POSTS NO LONGER BEING ACCEPTED TO THIS NEWSGROUP

Dear Readers,

For three reasons, this moderated newsgroup is being suspended:

1. Most importantly, there are now two websites that do a very good job of
posting current consumer-oriented opinions about all-inclusive resorts:

http://www.debbiescaribbeanresortreviews.com/
and
http://www.tripadvisor.com/

2. We have been overwhelmed by spam lately, and I have to filter out at
least 10 junk messages for every on-topic post received.

3. Your moderator for the last four years has become frustrated that hackers
are now apparently able to circumvent the moderation and post off-topic
posts, and this defeats the purpose of having a moderated newsgroup.

Accordingly, I have decided to cease postings to this newsgroup.

Hal Segal, moderator
rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive

Hal,

You should check the usenet newsgroup charter, to see what action you
should take, instead of just unilaterally "disbanding" the
rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive newgroup. There are rules in place for
this kind of thing. I expect your three options within the charter are to:

1) Ask for a new moderator. I have been in other groups where the
moderated left, and a new moderator took over.

2) Set up automatic moderation, similiar to what you have now, but where
all posts must come from "pre-screened addresses". Anyone new wanting
to post needs to "sign up".

3) Ask for a vote amoung usenet "members" as to disband the nuewgroup or
not. This is similiar to the mechanism to start a new newsgroup.

Thank You,

Steven Goodman


Hal Segal wrote:

Dear Readers,

For three reasons, this moderated newsgroup is being suspended:

1. Most importantly, there are now two websites that do a very good job of
posting current consumer-oriented opinions about all-inclusive resorts:

http://www.debbiescaribbeanresortreviews.com/
and
http://www.tripadvisor.com/

2. We have been overwhelmed by spam lately, and I have to filter out at
least 10 junk messages for every on-topic post received.

3. Your moderator for the last four years has become frustrated that hackers
are now apparently able to circumvent the moderation and post off-topic
posts, and this defeats the purpose of having a moderated newsgroup.

Accordingly, I have decided to cease postings to this newsgroup.

Hal Segal, moderator
rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive

Or allow the group to remain unmoderated.


--
Dilly


"Steven Goodman" wrote in message
...
Hal,

You should check the usenet newsgroup charter, to see what action you
should take, instead of just unilaterally "disbanding" the
rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive newgroup. There are rules in place for
this kind of thing. I expect your three options within the charter are
to:

1) Ask for a new moderator. I have been in other groups where the
moderated left, and a new moderator took over.

2) Set up automatic moderation, similiar to what you have now, but where
all posts must come from "pre-screened addresses". Anyone new wanting to
post needs to "sign up".

3) Ask for a vote amoung usenet "members" as to disband the nuewgroup or
not. This is similiar to the mechanism to start a new newsgroup.

Thank You,

Steven Goodman


Hal Segal wrote:

Dear Readers,

For three reasons, this moderated newsgroup is being suspended:

1. Most importantly, there are now two websites that do a very good job
of
posting current consumer-oriented opinions about all-inclusive resorts:

http://www.debbiescaribbeanresortreviews.com/
and
http://www.tripadvisor.com/

2. We have been overwhelmed by spam lately, and I have to filter out at
least 10 junk messages for every on-topic post received.

3. Your moderator for the last four years has become frustrated that
hackers
are now apparently able to circumvent the moderation and post off-topic
posts, and this defeats the purpose of having a moderated newsgroup.

Accordingly, I have decided to cease postings to this newsgroup.

Hal Segal, moderator
rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive





=============== Comment from Moderator ===============
Actually, changing a group from moderted to unmoderated is not practical. For now, the group will remain moderated and I will be the moderator for the time being.

David Bath

My name is David Bath, I have volunteered to take over the moderation
of this group for now. I am an experienced moderator as I have been
one of the moderators of rec.audio.high-end for over 5 years. I also
voted to create this group and I've posted to the group many times as
I go to an all-inclusive resort at least once a year..

Hal is giving us the chance to prove that this is a viable group by
first posting good questions and then posting good answers. It's the
answers that Hal feels are missing. I myself feel that as long as any
on-topic posts are sent in the group should continue. Hal has
reserved the right to suspend the group again if he feels the group
is not of any use. He's giving us a few months to prove him wrong, so
let's get to it!

In article ,
Steven Goodman writes:
Hal,

You should check the usenet newsgroup charter, to see what action you
should take, instead of just unilaterally "disbanding" the
rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive newgroup. There are rules in place for
this kind of thing. I expect your three options within the charter are to:


1) Ask for a new moderator. I have been in other groups where the
moderated left, and a new moderator took over.

2) Set up automatic moderation, similiar to what you have now, but where
all posts must come from "pre-screened addresses". Anyone new wanting
to post needs to "sign up".

3) Ask for a vote amoung usenet "members" as to disband the nuewgroup or
not. This is similiar to the mechanism to start a new newsgroup.

Thank You,

Steven Goodman


Hal Segal wrote:

Dear Readers,

For three reasons, this moderated newsgroup is being suspended:

1. Most importantly, there are now two websites that do a very good job of
posting current consumer-oriented opinions about all-inclusive resorts:

http://www.debbiescaribbeanresortreviews.com/
and
http://www.tripadvisor.com/

2. We have been overwhelmed by spam lately, and I have to filter out at
least 10 junk messages for every on-topic post received.

3. Your moderator for the last four years has become frustrated that hackers
are now apparently able to circumvent the moderation and post off-topic
posts, and this defeats the purpose of having a moderated newsgroup.

Accordingly, I have decided to cease postings to this newsgroup.

Hal Segal, moderator
rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive

Best wishes, a less regulated, more open minded approach could make this
a more valuable, more successful group.


=============== Comment from Moderator ===============
Thanks for the support, I hope the group becomes a useful as it was at its peak.

David Bath

I am afraid I have to agree.
Many times my questions or replies were rejected for not being good enough.

--
Dilly


People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but
people will never forget how you made them feel.


"Greg Johnson" wrote in message
...
Best wishes, a less regulated, more open minded approach could make this
a more valuable, more successful group.


=============== Comment from Moderator ===============
Thanks for the support, I hope the group becomes a useful as it was at its
peak.

David Bath




=============== Comment from Moderator ===============
I would only reject if off-topic or a "me too" or contains flames.

David Bath

"Mildred Savalier" wrote in message
...
: I am afraid I have to agree.
: Many times my questions or replies were rejected for not being good
enough.

Too much of a dictatorship/censorship approach here (I'll be surprised
if this gets posted). I think there is no such thing as a repetitive
question. People nowadays don't have time to read through endless
archives and reviews. A newsgroup is one place to get an answer
quickly. Places always change. Censorship is so 1984ish.


=============== Comment from Moderator ===============
I think "dictatorship" or "censorship" are rather strong terms, lets just say Hal has a one view of how the group should be run, I prefer a more relaxed approach.

David Bath