, 2004, 04:56 PM
Elio
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I am in the planning stage for a fly and drive South African holiday
visiting Capetown, East coast, Garden Route and Kruger/other park in the
North. I'm concerned about safety in South Africa these days. Is it
reasonably safe to go there? We will be 4 people traveling from Italy.
Thanks
Elio



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Old August 26th, 2004, 01:50 AM
Dave Patterson
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It is reasonably safe, of course.
Several million South Africans of every
shade in the rainbow go about their
business every day, perfectly safely.

Roads on your route are as good as
they are in Italy, for sure. Relax.


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Old August 26th, 2004, 01:50 AM
Dave Patterson
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It is reasonably safe, of course.
Several million South Africans of every
shade in the rainbow go about their
business every day, perfectly safely.

Roads on your route are as good as
they are in Italy, for sure. Relax.


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Old August 27th, 2004, 07:40 PM
geotek
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I used a similar route with my wife, a friend and his wife with their young
son. Use standard precautions, meet some local folks; enjoy the food, wine,
and sights. My wife and I would like to make the same trip soon. As a US
citizen, I was drawn into many unwanted political discussions, but you
should not have that problem. Take the trip to the Cape, as well, and find
some vineyards to visit along the way.
You'll be asked to tip the "unofficial" parking lot attendants, especially
at night. I always did, but my South African friends NEVER tipped, and
actively encouraged me not to tip (but I did.)
geotek


"Elio" wrote in message
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I am in the planning stage for a fly and drive South African holiday
visiting Capetown, East coast, Garden Route and Kruger/other park in the
North. I'm concerned about safety in South Africa these days. Is it
reasonably safe to go there? We will be 4 people traveling from Italy.
Thanks
Elio





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Old August 27th, 2004, 07:40 PM
geotek
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I used a similar route with my wife, a friend and his wife with their young
son. Use standard precautions, meet some local folks; enjoy the food, wine,
and sights. My wife and I would like to make the same trip soon. As a US
citizen, I was drawn into many unwanted political discussions, but you
should not have that problem. Take the trip to the Cape, as well, and find
some vineyards to visit along the way.
You'll be asked to tip the "unofficial" parking lot attendants, especially
at night. I always did, but my South African friends NEVER tipped, and
actively encouraged me not to tip (but I did.)
geotek


"Elio" wrote in message
...
I am in the planning stage for a fly and drive South African holiday
visiting Capetown, East coast, Garden Route and Kruger/other park in the
North. I'm concerned about safety in South Africa these days. Is it
reasonably safe to go there? We will be 4 people traveling from Italy.
Thanks
Elio





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Old August 27th, 2004, 07:40 PM
geotek
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I used a similar route with my wife, a friend and his wife with their young
son. Use standard precautions, meet some local folks; enjoy the food, wine,
and sights. My wife and I would like to make the same trip soon. As a US
citizen, I was drawn into many unwanted political discussions, but you
should not have that problem. Take the trip to the Cape, as well, and find
some vineyards to visit along the way.
You'll be asked to tip the "unofficial" parking lot attendants, especially
at night. I always did, but my South African friends NEVER tipped, and
actively encouraged me not to tip (but I did.)
geotek


"Elio" wrote in message
...
I am in the planning stage for a fly and drive South African holiday
visiting Capetown, East coast, Garden Route and Kruger/other park in the
North. I'm concerned about safety in South Africa these days. Is it
reasonably safe to go there? We will be 4 people traveling from Italy.
Thanks
Elio





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Old August 30th, 2004, 08:33 AM
Marc Lurie
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 18:40:22 GMT, "geotek" wrote:

You'll be asked to tip the "unofficial" parking lot attendants, especially
at night. I always did, but my South African friends NEVER tipped, and
actively encouraged me not to tip (but I did.)


There are parking attendants, and there are parking attendants...

At a mall or shopping complex there are parking attendants who mill
around scrounging tips. Some of them are employed by a company or by
the mall itself. Some belong to a carwatch "program" that might supply
them with a bib or jacket, but nothing else. I refuse to tip any
attendant in a mall or shopping area. I believe that the mall should
do whatever is necessary to ensure the safety of my car, and I should
not have to tip someone for doing it.

Outside of malls, and particularly at night, I always tip the
attendant. The best way of ensuring that your car isn't broken into is
to speak with the attendant just after you have parked. Ask him his
name, and memorise it. When you get back to your car, call him by
name, and give him a tip. (I give R2 or R5). I guarantee that the next
time you park there, he will absolutely sure that your car is safe.

