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On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 06:04:16 -0800, (Carolyn G)
wrote: Right. "Friends of Bill W" is a Alcoholics Anon. group. There's a lot of drinking on cruise ships so this is great that they can go to an AA meeting with other alcoholics. They had meetings on a recent cruise I was on. There must be a lot of temptation. |
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Mark plucked Senior Frog's Magic Twanger and said On 1/25/2010 11:41 AM:
I am thinking about a cruise, I will be flying to FLL from my airstrip on my estate. I am a pilot. I'm not ant-gay (both ways) but would prefer not to be harassed as I most usually am by gays on cruises (and elsewhere). I am a Renaissance Man. I'm still attempting things people think are impossible. I'm a dichotomy, shoot em dead brainbell jangler, a soft diamond, a militaristic saint, and always a very wise fool...If anything I'm a Zena Can a cruise line book me on one of these and not tell me? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7Ampu8jxP8 SPAM from the delusional. I'm gay and trust, me you nut job, I wouldn't hit on you even if we were shipwrecked on a desert island! I'd rather sleep alone then have anything to do with you. -- ________ To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "The poor dog is the firmest of friends, the first to welcome the foremost to defend" - Lord Byron View My Web Pages: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 My Shutterfly Page http://photosbybrianmk.shutterfly.com/ |
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ray plucked Senior Frog's Magic Twanger and said On 1/25/2010 8:00 PM:
George Leppla wrote: FWIW.... most "gay cruises" are whole ship charters. You have to book with the company doing the charter and can't "accidentally" book onto one of these. You can't even book it directly with the cruise line. There are many cruises that have smaller groups of GLBT people. Chances are you have probably been on a cruise with a group like this and weren't aware of it. I can't remember which cruise we were on but we kept seeing "Meeting of Friends of Dorothy" in the daily newsletter. Since neither my wife nor myself had ever heard of them, we wandered by the library to try to figure out what the group was and it then became exceedingly clear to us who they were. You should have seen my wife's face! lol Dorothy Wilson was Bill Wilson's wife and very supportive of all recovering alcoholics. Bill Wilson was one of the founding members of Alcoholics Anonymous. Friends of Dorothy is an AA meeting for GayLesbianBisexualTransgendered people in recovery. It is also open to anyone in AA in need of a meeting. Friends of Bill and Dr. Bob(?) is a reference to an AA meeting without any special interest. -- ________ To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "The poor dog is the firmest of friends, the first to welcome the foremost to defend" - Lord Byron View My Web Pages: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 My Shutterfly Page http://photosbybrianmk.shutterfly.com/ |
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Brian plucked Senior Frog's Magic Twanger and said On 1/26/2010 11:35 PM:
On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:59:08 +0000, wrote: My wife and I have been on 5 or 6 cruises in the last 10 years and I seem to recall there was a "Friends of Dorothy" meeting on every one, so yours was not a special situation. We were on a cruise and there was a "Friends of" a male name that I forget. I had wondered about that. Is that the reverse of the "Friends of Dorothy"? Friends of Bill and Dr. Bob is an AA meeting open to AA members and anyone who thinks they may have a drinking problem. Friends of Dorothy is a reference to Bill's wife who was supportive of all recovering alcoholics. A Friends of Dorothy meeting is a special interest AA meeting for Gay Lesbiian etc but no AA member in need of a meeting will be turned away. -- ________ To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "The poor dog is the firmest of friends, the first to welcome the foremost to defend" - Lord Byron View My Web Pages: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 My Shutterfly Page http://photosbybrianmk.shutterfly.com/ |
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Kurt Ullman plucked Senior Frog's Magic Twanger and said On 1/27/2010
7:29 AM: In , wrote: If it was "Friends of Bill W", this was a meeting place for Alcoholics Anonymous, named after Bill Wilson, co-founder of the organization. We were on a cruise the week after the Colts won their first Superbowl as an Indy team (the next is a couple weeks away). A couple of the wags in our group decided to have a "Friends of Peyton M" group. It was well attended. (g). I take it then this was a 12-Step Recovery meeting for Superbowl Addicts? Step 1, We admitted we were powerless over Superbowl, that our lives had become unmanageable. Such a recovery meeting would probably be more effective if held when Superbowl games were being aired in a room with no means of seeing or hearing a Superbowl game. The whole concept of a Friends of meeting is for group support and sharing courage, strength and experience in recovering from Superbowl abuse by refraining from watching, discussing, or getting any information about the Superbowl. I have heard that this addiction is harder to kick then heroin. -- ________ To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "The poor dog is the firmest of friends, the first to welcome the foremost to defend" - Lord Byron View My Web Pages: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 My Shutterfly Page http://photosbybrianmk.shutterfly.com/ |
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Carol Eskra plucked Senior Frog's Magic Twanger and said On 1/27/2010
12:50 PM: I stayed at a hotel in Fairbanks Alaska and on the way to have a drink I passed a sign that said "friends of Bill." All of a sudden a group of people came running into the bar and a man sat down next to me and mentioned his friends of Bill meeting just let out. I told him I didn't think you were allowed to drink when attending these meetings. His response was "we're not supposed to drink but we all do." Very funny, ha! You clearly have no insight of what it means to be in recovery from alcoholism. Not drinking is not something imposed by a "not supposed to" rather it is a choice of "just for today I will not drink" The group does what one alcoholic could not do. As a group we help each other maintain sobriety. -- ________ To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "The poor dog is the firmest of friends, the first to welcome the foremost to defend" - Lord Byron View My Web Pages: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 My Shutterfly Page http://photosbybrianmk.shutterfly.com/ |
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Brian plucked Senior Frog's Magic Twanger and said On 1/28/2010 9:38 PM:
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:50:05 -0500, (Carol Eskra) wrote: I stayed at a hotel in Fairbanks Alaska and on the way to have a drink I passed a sign that said "friends of Bill." All of a sudden a group of people came running into the bar and a man sat down next to me and mentioned his friends of Bill meeting just let out. I told him I didn't think you were allowed to drink when attending these meetings. His response was "we're not supposed to drink but we all do." That seems dangerous. This was a poor and insensitive attempt by Carol at humor. If she know anything about AA and recovery from alcohol abuse...she'd see that is has nothing to do with an externally imposed "not supposed to". The group is the strength of each of it's members and it's about choice. To make a choice to not drink forever is unobtainable. But to choose, "just for today, I will not drink" or for some "just for this minute I will not drink" is what helps us stay sober. -- ________ To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "The poor dog is the firmest of friends, the first to welcome the foremost to defend" - Lord Byron View My Web Pages: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 My Shutterfly Page http://photosbybrianmk.shutterfly.com/ |
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Brian K wrote: anyone who thinks they may have a drinking problem. Friends of Dorothy is a reference to Bill's wife who was supportive of all recovering alcoholics. Wikipedia suggests otherwise: In gay slang, a "friend of Dorothy" (occasionally abbreviated FOD) is a term for a gay man. Most commonly it is stated that "friend of Dorothy" refers to the film The Wizard of Oz because Judy Garland, who starred as the main character Dorothy, is a gay icon. In the film, Dorothy is accepting of those who are different. For example the "gentle lion" living a lie, "I'm afraid there's no denyin', I'm just a dandy lion."[4][5] Others claim that the phrase refers to celebrated humorist and critic Dorothy Parker, who included some gay men in her famous social circle. BTW: Bill W's wife was named Lois. Nice story, though. -- I get off on '57 Chevys I get off on screamin' guitars --Eric Clapton |
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