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Seasickness question
We have always used bonine.....which is the same thing as dramamine,
that has been used for decades. We take 1 tablet after we board and every day after that...my hubby gets very seasick....I am so-so but take it more as a precaution. As for the ginger...I love crystalized ginger...can eat a lb. at a time but can no longer have it because I am on coumadin, plavix and aspirin for a-fib and stent. That's a real bummer for me but know that ginger, liver and all leafy greens can cause blood to get too thin...... |
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Tom K wrote: I've been on about 40 cruises (plus or minus). I DO have a tendency to get seasick as did my kids. Tom, you unfortunetly get seasick before the ship sails!! We did try the bands for the kids on one cruise. All they do is dig a hole in your wrist while you still get seasick. SNIP Seasickness is an inner ear issue. Putting something on your wrist may make you think it will work, but if it does it's likely because you've convinced your brain that it will work (similar to placebo affect). The bands do help many people, as with everything else each person if different. The bands work on accupuncture principles and accupunture has been proved to help with nausea etc. The bands and/or ginger helping is not placebo affect, they have both been proven to help nausia and seasickness. They may not work for you and your family, but they do work very well for many people. I wouldn't count on the bands though. On the other hand, if you do try the bands, you can always get Bonine later on board anyway. And it is over the counter, so you don't need an Rx for it. Tom, that is the thing, I would rather try the bands and add ginger if needed. Then move on to Bonine if needed, but would much rather not take any meds, even OTC, unless nothing else works. Ginger is a food item and the bands work on acupuncture priniples and I would much rather try them before taking bonine or any other medicine. sue |
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On 3/11/10 12:45 PM, Joyce wrote:
We have always used bonine.....which is the same thing as dramamine, Technically (chemically), that's not true. They are different materials. Bonine contains meclazine. Dramamine contains dimenhydrinate (chemically, dimenhydrinate is a salt of two drugs: diphenhydramine, and 8-chlorotheophylline, a chlorinated derivative of theophylline, added in order to counteract drowsiness.) Dramamine is a brand name that recently has come out with a "non drowsy Dramamine" which does contain meclazine (same as Bonine), but the original Dramamine was a very different material that made people VERY drowsy. After a Dramamine tablet, our son spent the entire lunch sleeping with his head down on the dining room table just after we returned to the ship after a very rough tender ride from CocoCay (which took about an hour since the ship had to move twice). --Tom that has been used for decades. We take 1 tablet after we board and every day after that...my hubby gets very seasick....I am so-so but take it more as a precaution. As for the ginger...I love crystalized ginger...can eat a lb. at a time but can no longer have it because I am on coumadin, plavix and aspirin for a-fib and stent. That's a real bummer for me but know that ginger, liver and all leafy greens can cause blood to get too thin...... |
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On 3/11/10 1:38 PM, Sue Mullen wrote:
Tom K wrote: I've been on about 40 cruises (plus or minus). I DO have a tendency to get seasick as did my kids. Tom, you unfortunetly get seasick before the ship sails!! Yet I don't recall needing them for the Crossing on the QM2. But for several sailings out of San Juan, PR... they were a HUGE help. Oh... and the time Charles and I sailed through the Nor-Easter on the way home from Bermuda... that time I needed to take a second tablet... and fell asleep and had nightmares. LOL. We did try the bands for the kids on one cruise. All they do is dig a hole in your wrist while you still get seasick. SNIP Seasickness is an inner ear issue. Putting something on your wrist may make you think it will work, but if it does it's likely because you've convinced your brain that it will work (similar to placebo affect). The bands do help many people, as with everything else each person if different. The bands work on accupuncture principles and accupunture has been proved to help with nausea etc. The bands and/or ginger helping is not placebo affect, they have both been proven to help nausia and seasickness. They may not work for you and your family, but they do work very well for many people. I wouldn't count on the bands though. On the other hand, if you do try the bands, you can always get Bonine later on board anyway. And it is over the counter, so you don't need an Rx for it. Tom, that is the thing, I would rather try the bands and add ginger if needed. Then move on to Bonine if needed, but would much rather not take any meds, even OTC, unless nothing else works. Ginger is a food item and the bands work on acupuncture priniples and I would much rather try them before taking bonine or any other medicine. I hear you... but it's an UGLY few hours while you're fining out the other stuff ISN'T working... And I'm not sure what ginger is going to do in the inner ear. Ginger calms the stomach after you've thrown up... but I can't see what it's going to do to the inner ear (where the issue starts). Who's even more sensitive than me is Renee from our Viking gang. As soon as the ship has a little motion, she needs to pop a Bonine. And it's nothing to be embarrassed about. It's just an increased sensitivity to balance in the inner ear. --Tom sue |
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TEP wrote:
I was kind of surprised not to see them listed on either the Walgreens or CVS website http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/search/sea...ckness%20bands It didn't come up for me. I'll go over there tomorrow, thanks. |
