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JFK Airtrain: Good News, Bad News, Good News and Bad News
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------------------------------------------------------------------------- Free software - Baxter Codeworks www.baxcode.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Robert Coté" wrote in message ... In article , "Baxter" wrote: "Robert Coté" wrote in message ... is directly on topic. The Portland light rail extension, AirMAX, is significantly financed by the $3 PFC that every commercial air passenger pays coming and going. Well, not quite, bobby - that $3 only covers the part of AirMAX that is on Airport property. And Tri-Met, Metro, City of, and the Port authority are famous for their rigorous financial firewalls. You got any actual proof of wrongdoing? If you do, then hie yourself to the Attorney General's office. Otherwise you're just blowing smoke. Those trains run all the way to Beaverton (on the other side of downtown). Also, that $3 is only on departures - not both ways. You are correct. I should have said "coming through and going" to make that clearer. Actually, you're trying to obfusticate. And do note, the $3 fee only applies to construction (airport share = ~$28 million) - not operating costs. Yeah riiiight. $28 million. Hmmm, generating $1.3 million per month it should only be around for 22 months. 'Course, you're welcome to challenge this - but to do so would undermine most of your other arguments about how much LRT costs. Not at all. Oh, yes - what figure are you up to now for MAX costs $5 billion? Or more? |
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JFK Airtrain: Good News, Bad News, Good News and Bad News
Miguel Cruz wrote:
I don't know where you've been for the last few postings, but that has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Oh really,Miguel? Why pretend, we both know perfectly well what this is about. You want me to have an abortion. It's really the only sensible thing to do, if its done safely. Therapeutically there's nodanger involved. |
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JFK Airtrain: Good News, Bad News, Good News and Bad News
big box stores profit of walkup guy versus SUV guy.
You need to consider that a parking lot isn't free. The store must purchase the land and pay taxes on the land which, for box stores, doesn't generate any revenus. There are also costs associated with lighting and surveillance, as well as snow removal. So part of the cost of the roll of toilet paper goes towards paying for the parking lot, so walk-in customers end up subsidizing the SUV drivers. In an airport, the equation is different because parking generates revenus. Do those parking lots generate virtual profits because the full costs of the land/maintenance/taxes is not factored in ? What if governments were to mandate that airports must pay an environment tax for each hectare of land that does not have vegetation ? (grass or forest) ? Perhaps airports would then see the savings in giving vast expanses of paved land back to nature and fostering mass transit access to the airport. Also, airports generally have vast expanses of land around them due to noise issues. Is the land more profitable as a paved parking lot, or would they make greater profit leasing the land for industrial complex/wharehouses ? |
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JFK Airtrain: Good News, Bad News, Good News and Bad News
JF Mezei trolled:
big box stores profit of walkup guy versus SUV guy. You need to consider that a parking lot isn't free. The store must purchase the land and pay taxes on the land which, for box stores, doesn't generate any revenus. There are also costs associated with lighting and surveillance, as well as snow removal. So part of the cost of the roll of toilet paper goes towards paying for the parking lot, so walk-in customers end up subsidizing the SUV drivers. JF and SUVs, like a rabbid dog with a bone... ============================== FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS About J F M E Z E I ============================== Author: Michael Voight "mrtravelkay" 1. Who is JF Mezei? Jean-Francois Mezei is the worst netkook and megatroll to have ever hit rec.travel.air and various other usenet newsgroups. He is also one of the longest running trolls in usenet history. 2. How long has he been trolling? For well over a decade. 3. Where does he live? Jean-Francois Mezei 86 Harwood Gate Beaconsfield, QC H9W3A3 (514) 695-8259 4. What makes him such a malicious troll? His trolling is constant, repetitious, relentless. Once he invades your newsgroup he will stay for decades, troll around the clock, day in and day out, every day of the year, for years and years on end. He does not listen to pleas to stop, he does not listen to anything anyone tells him, he does not pay attention when the misinformation/disinformation he posts is corrected, he just goes right on trolling year in, year out like a little child holding his ears closed while yelling "I can't hear you, I can't hear anything you say!" 5. What does he troll about? His favorite subjects are USA-bashing and anything to do with sex. He hates the USA and Americans and will hijack any thread and turn it into a USA-bashing fest. If he can't do that then he'll just start making lewd posts. 