you must be a terrorist if...

Exactly...
EVERYONE WHO READS THIS NEEDS TO WRITE THEIR CONGRESMAN OR US
REPRESENATIVE... If you just travel to the us, write whoever represents
the area you visit or where you do business...

GET RID OF THE TSA, Make flying fun again. Don't treat the rest of us
like we intend on blowing up a plane.. because we do not, we just want
to get where we are going... that's it....

the TSA is a WASTE of money, Any money wasted here could be better used
to better educate our children, improve our highways, also to improve
the air traffic system. The patriot act must go too....

Of course GOVERNMENT GOVERNS BEST WHEN IT GOVERNS LEAST. a smaller
government is better... it puts less of a drain on the economy...

Please do write and express your feelings

thanks

JOHN
...........
Lets face it. The TSA is running around in circles, with their thumbs
up their asses, wondering what to look for next. Most security people
have absolutely no idea what they're looking for. Now add the
"profiling" issue. I get patted down on every trip, (along with the
90 year old lady in the wheelchair.) while "Achmed" walks through
security like it isn't even there.




Jim Davis wrote:
On Mar 8, 8:25 pm, JA_MORAN wrote:

I usually fly Cessna's, not commercial jets.

be reasonable be fair is all I am asking and be smart too.


And I'll be the first to agree that it's not too much to ask.


For the private pilot it's not so bad as for the commercial or airline
passenger. I just need to be sure I have an airport issued badge visable
should anyone ask. So far, no one has cared to ask.


I will show up at the rental place, do the weight and balance, get the
flight weather, then am handed the keys to the plane.

my intention is to get the plane fly from point a to point B, or go out
to the practice area, so some maneuvers and safely return...


I have noticed that some airports where one was able to walk up to the
aircraft, they are now installing perimeter fences. Gila Bend Arizona is
an example of that. I think about the only ting the fence will
accomplish is is will keep "pedro" (illegals who cross through the
desert) from getting near the airport. It's not the illegals who mean
trouble, it's the smugglers who often will ambush another smuggler and
steal their cache of illegals.


They're worried that terrorists are comming in with the illegals.
(easist way) I've often stood in a crowded immigration line thinking
that if I had just gone down the road a bit, and jumped the fence, I'd
be home by now.

The fence was their first attempt at security. After 9/11, they
worried about terrorists using small private planes to deliver bio-
weapons, (Crop dusting aircraft were suspected especially.)

Lets face it. The TSA is running around in circles, with their thumbs
up their asses, wondering what to look for next. Most security people
have absolutely no idea what they're looking for. Now add the
"profiling" issue. I get patted down on every trip, (along with the
90 year old lady in the wheelchair.) while "Achmed" walks through
security like it isn't even there.

NOW, If I go some place by air, it's usually when I am the pilot, not on
a commercial plane. I can go where I want when I want and flying is lots
of fun too... IT's just on the more distant trips that I take a
commercial flight.

JOHN



Enjoy it while you can...news reports indicate TSA is diligently
working on ways and means to require security protocols be enforced on
general aviation as well as commercial and I know from other sources
that will mean closing many rural and unmanned airstrips if "necesary"
and possibly eliminating VFR flying entirely...can't have you
hijacking your own four seater now can we?

Jim P.

wrote:

Enjoy it while you can...news reports indicate TSA is diligently
working on ways and means to require security protocols be enforced on
general aviation as well as commercial and I know from other sources
that will mean closing many rural and unmanned airstrips if "necesary"
and possibly eliminating VFR flying entirely...can't have you
hijacking your own four seater now can we?

There is a rumor they are going to ban rental vans in order to prevent
them from being used to carry explosives.

On Mar 22, 11:41 pm, "Stan de SD"
wrote:
"JA_MORAN" wrote in message

.. .



I have a swiss army knife on a pen...

great for tightening the pins that hold video cables to the backs of
monitors and computer systems....

at some airports I have no problems with my pen... It's a pen with a
swiss army knife (small one with scissors and a 1 inch blade) on top
makes nice letter opener.... while at others like JFK terminal 7 I got
treated like I was a terrorist. I also travel with a red swiss army
knife in my pocket... always have it's a tool for me the scissors, the
screwdriver etc....

I fix computers and its easier to carry the swiss army knife than a tool
belt...

I hate today's security, makes me feel VERY INSECURE, don;t treat me and
everyone else like we are terrorists because we are not, we just want to
get to where we are going...

I once said "why do you want me to put that" (luggage cart) "through
there" (x-ray). "There's no way I could put plastic explosives in ther
and you can't detect that stuff anyway" This was back in 1992 when that
was a true statement... of course having a terrible head cold did not
help either... I now carry cold medicine with me in my brief case...
today, I am more careful now because airport people now dont have brains

The silly part of this "zero tolerance for weapons" crap is that there is
plenty of material in seat trays and cushions that could be fastened into
impromptu weapons by somebody with enough time on their hands (

It's kind of like schools who freak out and suspend or arrest
students for having a butter
knife or box cutters (for work) in their car, yet there are literaly
thousands of daggars floating
around campus in the form of pencils and pens.