I visit a local restaurant fairly regularly, and the attendant knows
my car. I always tip, and I know that my car is perfectly safe.

Perhaps your SA friends were mostly Capetonians. They tend to be much
more tight fisted than Jo'burgers :-)

Regards,
Marc

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Old August 30th, 2004, 08:33 AM
Marc Lurie
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 18:40:22 GMT, "geotek" wrote:

You'll be asked to tip the "unofficial" parking lot attendants, especially
at night. I always did, but my South African friends NEVER tipped, and
actively encouraged me not to tip (but I did.)


There are parking attendants, and there are parking attendants...

At a mall or shopping complex there are parking attendants who mill
around scrounging tips. Some of them are employed by a company or by
the mall itself. Some belong to a carwatch "program" that might supply
them with a bib or jacket, but nothing else. I refuse to tip any
attendant in a mall or shopping area. I believe that the mall should
do whatever is necessary to ensure the safety of my car, and I should
not have to tip someone for doing it.

Outside of malls, and particularly at night, I always tip the
attendant. The best way of ensuring that your car isn't broken into is
to speak with the attendant just after you have parked. Ask him his
name, and memorise it. When you get back to your car, call him by
name, and give him a tip. (I give R2 or R5). I guarantee that the next
time you park there, he will absolutely sure that your car is safe.

I visit a local restaurant fairly regularly, and the attendant knows
my car. I always tip, and I know that my car is perfectly safe.

Perhaps your SA friends were mostly Capetonians. They tend to be much
more tight fisted than Jo'burgers :-)

Regards,
Marc

  #9  
Old September 1st, 2004, 05:04 AM
geotek
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You are exactly correct, Mr, Lurie! That is good advice.
I hope you enjoy your trip, Elio!
geotek


"Marc Lurie" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 18:40:22 GMT, "geotek" wrote:

You'll be asked to tip the "unofficial" parking lot attendants,

especially
at night. I always did, but my South African friends NEVER tipped, and
actively encouraged me not to tip (but I did.)


There are parking attendants, and there are parking attendants...

At a mall or shopping complex there are parking attendants who mill
around scrounging tips. Some of them are employed by a company or by
the mall itself. Some belong to a carwatch "program" that might supply
them with a bib or jacket, but nothing else. I refuse to tip any
attendant in a mall or shopping area. I believe that the mall should
do whatever is necessary to ensure the safety of my car, and I should
not have to tip someone for doing it.

Outside of malls, and particularly at night, I always tip the
attendant. The best way of ensuring that your car isn't broken into is
to speak with the attendant just after you have parked. Ask him his
name, and memorise it. When you get back to your car, call him by
name, and give him a tip. (I give R2 or R5). I guarantee that the next
time you park there, he will absolutely sure that your car is safe.

I visit a local restaurant fairly regularly, and the attendant knows
my car. I always tip, and I know that my car is perfectly safe.

Perhaps your SA friends were mostly Capetonians. They tend to be much
more tight fisted than Jo'burgers :-)

Regards,
Marc



  #10  
Old September 1st, 2004, 05:04 AM
geotek
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You are exactly correct, Mr, Lurie! That is good advice.
I hope you enjoy your trip, Elio!
geotek


"Marc Lurie" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 18:40:22 GMT, "geotek" wrote:

You'll be asked to tip the "unofficial" parking lot attendants,

especially
at night. I always did, but my South African friends NEVER tipped, and
actively encouraged me not to tip (but I did.)


There are parking attendants, and there are parking attendants...

At a mall or shopping complex there are parking attendants who mill
around scrounging tips. Some of them are employed by a company or by
the mall itself. Some belong to a carwatch "program" that might supply
them with a bib or jacket, but nothing else. I refuse to tip any
attendant in a mall or shopping area. I believe that the mall should
do whatever is necessary to ensure the safety of my car, and I should
not have to tip someone for doing it.

Outside of malls, and particularly at night, I always tip the
attendant. The best way of ensuring that your car isn't broken into is
to speak with the attendant just after you have parked. Ask him his
name, and memorise it. When you get back to your car, call him by
name, and give him a tip. (I give R2 or R5). I guarantee that the next
time you park there, he will absolutely sure that your car is safe.

I visit a local restaurant fairly regularly, and the attendant knows
my car. I always tip, and I know that my car is perfectly safe.

Perhaps your SA friends were mostly Capetonians. They tend to be much
more tight fisted than Jo'burgers :-)

Regards,
Marc



 




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