driving across the usa - the developments

thanks for all the advice so far
I am continuing to plan the trip over christmas / new year and have
fortunately gained an accomplice called Enen - she will share the driving
and partly the expense - though i suspect will go for more upmarket hotel
rooms than i might - the return fare - London to NY and return direct from
San fransisco to london was only £328 - so that was a reasonable deal - the
car hire is not so reasonable - £500 for the 3 weeks - but an extra $500 to
leave it at a different place to where you to pick it up - it means that
buying a car for a $1000 and selling it at the other end would be
cheaper..........
but i'm wondering the feasability of the enterprise now - I've looked at the
mileage involved - to New Orleans 2000 miles - arrive at 13/12/03 in NY - I
planned this trip with the idea that 200 miles a day was about right - you
can have a days driving and relax for a day - I've done a recalculation of
the planned route (New York to New Orleans to San Fransisco over 3 weeks )
and what I thought when I first looked at it was 4000 miles has now become
6000 miles - i confess to underestimating the size of your country - in the
planned southerly journey - it is 4700 miles from NY to SF - but that's the
cold northern roads - this means that the average becomes 300 miles a day -
probably on the extreme of being too much - so I am suggesting a possible
redefinition of The Adventure - see what you think:
131203 12:30 arrive in New York: pick up car to drive to Philadelphia - 170
miles - through the middle of new york and out to the other side (first
question: what's the best way of driving from JFK to the other side of NY
and still do it ( on a saturday) to see the city and the best bits and still
come out the other side heading for Philadelphia) - arrive evening - hotel
booked - its historic quarter.....
- we drive to New Orleans (2000 miles) - this is either Plan A: (13th to the
20th ) 7days (average 300 miles) or Plan B13th to the 23rd ) 10 days
(average 200 miles) - here we have the alternatives: to arrive for two days
in New Orleans :
Plan A: to carry on driving (from 21st -24th dec) for 3-4 days across Texas
for 1800 miles to El Paso
Plan B: leave car and FLY (on 24th) from New Orleans to El Paso - (you get
another 3 days taking it easier down the east coast/mountains) - miss out
the Texas completely (leave it like NY for another time) - miss out 1800
miles of driving - jump from NO to EP by plane - what do you think?
- the initial question is: is it probably going to be possible to do the
Appalachian Mountain route at that frozen time of year(and which set of
roads do you suggest) or do we have to go a more coastal direction........
- am i a wimp? - should i just get on the road and drive all the way? - it's
just about on the limit of pleasure - what do you think?........

It's a very BIG country,especially when you're driving coast to coast.
To give you some idea,the entire U.K. will fit inside the state of
Oregon.

R



On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 02:29:12 +0100, "rob tyler"
wrote:

i confess to underestimating the size of your country

this means that the average becomes 300 miles a day -
probably on the extreme of being too much

That won't leave much time for sightseeing, especially since
daylight hours are short in December.

Plus if you're unlucky and there's a snowstorm in the northern
states, it could easily put you way behind schedule. You might
want to consider a backup plan of flying from New York directly
to a southern state if the weather is bad.

James



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"rob tyler" staggered to the nearest
keyboard and wrote:

but i'm wondering the feasability of the enterprise now - I've looked at the
mileage involved - to New Orleans 2000 miles - arrive at 13/12/03 in NY - I
planned this trip with the idea that 200 miles a day was about right - you
can have a days driving and relax for a day - I've done a recalculation of
the planned route (New York to New Orleans to San Fransisco over 3 weeks )
and what I thought when I first looked at it was 4000 miles has now become
6000 miles - i confess to underestimating the size of your country - in the
planned southerly journey - it is 4700 miles from NY to SF - but that's the
cold northern roads - this means that the average becomes 300 miles a day -
probably on the extreme of being too much - so I am suggesting a possible
redefinition of The Adventure - see what you think:

I've not read the details of the route you're taking (not having the
patience to deal with text that denies the reader the aid of
conventional capitalization and punctuation); however, 300 miles a day
is not at all "extreme" by American standards.

You may want to plan your route so that you are mainly on the
Interstate highways, where you can cover the 300 miles in 4 or 5
hours, with diversions to places that you want to see more closely.
Often people will recommend that you avoid the Interstates because you
don't see the "real America." That's true to some extent but after
the 87th small town you'll probably long for a more expeditious route.