"JA_MORAN" wrote in message
.. .
I have a swiss army knife on a pen...

great for tightening the pins that hold video cables to the backs of
monitors and computer systems....

at some airports I have no problems with my pen... It's a pen with a
swiss army knife (small one with scissors and a 1 inch blade) on top
makes nice letter opener.... while at others like JFK terminal 7 I got
treated like I was a terrorist. I also travel with a red swiss army
knife in my pocket... always have it's a tool for me the scissors, the
screwdriver etc....

I fix computers and its easier to carry the swiss army knife than a tool
belt...

I hate today's security, makes me feel VERY INSECURE, don;t treat me and
everyone else like we are terrorists because we are not, we just want to
get to where we are going...

I once said "why do you want me to put that" (luggage cart) "through
there" (x-ray). "There's no way I could put plastic explosives in ther
and you can't detect that stuff anyway" This was back in 1992 when that
was a true statement... of course having a terrible head cold did not
help either... I now carry cold medicine with me in my brief case...
today, I am more careful now because airport people now dont have brains

The silly part of this "zero tolerance for weapons" crap is that there is
plenty of material in seat trays and cushions that could be fastened into
impromptu weapons by somebody with enough time on their hands (for example,
being pinned in a coach seat on a long flight). There's a reason that they
shackle most prisoners when transporting them by air. For people who learn
how to make weapons out of the miscellaneous items that you may chance upon
in prison, an airliner is the equivalent of a flying collection of raw
materials for making all sorts of mischevious stuff... :O|

I really irritates me to see granny in the wheel chair get basically strip
searched while Mohammed is waved thru with just a wand wave.

Something is very wrong there!


"Stan de SD" wrote in message
rvers.com...

"JA_MORAN" wrote in message
.. .
I have a swiss army knife on a pen...

great for tightening the pins that hold video cables to the backs of
monitors and computer systems....

at some airports I have no problems with my pen... It's a pen with a
swiss army knife (small one with scissors and a 1 inch blade) on top
makes nice letter opener.... while at others like JFK terminal 7 I got
treated like I was a terrorist. I also travel with a red swiss army
knife in my pocket... always have it's a tool for me the scissors, the
screwdriver etc....

I fix computers and its easier to carry the swiss army knife than a tool
belt...

I hate today's security, makes me feel VERY INSECURE, don;t treat me and
everyone else like we are terrorists because we are not, we just want to
get to where we are going...

I once said "why do you want me to put that" (luggage cart) "through
there" (x-ray). "There's no way I could put plastic explosives in ther
and you can't detect that stuff anyway" This was back in 1992 when that
was a true statement... of course having a terrible head cold did not
help either... I now carry cold medicine with me in my brief case...
today, I am more careful now because airport people now dont have brains

The silly part of this "zero tolerance for weapons" crap is that there is
plenty of material in seat trays and cushions that could be fastened into
impromptu weapons by somebody with enough time on their hands (for
example,
being pinned in a coach seat on a long flight). There's a reason that they
shackle most prisoners when transporting them by air. For people who learn
how to make weapons out of the miscellaneous items that you may chance
upon
in prison, an airliner is the equivalent of a flying collection of raw
materials for making all sorts of mischevious stuff... :O|

"Craig Welch" wrote in message
...
Razzle Frataz

top posted:

I really irritates me to see granny in the wheel chair get basically
strip searched while Mohammed is waved thru with just a wand wave.

Why? Are all terrorists named 'Mohammed'?

Are grannies in wheelchairs all law abiding citizens?

The issue isn't whether all wheenchair-bound grannies are law-abiding
ctizens. It's whether they are a threat to aviation security.

Razzle Frataz wrote:
I really irritates me to see granny in the wheel chair get basically
strip searched while Mohammed is waved thru with just a wand wave.

Something is very wrong there!

If the procedure can't be applied to everyone, then it doesn't make us
more secure. After all, how do you know Granny isn't Mohmmed's mother?

Do you think there are no non-Arab terrorists?

Stan de SD wrote:

"Craig Welch" wrote in message
...

Razzle Frataz

top posted:


I really irritates me to see granny in the wheel chair get basically
strip searched while Mohammed is waved thru with just a wand wave.

Why? Are all terrorists named 'Mohammed'?

Are grannies in wheelchairs all law abiding citizens?


The issue isn't whether all wheenchair-bound grannies are law-abiding
ctizens. It's whether they are a threat to aviation security.


Why would they not be a threat?
Could they be carrying something they could either use themselves or
passed to an "abled-bodied" terrorist to use, either because of beliefs,
financial rewards, or threats against family members.

Jim Davis writes:

We'll never know just what a terrorist will, or will not do.

If that's true, then it is impossible for us to take any precautions that will
prevent terrorists from operating.

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