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Bert Hyman wrote:

but when the Palestinians attack they are terrorists.

No, it's when the Palestinians intentionally and indiscriminately
attack civilians and blow up a public market, a transit bus, a
restaurant or the like that they're terrorists.

As opposed to showing up in force and bulldozing someone's house down or
blowing it up because someone else blew up a bomb?

(Dave Smith) wrote in
:

Bert Hyman wrote:

but when the Palestinians attack they are terrorists.

No, it's when the Palestinians intentionally and indiscriminately
attack civilians and blow up a public market, a transit bus, a
restaurant or the like that they're terrorists.

As opposed to showing up in force and bulldozing someone's house
down or blowing it up because someone else blew up a bomb?

Yep, as opposed to that.

Do you really equate the demolition of a building with the deaths of
scores of people?

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN |

Bert Hyman wrote:


As opposed to showing up in force and bulldozing someone's house
down or blowing it up because someone else blew up a bomb?

Yep, as opposed to that.

Do you really equate the demolition of a building with the deaths of
scores of people?

While most of the buildings have been cleared before demolition, there
have been lots of Palestinians killed and wounded by Israeli bombs and
rockets. Israel has been iron fisted in dealing with the Palestinians.
Destruction of their buildings and their social and physical
infrastructure has helped to provide a breeding ground for terrorist ?
freedom fighters. The Israelis claim no moral high ground in the
conflict. They were the first to use terrorism in the middle east.

Dave Smith wrote:

Deep Frayed Morgues wrote:

But everywhere there are muslims, there is terrorism! (Is there an
Islamic country that I am missing?)

Thus Islam leads to terrorism. What other common thread is there?

Terrorism is not limited to Islam. Zionists in Palestine used it in their
battle to establish Israel.

Supported by the U.S.

Protestants and Catholics have been using
terrorism in Ireland for years.

Supported by the U.S.

--
Ben Blaney

"The Reids" wrote in message
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Following up to alohacyberian

To suggest that Islamofascist terrorists are legitimate spokespeople or
recognized representatives of Islam is insulting to the faith. That tiny
sliver of common criminals who are euphemized as radicals by non-Muslims
hardly have the endorsement of rank and file Muslims anywhere.

I would think almost everybody was aware of that.

So would I, but apparently Ben Blaney isn't of like mind. KM
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"Dave Smith" wrote in message
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Terrorism is the weaponry of the poor and disenfranchised, and one man's
terrorist is another man's hero. The legitimacy of their grievances is as
valid or invalid as western grievances. They don't have huge armies
equipped
with the latest technology for killing and scaring a population. The
Israelis
pound Palestinians from the air and with tanks, but when the Palestinians
attack they are terrorists.

What Rubbish. Israel, and every other civilized country in the world which
has a representive or elected government uses its military and police
armaments against criminals, insurgents, terrorists and uniformed soldiers.
Terrorists primarily and predominantly target innocent civilians,
particularly children. If you can't see the difference, you are a-moral. What
did terrorists gain for themselves by toppling the World Trade Center and
slaughtering thousands of people? Absolutely nothing. They're insane. No
civilized country with elected officials has armies controlled by the insane.
KM
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"Dave Smith" wrote in message
...

Terrorism is the weaponry of the poor and disenfranchised, and one man's
terrorist is another man's hero. The legitimacy of their grievances is as
valid or invalid as western grievances. They don't have huge armies
equipped
with the latest technology for killing and scaring a population. The
Israelis
pound Palestinians from the air and with tanks, but when the Palestinians
attack they are terrorists.

What Rubbish. Israel, and every other civilized country in the world which
has a representive or elected government uses its military and police
armaments against criminals, insurgents, terrorists and uniformed soldiers.
Terrorists primarily and predominantly target innocent civilians,
particularly children. If you can't see the difference, you are a-moral. What
did terrorists gain for themselves by toppling the World Trade Center and
slaughtering thousands of people? Absolutely nothing. They're insane. No
civilized country with elected officials has armies controlled by the insane.
KM
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"Dave Smith" wrote in message
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Bert Hyman wrote:

As opposed to showing up in force and bulldozing someone's house
down or blowing it up because someone else blew up a bomb?

Yep, as opposed to that.

Do you really equate the demolition of a building with the deaths of
scores of people?

The Israelis claim no moral high ground in the
conflict. They were the first to use terrorism in the middle east.


The Israelis have never TARGETTED unsuspecting civilians. The founders of
Israel attacked British military forces. That you can't see the difference
from Islamofascist terrorists and legitimate elected governments is
stupefying. The likes of al-Zarqawi, bin Laden and Arafat, et. al. hardly
became Terrorist leaders by being elected by anyone. KM
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"Ben Blaney" wrote in message
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Dave Smith wrote:

Terrorism is not limited to Islam. Zionists in Palestine used it in their
battle to establish Israel.

Supported by the U.S.


The founders of Israel attacked the British military. What right had they to
rule Palestine/Israel? Anyone with an I.Q. above a grape can see the
difference. Israel was founded with the blessing of the United Nations. Which
terrorist leaders have been given a mandate from the U.N.? And, no, the
United States government didn't support the founders of Israel until after
they'd seized Israel from Great Britain. KM
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Following up to Bert Hyman

but when the Palestinians attack they are terrorists.

No, it's when the Palestinians intentionally and indiscriminately
attack civilians and blow up a public market, a transit bus, a
restaurant or the like that they're terrorists.

and when the Israelis or Americans try and take out suspected
terrorists or despots the collateral damage deaths are murders.
These problems wil be solved or not solved by adressing the
grievences, not with bombs in prams and heliciopter gunships.
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