6. What does he hate about the USA? Everything! He is part of a larger group of Canadian trolls who have a visceral hatred of the USA, motivated by envy mostly. The USA is a happier, better, more successful version of their country and they can't stand it. Some of JF's favorite troll bait is "the Bush regime", "the Bush-Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz axis of evil", "Americans are brainwashed", "Cars are evil", "SUVs are evil", "all Americans are stupid" etc. 7. What about his sexual trolling? Ah, that is JF at his trolling best. No sexual topic is too bizarre. Among his favorites are child sexuality, masturbation, women's genitalia, sex toys, circumcision, the sex lives of Americans (of course) ... the list is endless. 8. Circumcision??? Yes, JF trolled the circumcision newsgroups for years. He still likes to insert circumcision into his trolling every now and then. Apparently, JF was traumatized as a child because his parents, poor Hungarian immigrants to Canada, left him uncircumcised when he was born, as is the custom in most of the world. Growing up in Canada where male infant circumcision was prevalent at the time, he was psychologically scarred (so he claims). As soon as he could he arranged to get himself snipped, and then joined the brigades of circumcision proselytizers in the newsgroups advocating the joys of a free willy. His main argument is how much better he was able to masturbate after getting circumcised without that "pesky foreskin" getting in the way of his enjoyment, and he has made it his mission in life to spread the circumcision gospel. 9. What's his interest in child sexuality? That sounds kind of freaky. Well, everything having to do with Mezei *is* freaky. Among the subjects dear to his heart are the genitals of little boys and girls, especially little boy's foreskins (and how tight they are) and little girls' hymens. He is also a tireless activist and advocate that children should be taught to masturbate early on so that they don't grow up "sexually repressed like Americans". He also counsels all parents of boys that they constantly check their little boys' penises and foreskins frequently to ensure a good fit, proper movement, and that they be able to masturbate with no problems. Utopia for JF would be a world full of parents manipulating their little boys' penises. 10. Ewww! This guy is sounding more and more disgusting by the minute! Are you sure about all this stuff? Yes, you can check the google archives for yourself. There's over a decade full of Mezei trolling in there. 11. How can I find all that out, doesn't he change aliases all the time like all trolls do? Of course! See the appendix below for a list of many of his known trolling aliases. 12. So where does this guy get so much time to troll, doesn't he work? Ha ha ha! JF hasn't worked a day in his life! He's an adult baby, a grown man who still lives at home with mommy and sleeps all day and trolls the newsgroups all night. In his free time when he isn't trolling he likes to ride his bike down to Dorval Airport and race the planes down the runway in his bike. 13. That seems strange, is he mentally ill or something? Bingo! JF is a boy in a grown man's body. Psychologically he never got past the age of 13 and got stuck in a world of bathroom humor (i.e. "pull my finger!") and locker room antics that he has never been able to outgrow. 14. Speaking of locker rooms, I heard he has a sexual fetish about them, is that true? Yes! JF goes to the gym not to work out but to watch men in the locker room. He loves to post about the male sexual organs he has seen in locker rooms over the years, especially his unnatural obsession with foreskins. He stalks the men in locker rooms trying to measure how much foreskin they have, or how little is left if they have been circumcised. He gets extremely excited when he spots a case of phimosis. 15. Oh my Gawd, this guy is nuts! He should be locked up in an insane asylum! Yep, JF is certifiably insane. He lives in a black helicopter / tin foil hat world where others are out to get him. The key to understanding JF is that he sees himself as a VICTIM. To JF the world is out to get him, especially the USA. Victimhood is what JF is all about. What seems to have sent him over the edge was when the Canadian rail system was "killed", in his words. He used to be a major train nut, spotting trains, writing down their numbers and chasing them down at the train yard like a good freak. Then he turned his attention to aviation. Major events that made him fall head first deep into the abyss were the bankruptcy of Canadian Airlines and their subsequent takeover by Air Canada (whom he sees as evil). So paranoid is he that when an Air Canada plane crashed he claimed that Air Canada employees went lurking about in the night with buckets of white paint to cover up the Air Canada markings. He saw that as symbolic of a cover up of the crash investigation. He has never recovered from this. 16. Where else does he hang out, I want to avoid him! His main haunt on usenet is comp.os.vms, a newsgroup dedicated to some ancient, arcane, obsolete piece of vax crapware that nobody has taken seriously for decades. JF hangs out there with other misfits and social dropouts who share his psychological traumas, crying for the good old vax days of yore. It's really pathetic! 