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Tom K wrote:
On 3/10/10 8:45 PM, Marcia R. wrote: My fiance is a little concerned about getting seasick on our cruise. I've been looking around the internet for those wrist bands, but I can't seem to find a store that sells them. Does anyone know where I can buy a pack in an actual store and not online? I'm kind of hoping to return them after the cruise if we don't need to open the package. Thanks. Marcia Charles is right. Bonine. Some additional detail... I've been on about 40 cruises (plus or minus). I DO have a tendency to get seasick as did my kids. We did try the bands for the kids on one cruise. All they do is dig a hole in your wrist while you still get seasick. What DOES WORK is the over the counter drug Bonine (generic name meclazine). It's a mild anti-histamine which just happens to have anti seasickness properties. My Doctor recommended it years ago. It works GREAT. After the first cruise, the next 39 have been on Bonine. One tablet (or even a half a tablet) taken once a day. It works so well that it's also used for chemotherapy patients. Plus it's used for people who at times get an imbalance in their inner ear and feel light headed (where the room spins). Seasickness is an inner ear issue. Putting something on your wrist may make you think it will work, but if it does it's likely because you've convinced your brain that it will work (similar to placebo affect). There's also a stronger prescription drug (that comes in the form of a patch), but it was actually withdrawn from the market for a number of years, if I recall correctly. My Doctor didn't recommend that. Some people talk about Ginger. If that works for him, fine. But it tends to settle the stomach. I don't think it's going to do anything about the inner ear cause of the problem. So, with all the options (ginger, bands, Bonine) what the ships actually have at the purser's desk for passengers who feel seasick is Bonine (or the generic meclazine) tablets. Some other points to consider. There are more calm areas of the world. And more rough areas. The Western Caribbean, south of Cuba, is one of the most calm areas. If you're there, chances are he won't need much of anything. The Eastern Caribbean sailings tend to spend more time in the Atlantic Ocean, which is rougher. The place I would start is with your fiance's doctor. Or if he doesn't want to do that, hit the pharmacy for some Bonine, just ask the purser's desk for something once on board if he starts to feel seasick. They'll give you generic bonine tablets. I wouldn't count on the bands though. On the other hand, if you do try the bands, you can always get Bonine later on board anyway. And it is over the counter, so you don't need an Rx for it. --Tom We're sailing to Alaska from Seattle. I understand there is one rough spot we go through. Marcia |
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John Sisker wrote:
"Marcia R." wrote in message ... My fiance is a little concerned about getting seasick on our cruise. I've been looking around the internet for those wrist bands, but I can't seem to find a store that sells them. Does anyone know where I can buy a pack in an actual store and not online? I'm kind of hoping to return them after the cruise if we don't need to open the package. Thanks. Marcia Marcia, Of all the cruises that we have personally been on, we found Bonine works the best for us. In fact, we always recommend Bonine to our clients who do have a concern about possible seasickness. However, and in all honesty, we never tried the wrist bands, but at one time or another, have tried just about everything else. Bonine is convenient; just one chewable tablet a day, and at least for us, never made us drowsy as Dramamine did. Likewise, it was interesting to us, that another thread mentioned Catalina Island. For on a clear day, we can actually see Catalina Island if we cross the street from our house. Yet, many people do make the mistake of comparing their private trip to Catalina with what they will encounter of a cruise ship. Yet, a cruise ship is built for comfort and has stabilizes to help smooth things out. The boats to Catalina are made for speed, and of course have no stabilizers. There is another thing that many people do not know, is that is the trip from shore to Catalina Island has to cross a very rough part of the ocean for the most part. All this said, even before going on a day trip to Catalina, we still take Bonine, and never encountered a problem. John Sisker - SHIP-TO-SHORE CRUISE AGENCY® (714) 536-3850 or toll-free at (800) 724-6644 & (Agency ID: 714.536.3850) www.shiptoshorecruise.com / www.tinplatedesign.com Facebook/Twitter/Blog/Flickr/MyPage We once took the bigger boat to Catalina, which even made me queasy. I'm fine on little boats and cruise ships. He might be fine, as well but we won't know until we get on the ship. I remember getting on a cruise ship for the very first time thinking I wasn't going to be happy, but I got used to that feeling very quickly. Marcia |
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Tom K wrote: I hear you... but it's an UGLY few hours while you're fining out the other stuff ISN'T working... The other stuff works quickly if it is going to work, you don't have to wait to be very sick before switching to bonnine. And I'm not sure what ginger is going to do in the inner ear. Ginger calms the stomach after you've thrown up... but I can't see what it's going to do to the inner ear (where the issue starts). I can't explain the "why" it works, but I have seen ginger working first hand. I may be wrong here, but I think it is the inner ear problems that causes the nauseousness or seasickness and ginger works very well for nausea. And it's nothing to be embarrassed about. It's just an increased sensitivity to balance in the inner ear. Of course it is nothing to be embarrased about and I don't think anyone has ever said it was. sue |
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