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"Joćo Luiz" wrote in message ... I understand your logic, and to be sincere I do not get why some Brazilians go through the humiliation of getting a visa for the USA, when they could be spending their hard earned money in a place that treats them with a lot more dignity like Europe. JL I'm sorry. I have nothing to ad to this. I just didn't want this paragraph to die off. AAMOF, I'm going to periodically re-post it. H |
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"clint" wrote in message ... Skip Rio, and go to Buenos Aires! "Joćo Luiz" wrote in message ... P E T E R P A N schrieb: The hassles by Brazil's government for Americans to apply in person, and to pay US$100 fee, for 3-month multiple entry visa, is very inconvenient and annoying. One basically has to waste at least half a day showing up, waiting in the counsulate office to turn in the application, then another half a day to pick up the visa. If you have spent just two half days, you are better off than most Brazilians who want to travel to the USA. For decades there used to be no need for US-Americans to apply for a visa to travel to Brazil, while Brazilians had and still have to prove they have a job, income and are not trying to enter the USA to work clandestinely cleaning your toillets your mowing your lawns. Generally speaking the US looks at countries with a high percentage of illegal immigration when determining if a Visa is needed or not. I almost skipped the visit to Brazil because of the nonsense requirement to apply for visa in person with an intinerary, which is dependent upon when the visa is approved, and the fact that VARIG's quote for my intinerary kept increasing from US$620, to $980, to $1100 then US$1400, as I waited for the visa. There is a strong seasonal variation. Prices rise as Carnival approaches, and not only with Varig. I met some Italian tourists in Argentina who claimed they were charged US$140 for the visa, which they promptly skipped! These Italian tourists are wealthy and they could easily afford the visa fee. They could easily spend US$3000 per person or more, 20 times the visa fees on Brazilian products and services if they visit Brazil! However, these Italians did not think highly of the Brazilian government by its visa requirements, so they decide not to bother visiting Brazil. Sorry to say, but this information is as false as it can be. No citizen from the European Union needs a tourist visa for Brazil, the same way no Brazilians need any tourist visa for any country in the EU. I understand your logic, and to be sincere I do not get why some Brazilians go through the humiliation of getting a visa for the USA, when they could be spending their hard earned money in a place that treats them with a lot more dignity like Europe. I wanted to go to Rio to see the Carnaval, but it turns out to be a big disappointment. This festival is now organized in a staged location downtown Rio, called the Sambadromo, near the favela slum areas. If you had asked before, we could have warned you about the tourist trap Rio's Carnival has turned into. Any place e.g. in the Northeastern coast beats it by far. Sorry to read about your bad experience, but if you ever think of visiting Brazil again, my counsel is: just skip Rio. JL |
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"Mark T. Evert" wrote in message
news Generally speaking the US looks at countries with a high percentage of illegal immigration when determining if a Visa is needed or not. Then I wonder why a visa is not required for U.K. or German citizens, as both countries have more illegal immigrants in the U.S. than Brazil. http://www.fairus.org/ImmigrationIss...m?ID=1183&c=13 B. |
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In article , P E T E R
P A N writes -- snip snip -- I had gotten out of the internet store late at night and stopped to buy cigarettes at a small coffee shop next door, which still had a dozen people, customers and waiters. As I walked out of the shop, I stopped on the sidewalk to lit a cigarette. That was when this dark, scruffy guy, wearing a white shirt, came out of nowhere, talking to me in Portugeese. I thought he wanted a cigarette so I offered him the pack. He ignored my offer, kept talking firmly and threateiningly in Portugeeze, repeating the phrase "No problem...". I moved out to the street. He blocked my way, grabbing and holding my shirt firmly with both hands. I pulled away, he refused to let go. At the same time, out of the corner of my eyes, I saw a few other guys running toward us from the dark street corners. The street was dark, wet and deserted. Suddenly there was noone on the street but the thugs. -- snip snip -- Erm, continuity problem there, as my editor might say. Was the street wet, dark and deserted, despite the coffee-shop you had just walked out of with its dozen people inside? Why didn't you just walk back in if the guy attacked you 'as you walked out'? -- JohnM Author of Brazil: Life, Blood, Soul http://www.scroll.demon.co.uk/spaver.htm |
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These Italian citizens are permanent residents of West Palm Beach,
Florida, therefore they may be treated differently than residents of Italy.... Anyway, these 6 tourists have very low opinions of Brazil's visa requirements and her governemnt Joćo Luiz wrote in message ... P E T E R P A N schrieb: I met some Italian tourists in Argentina who claimed they were charged US$140 for the visa, which they promptly skipped! These Italian tourists are wealthy and they could easily afford the visa fee. They could easily spend US$3000 per person or more, 20 times the visa fees on Brazilian products and services if they visit Brazil! However, these Italians did not think highly of the Brazilian government by its visa requirements, so they decide not to bother visiting Brazil. Sorry to say, but this information is as false as it can be. No citizen from the European Union needs a tourist visa for Brazil, the same way no Brazilians need any tourist visa for any country in the EU. |
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"Bruno Carneiro da Cunha" wrote in message ... "Mark T. Evert" wrote in message news Generally speaking the US looks at countries with a high percentage of illegal immigration when determining if a Visa is needed or not. Then I wonder why a visa is not required for U.K. or German citizens, as both countries have more illegal immigrants in the U.S. than Brazil. I don't have the specific answer assuming your statement is accurate......It may have more to do with the percentage of people who overstay thier visit as opposed to the number of people. http://www.fairus.org/ImmigrationIss...m?ID=1183&c=13 B. |
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"Mark T. Evert" wrote in message ...
"Bruno Carneiro da Cunha" wrote in message ... "Mark T. Evert" wrote in message news Generally speaking the US looks at countries with a high percentage of illegal immigration when determining if a Visa is needed or not. Then I wonder why a visa is not required for U.K. or German citizens, as both countries have more illegal immigrants in the U.S. than Brazil. I don't have the specific answer assuming your statement is accurate......It may have more to do with the percentage of people who overstay thier visit as opposed to the number of people. http://www.fairus.org/ImmigrationIss...m?ID=1183&c=13 Come on, let“s face it, my friend: It“s clearly defined as "Illegal Alien Population" and published by no other than the US Census Bureau, make no mistake. The facts and figures are absolutely devastating, you have no reason to argue. |
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I woudl hope that other countries would understand why Americans are gunshy
and may be subjecting travelers to unusual checks - by the way are any Brazilians help fight terrorism? just wondering? So since Brazil has placed these NEW get-back-atcha strategies, I happily take my business elsewhere. I don't knock Brazilians by the way - I love their hospitality, language and varied races - but what purpose does the new strategy have? Inever n=knew Brazilian o be vindictive. |
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