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On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 23:06:22 -0700, Ablang
wrote: I'm sure everyone will have an opinion on this topic, as those who have discovered upon traveling to other states and countries, that hotels & restaurants are starting to replace the practice of consumer tipping and automatically adding it into the bill. What do you think of this practice? Eateries choose service charges over tips Gawd how I support this! The USA for years has needed to adopt the European model in which tips are not expected but optional. I would MUCH rather pay a "service charge" -- although why they don't simply figure the cost of labor into the bill is another issue -- than have to concern myself with figuring what the tip shoud be. Moreover, "tipping" is also unfair to the employee, who provides labor which, in the case of a cheapskate customer, may wind up being uncompenstated. ************************************************** ********************** Was this post informative? Consider printing it or emailing it to someone you know. "A passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation . . . betrays [one nation] into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter . . . "Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. "Nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations and passionate attachments for others should be excluded." -- President George Washington Farewell Address |
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i'm in agreement with you on most points. They'll never just raise the
prices and pay employees more, though, because that also means more in FICO, unemployment, & other costs. i ignore the tip jars that are popping up everywhere. I always see them stuffed full of $1 bills... funny how the jars are always full but i never see anyone actually put anything in there, not even during the lunch rush. Could it be the employees? never! then raise the god damn price of coffee and pay the employees what they expect to make with tip and get rid of that obnoxious tip jar. |
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"JerryL" wrote in message ... "ameijers" wrote in message ... "Ablang" wrote in message (snip) (article snipped) Better they should ban tips and just pay everyone a decent wage to start with? The bottom-line cost to the customer would be the same. I dearly wish the minimum-wage law for 'tipping' jobs and the IRS assumption of 7% (I think), would be taken out of the law. aem sends... I"d prefer they don't add any service charge to the bill. Just raise their menu prices accordingly and pay the staff a livable wage. Well, I thought that was what I said...... aem sends.... |
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On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 15:41:15 -0500, Mark Anderson
wrote: I totally agree. The tipping crap in this country has gotten out of hand where you can't go anywhere and buy something without someone holding out a tip jar to contribute. I'm not a cheapskate but I'd like to know what something costs up front end of story and not leave it open ended. If a Starbucks venti mocha costs $4, which in and of itself is way overpriced, how much should I give the cashier for taking my money? Nothing. You weren't sat down and waited on. |
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Gawd how I support this!
The USA for years has needed to adopt the European model in which tips are not expected but optional. I would MUCH rather pay a "service charge" -- although why they don't simply figure the cost of labor into the bill is another issue -- than have to concern myself with figuring what the tip shoud be. Moreover, "tipping" is also unfair to the employee, who provides labor which, in the case of a cheapskate customer, may wind up being uncompenstated. ************************************************** ********************** Was this post informative? Consider printing it or emailing it to someone you know. "A passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation . . . betrays [one nation] into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter . . . "Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. "Nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations and passionate attachments for others should be excluded." -- President George Washington Farewell Address Please trim your sig to 1 line. |
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Ablang wrote:
I'm sure everyone will have an opinion on this topic, as those who have discovered upon traveling to other states and countries, that hotels & restaurants are starting to replace the practice of consumer tipping and automatically adding it into the bill. What do you think of this practice? [...] They'll pay an automatic, 20 percent service charge instead - and feed an escalating controversy about how travelers reward those who serve their meals, make their beds and carry their bags in what one expert calls "the most tip-conscious country in the world." And what cut of that service charge goes to the house? Probably the majority, I would think. It very likely won't get mandated, so it'll become known that the money doesn't really go to the staff, and eventually voluntary gratuity on top of the service charge will become the norm. It sucks. Pay the staff a proper wage. -- Ken Tough |
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The Etobian wrote: wrote: I totally agree. The tipping crap in this country has gotten out of hand where you can't go anywhere and buy something without someone holding out a tip jar to contribute. I'm not a cheapskate but I'd like to know what something costs up front end of story and not leave it open ended. If a Starbucks venti mocha costs $4, which in and of itself is way overpriced, how much should I give the cashier for taking my money? Nothing. You weren't sat down and waited on. But it took at least four obnoxious employees to make and deliver it. Better still, go to a diner, get a bottomless cup of far superior coffee for about a buck, tip the waitress a buck & a half, and you all come out smiling. -- Ken Tough |
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In article ,
Abe wrote: Gawd how I support this! The USA for years has needed to adopt the European model in which tips are not expected but optional. I would MUCH rather pay a "service charge" -- although why they don't simply figure the cost of labor into the bill is another issue -- than have to concern myself with figuring what the tip shoud be. Moreover, "tipping" is also unfair to the employee, who provides labor which, in the case of a cheapskate customer, may wind up being uncompenstated. ************************************************** ********************** Was this post informative? Consider printing it or emailing it to someone you know. "A passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation . . . betrays [one nation] into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter . . . "Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. "Nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations and passionate attachments for others should be excluded." -- President George Washington Farewell Address Please trim your sig to 1 line. Forget about it. He thinks he's too superior to adhere to netiquette. |
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That'd never fly. It makes too much sense.
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