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KathyDFrog wrote:
Over a decade since the brutal commies went bankrupt their evil presence still hangs over Russia. Imagine a place locked in rust bowl 1950's gloom, run down trolley cars move sullen citizens through dilapidated streets, teens drink beer at 10:00 AM, citizens are silent for fear that an informant will report them, round slavic women peddle watermellons in the midst of squalor, while sullen policemen solicit bribes from frightened tourists. The original post is extremely well written and, as such, makes a very persuasive case. Unfortunately for those who are moved by the excellent writing, the content bears little resemblance to reality. Oh, I'm in no position to say that another woman did or did not agree with Kathy DFrog's opinion. Ditto for the opinion of someone who works on the ship. And, admittedly, the "wealth and spectacle" she mentions definitely exists. However, everything else reflects Ms. DFrog's own perspective rather than an absolute statement about the way things are in St. Petersburg. Karen Selwyn |
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KathyDFrog wrote:
Over a decade since the brutal commies went bankrupt their evil presence still hangs over Russia. Imagine a place locked in rust bowl 1950's gloom, run down trolley cars move sullen citizens through dilapidated streets, teens drink beer at 10:00 AM, citizens are silent for fear that an informant will report them, round slavic women peddle watermellons in the midst of squalor, while sullen policemen solicit bribes from frightened tourists. The original post is extremely well written and, as such, makes a very persuasive case. Unfortunately for those who are moved by the excellent writing, the content bears little resemblance to reality. Oh, I'm in no position to say that another woman did or did not agree with Kathy DFrog's opinion. Ditto for the opinion of someone who works on the ship. And, admittedly, the "wealth and spectacle" she mentions definitely exists. However, everything else reflects Ms. DFrog's own perspective rather than an absolute statement about the way things are in St. Petersburg. Karen Selwyn |
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KathyDFrog wrote:
snip Russia is the worst place I've ever visited-I will never return! Perhaps you shouldn't go ANYWHERE hat was under communist control. It seems to me that you went there with hatred in your heart and saw only what you wanted to see. Yes, there is dirt, dilapidation, evidence of grand times gone bad and lots of paranoid citizens. But you will find that in every major city in the world. But because they were "commies", as you so eloquently put it, you chose to hate everything you saw. Yes, communism brought hard times to the people of Russia. But there are lots of countries that have communist leanings and ruling them out as ports of call may keep you locked up on the ship for your whole cruise. The whole world isn't made up of colorfully costumed dancing girls and marimba playing natives. I suggest you get used to it or stay home. Just my $.02 Ray Contreras =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Webmonkey for: http://www.ossystems.com http://members.aol.com/gaspast http://www.rayzplace.com -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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KathyDFrog wrote:
snip Russia is the worst place I've ever visited-I will never return! Perhaps you shouldn't go ANYWHERE hat was under communist control. It seems to me that you went there with hatred in your heart and saw only what you wanted to see. Yes, there is dirt, dilapidation, evidence of grand times gone bad and lots of paranoid citizens. But you will find that in every major city in the world. But because they were "commies", as you so eloquently put it, you chose to hate everything you saw. Yes, communism brought hard times to the people of Russia. But there are lots of countries that have communist leanings and ruling them out as ports of call may keep you locked up on the ship for your whole cruise. The whole world isn't made up of colorfully costumed dancing girls and marimba playing natives. I suggest you get used to it or stay home. Just my $.02 Ray Contreras =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Webmonkey for: http://www.ossystems.com http://members.aol.com/gaspast http://www.rayzplace.com -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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erhaps you shouldn't go ANYWHERE hat was under communist
control. It seems to me that you went there with hatred in your heart and saw only what you wanted to see. Do we have some ex-Reds in this newsgroup? The Communists slaughtered over 100 million of there own people. Most of this was by the Russians. Yes I despise everything communism stands for. Shame on you and I certainly question your humanity and empathy for those murdered Ukrainians, Finns, Latvians and various political prisoners slaughtered by the "evil empire". Before visiting Russia I had hoped that Russia had civilized itself at least a little, since the bankruptcy of the Red state. I was wrong. Why defend Russia-are you Russian? Or are you a Communist? If you were American, you would know that Russian communism has terrorized the USA since its inception in 1917. |
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Charles wrote: Frog is a known troll who returns to post garbage from time to time. I hear that she's married to Ross Klein. Any truth to that? |
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Charles wrote: Frog is a known troll who returns to post garbage from time to time. I hear that she's married to Ross Klein. Any truth to that? |
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KathyDFrog wrote:
Why defend Russia-are you Russian? Or are you a Communist? If you were American, you would know that Russian communism has terrorized the USA since its inception in 1917. Yes, it is still hard for people to get used to living a little more "free". They have been under oppression for so long, they don't know any different! Plus, it is still not a totally free society. The country is headed by a former KGB chief! Hating the Russian people because of how their government is run makes just as much sense as the radical Islamic that hate everybody that isn't Muslim. If your heart is so full of hatred for Communists and the people that were once ruled by Communism, then you better stay out of most of the European countries as it had spread to almost every one at one time or another. And if you don't want to have anything to do with any country where there was any sort of humanitarian shortcomings, then, like I said before, stay on the boat because EVERY country has done wrong in the past .... even the US. Of course, I am not defending the "Soviet Society" ... only the innocent Russian people that make a good living selling us Americans (and others) trinkets, baubles and gewgaws when we get off our floating palaces. Oh, and as far as my being Russian ... nope. I am a fiercely American. I just am very saddened by people that insist on being "Ugly Americans" by spewing hatred and refusing to learn anything from past mistakes. I feel sorry for you. With all that blackness in your heart, I am afraid that you will never really learn to appreciate other cultures, peoples and places and fully enjoy the cruising experience. Don't go back to Russia. We don't want you representing US there. -- Ray Contreras =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Webmonkey for: http://www.ossystems.com http://members.aol.com/gaspast http://www.rayzplace.com -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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KathyDFrog wrote:
Why defend Russia-are you Russian? Or are you a Communist? If you were American, you would know that Russian communism has terrorized the USA since its inception in 1917. I guess that includes World War II when they were our allies. Sheesh, what an idiot. |
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