17. Where else does he hang out? can.internet.highspeed, alt.cellular.fido, and a few other geeky computer groups. For a while after the Shuttle Columbia disaster he invaded the sci.space groups, sci.space.shuttle in particular, and trolled it relentlessly with the anti-American, conspiracy theory crap he's so famous for. But they ran him off that group and he had to go crawling back to comp.os.vms with his tail between his legs, licking his wounds. 18. It sounds like comp.os.vms is the only group he respects and doesn't troll. Pretty much. For a megatroll like JF it's impossible not to troll, so he slips in troll bait every now and then, but by and large he respects comp.os.vms, and, more importantly, he tries to hide his trolling activities from them so they won't find out what a major netkook he is. 19. Wow, sounds like he should be exposed so they will know what kind of psycho he is! Exactly. Feel free to post all his trolls to comp.os.vms. And while you're at it post them to can.internet.highspeed and alt.cellular.fido too. And to alt.usenet.kooks, a group for the likes of JF, and news.admin.net-abuse.usenet. 20. What else can I do? Is there an abuse address? Yes, you should send complaints along with copies of his troll posts to: And feel free to distribute this FAQ freely. Post it to newsgroups, email it to people, you may host it at your own website, send it to newspapers and magazines that do Internet articles or anything to do with Montreal or Canada, etc. *** APPENDIX *** List of some of the many trolling aliases used by Mezei over the years. This is only a partial list, he has so many it's impossible to compile a full list. [nospam] nobody nobody nobody nobody nobody nobody nobody muklak Sheep skin snowy squirrel Conspiracy Theory Lou Raccoon Flapping Labias Throbbing vulva Twin Gonads Loose Scrotum Raised Organ Popped Cherry Monica Lewinski Deep Fried Foreskin Aroma of Smegma Wet fart Pubic dandruff Voluptuous Nipple Inserted Finger Pubic Nair Flatulent Meatus Lihk Mhygroin Pre Khum Phi Mosis Bal Anatis Fren Ullum Ivanna Getlaid Ivanna Wankalot Ivanna Umpalot Wan Tnoneofit Wan Itbad Wan Towank Wan Tolik Testos Terone Upper Gonad Right Gonad Left Gonad Tyson's Glands Nose Hair Coronal Sulcus Corpus Cavernus Armpit moisture Onani Room Arnie's Banana Raised eyebrows Vas Deferens Naked Canuck Arni's socks Notable Exception Unpopped Cherry Tatooed Ovaries Pierced eyelid Limp Tomato Eggplant Earrings Banana Underpants Naval Lint Ingrown Toenail Empty Stomach Full Stomach Smelly Cat Torn Ligament Art Tistic Furry Raccoon Wet Racoon Mad Racoon Lazy Racoon Eaten Racoon Happy Raccoon Sleeping Racoon Hungry Racoon Horny Raccoon Smart Raccoon George W Raccoon Ronald McRaccoon Thirsty Raccoon Johnny Raccoon Oshi Santo Oishi Chinko T.Yellow Q Borg Queen Ronald Wilkerson John Balterman *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* |
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nobody wrote:
Miguel Cruz wrote: I don't know where you've been for the last few postings, but that has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Oh really,Miguel? Why pretend, we both know perfectly well what this is about. You want me to have an abortion. Don't try to pin this on me. If you get an abortion it will be your choice. I'm sick of this argument. I'm going to stay at my mom's for a few weeks. miguel -- Hundreds of travel photos from around the world: http://travel.u.nu/ |
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Miguel Cruz wrote:
I don't know where you've been for the last few postings, but that has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Oh really,Miguel? Why pretend, we both know perfectly well what this is about. You want me to have an abortion. Don't try to pin this on me. If you get an abortion it will be your choice. I'm sick of this argument. I'm going to stay at my mom's for a few weeks. Mr Cruz, you clearly aren't a bona fide rec.travel.air participant if you don't instantly recognize such an obvious quote from the all-time flying bible called "Airplane !!!". I am very disapointed. As a punishement, you need to rent the "Airplane !!!" documentary and watch it twice in a row. And no freeze frame during the gratuitous scenes where you see breasts bouncing around. Janet Jackson wasn't the first one to show her breasts in public. |
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"Steve Lackey" wrote in message ...