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Charles Hawtrey wrote:

"rob tyler" staggered to the nearest
keyboard and wrote:

I've not read the details of the route you're taking (not having the
patience to deal with text that denies the reader the aid of
conventional capitalization and punctuation); however, 300 miles a day
is not at all "extreme" by American standards.

Actually, I also got burned out and stopped reading. A new paragraph
every now and then would have helped as well.

Barbara

"rob tyler" wrote in message
...
thanks for all the advice so far
I am continuing to plan the trip over christmas / new year and have
fortunately gained an accomplice called Enen - she will share the driving
and partly the expense - though i suspect will go for more upmarket hotel
rooms than i might - the return fare - London to NY and return direct from
San fransisco to london was only £328 - so that was a reasonable deal -
the
car hire is not so reasonable - £500 for the 3 weeks - but an extra $500
to
leave it at a different place to where you to pick it up - it means that
buying a car for a $1000 and selling it at the other end would be
cheaper..........
but i'm wondering the feasability of the enterprise now - I've looked at
the
mileage involved - to New Orleans 2000 miles - arrive at 13/12/03 in NY -
I
planned this trip with the idea that 200 miles a day was about right - you
can have a days driving and relax for a day - I've done a recalculation of
the planned route (New York to New Orleans to San Fransisco over 3 weeks )
and what I thought when I first looked at it was 4000 miles has now become
6000 miles - i confess to underestimating the size of your country - in
the
planned southerly journey - it is 4700 miles from NY to SF - but that's
the
cold northern roads - this means that the average becomes 300 miles a
day -
probably on the extreme of being too much - so I am suggesting a possible
redefinition of The Adventure - see what you think:
131203 12:30 arrive in New York: pick up car to drive to Philadelphia -
170
miles - through the middle of new york and out to the other side (first
question: what's the best way of driving from JFK to the other side of NY
and still do it ( on a saturday) to see the city and the best bits and
still
come out the other side heading for Philadelphia) - arrive evening - hotel
booked - its historic quarter.....
- we drive to New Orleans (2000 miles) - this is either Plan A: (13th to
the
20th ) 7days (average 300 miles) or Plan B13th to the 23rd ) 10 days
(average 200 miles) - here we have the alternatives: to arrive for two
days
in New Orleans :
Plan A: to carry on driving (from 21st -24th dec) for 3-4 days across
Texas
for 1800 miles to El Paso
Plan B: leave car and FLY (on 24th) from New Orleans to El Paso - (you get
another 3 days taking it easier down the east coast/mountains) - miss out
the Texas completely (leave it like NY for another time) - miss out 1800
miles of driving - jump from NO to EP by plane - what do you think?
- the initial question is: is it probably going to be possible to do the
Appalachian Mountain route at that frozen time of year(and which set of
roads do you suggest) or do we have to go a more coastal
direction........
- am i a wimp? - should i just get on the road and drive all the way? -
it's
just about on the limit of pleasure - what do you think?........

I'm confused. Why are you coming to American and skipping New York City?
Would you expect a first time visitor to England to skip London?

PLAN C: Fly as much as you can and spend a few days in the Big Apple.

"Hiloman" wrote in message
t...
I'm confused. Why are you coming to American and skipping New York City?
Would you expect a first time visitor to England to skip London?

PLAN C: Fly as much as you can and spend a few days in the Big Apple.

- i thought i'd leave NY and surroundings for a separate trip to give it its
dues - besides, it'll probably be a bit chilly at christmas...

"rob tyler" wrote in message
...

Plan B: leave car and FLY (on 24th) from New Orleans to El Paso -

El Paso gets my vote as the ugliest city in the States. I'm too lazy to
read you earlier threads, but why would anyone be interested in El Paso?

Hiloman wrote:
El Paso gets my vote as the ugliest city in the States. I'm too lazy to
read you earlier threads, but why would anyone be interested in El Paso?

A jumping-off point for daytrips to scenic Ciudad Juarez?

miguel
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"Miguel Cruz" wrote in message
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Hiloman wrote:
El Paso gets my vote as the ugliest city in the States. I'm too lazy to
read you earlier threads, but why would anyone be interested in El Paso?

A jumping-off point for daytrips to scenic Ciudad Juarez?

miguel
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you said it miguel....