It is kinda a funny use of the word subsidize. But the posters point is that the walk up guy benefits from the parking lot, whether he parks or not. The store is able to deliver the products they have at the price they do because of all of them SUV driving customers. If they had to rely upon walk up business only, the selection would be narrower, and the prices higher. As such, the pedestrian customer has an interest in bearing the same burden for the parking lot cost of business as the folks who actually park there. You mean the big box stores that have low prices because of the economy of scale involved in selling to people who fill the back end of their SUVs and minivans with a pallet worth of stuff are subsidizing the walk up customer who just buys what he can put in his little urban shopping cart? I mean, in one transaction, the SUV guy probably spends in the $100-200 range for month supplies of stuff, while the walkup guy likely spends in the $50 range for a week or two worth of stuff at a higher unit cost than the SUV guy. Plus, he takes up the same amount of "store resources" to make his purchase, in terms of space and employee time to process his transaction, assuming it takes the same amount of time to scan a barcode whether its a single roll of paper towels or the 12-pack, so he probably makes 3-4 visits in a month instead of one. Also, the selection can be broader because of the shear volume. OTOH, the store makes more profit off the walkup guy in a shopping cart. I guess someone would argue that the walkup guy is subsidizing the SUV guy, but I'd suspect the whole thing is close to a wash. "more profit" in a percentage basis, but "total profit" is more of a concern in most cases. Costco has some policy about maintaining a relatively low profit margin, with the intent of pursuing extremely high volumes, to reap a higher total profit. It, unfortunately, is why frequently they don't carry certian items because the volume can't be achieved. There's an old story about a guy who makes leather purses. He gets leather from cows that are being slaughtered for food. If he doesn't make purses out of them, the leather is discarded. So he gets a pretty good price for the leather. The accusation is that the steak eaters are subsidizing the purse buyers. Then his purses get so popular that the purse buyers become an excuse to slaughter the cow, whether the meat is needed or not. So the price of cow meat drops. Now the purse customers claim to be subsidizing the meat eaters. But it's easy to understand how some folks see it that way. But really no one is subsidizing anyone since they'd all be buying meat or purses regardless. They do have a symbiotic relationship however. This is a pretty smart example, though the point where leather demand exceeds corresponding beef demand, the input price changes dramatically. Haven't sat in an econ class in better than 10 years, but my guess is that the purse buyers would technically be correct only if their purse price rises. I think the purpose of the example is that meat is treated effectively as a commodity where as the purse isn't. The purses retail price is relatively insensitive to the cost of the leather, but the meat price is not. |
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JFK Airtrain: Good News, Bad News, Good News and Bad News
Steve Lackey schrieb:
They do charge $10 - for the roundtrip. Presumably, one who takes Airtrain to JFK takes it returning as well. For a ride of 2 or 3 miles each way to Jamaica, that is excessive, particularly for a manless operation. It's really a rip-off for Howard Beach. Still better off taking the Q10 from Kew Gardens however slow. If you work there, it's a whole different story, since you'd multiply the above by 20. Isn't that really what the whole argument about $5 is about? For that, I'd expect employee shuttles from rail stations. Is there any? they dont have to multiply by 20 but by 4 or 5... there is a monthly commuter fare for the airtrain, i think it is like 40 bucks. |
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David J. Greenberger schrieb:
Is it possible to walk out the parking lot exit and around to the subway station? Yes. The nearest parking lot exit is the Lefferts Boulevard exit, at the south edge of a massive five-roadway conglomeration of highways. The closest subway station is the N. Conduit station, about a mile away. There are two basic routes the cross under(?) the megahighway and walk west along N. Conduit (the westbound service road, so to speak, although it carries mostly Belt Parkway overflow traffic) to the subway, or walk west through a construction site on airport property just outside the parking lot fence and cross over the Belt (etc.) on a two-lane road with no sidewalk. I don't know if the former route has a sidewalk; I've only done the latter (in the opposite direction). If you're planning on taking that walk after flying in, I recommend you do a trial run without luggage first. The only way across the subway tracks between the Belt etc. and the Rockaway peninsula is via the AirTrain turnstiles. before walking a mile thru this in order to reach the subway, I would rather take one of the 3 local bus lines that connect the terminals to the subway, especially since transfers subway/bus are free. |
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Michael Thiele wrote:
Steve Lackey schrieb: They do charge $10 - for the roundtrip. Presumably, one who takes Airtrain to JFK takes it returning as well. For a ride of 2 or 3 miles each way to Jamaica, that is excessive, particularly for a manless operation. It's really a rip-off for Howard Beach. Still better off taking the Q10 from Kew Gardens however slow. If you work there, it's a whole different story, since you'd multiply the above by 20. Isn't that really what the whole argument about $5 is about? For that, I'd expect employee shuttles from rail stations. Is there any? they dont have to multiply by 20 but by 4 or 5... there is a monthly commuter fare for the airtrain, i think it is like 40 bucks. Good point. -- Steven O'Neill |
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