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Woman Turned Away by Carnival for Being Too Pregnant
Interesting article in USA Today about a woman being turned away by Carnival for being "too pregnant." http://tinyurl.com/6es2zo Good or bad idea? -- Rik Brown Message Origin: TRAVEL.com |
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Woman Turned Away by Carnival for Being Too Pregnant
Rik Brown wrote:
Interesting article in USA Today about a woman being turned away by Carnival for being "too pregnant." http://tinyurl.com/6es2zo Good or bad idea? I can't get the article, but off hand I'd say good idea. It's a liability thing for the cruise ship. Marsha/ohio |
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Woman Turned Away by Carnival for Being Too Pregnant
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wrote: Interesting article in USA Today about a woman being turned away by Carnival for being "too pregnant." http://tinyurl.com/6es2zo Good or bad idea? I think it is a good idea. Cruise ship medical facilities are not the place to have a premature birth. I think Carnival is protecting the health of the mother, the future child, and also protecting itself from any liability. -- Charles |
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Woman Turned Away by Carnival for Being Too Pregnant
In Carnival's own brochure, they state... "Pregnancy: Please be advised that
guests who are 24 weeks or more into their pregnancy at the time of the voyage will not be permitted to sail because of the risk of premature labor." Good idea or bad idea, it's pretty standard in the industry. I think health concerns would override just about anything else. Happy sailing... John Sisker - SHIP-TO-SHORE CRUISE AGENCY (sm) (714) 536-3850 or toll-free at (800) 724-6644 & (Agency ID: 714.536.3850) www.shiptoshorecruise.com "Rik Brown" wrote in message ... Interesting article in USA Today about a woman being turned away by Carnival for being "too pregnant." http://tinyurl.com/6es2zo Good or bad idea? -- Rik Brown Message Origin: TRAVEL.com |
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Woman Turned Away by Carnival for Being Too Pregnant
On Jun 25, 10:58 pm, "John Sisker" wrote:
In Carnival's own brochure, they state... "Pregnancy: Please be advised that guests who are 24 weeks or more into their pregnancy at the time of the voyage will not be permitted to sail because of the risk of premature labor." That brochure post-dates the woman's contract. The point of her complaint and the media attention was that Carnival's 24-week policy was implemented AFTER she booked. The more liberal policy in effect at the time she booked would have allowed her to sail. Only after media attention did Carnival offer her credit toward a future cruise. (Unstated is why she didn't learn of the January change before her attempted embarkation. Carnival claims the new policy was well- publicized.) I think anyone who has cruised once appreciates the risks of sailing while in the advanced stages of pregnancy (or vulnerable to any other medical condition which could turn life/death in an instant while on the high seas and, at times, far from specialized medical care). In all the years I've been participating in online cruise discussions, it seems it's usually the pregnant women who are first-time cruisers, and often first-time pregnant, who feel invincible. I'm the first to cheer a Mother Earth approach to pregnancy, but even that has its limits. My OB always told me to be sure I could draw a "1 hour or less from a pedi ICU" circumference from any location. Diana Ball Austin, TX |
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Woman Turned Away by Carnival for Being Too Pregnant
On 6/25/2008 8:57 PM Marsha plucked Senior Frog's Magic Twanger and said:
Rik Brown wrote: Interesting article in USA Today about a woman being turned away by Carnival for being "too pregnant." http://tinyurl.com/6es2zo Good or bad idea? I can't get the article, but off hand I'd say good idea. It's a liability thing for the cruise ship. Marsha/ohio Not to mention what citizenship the child would have. Atlantis, maybe? Then again how do you repatriate a baby who doesn't breath water? ;-) -- ________ To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!" View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 |
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Woman Turned Away by Carnival for Being Too Pregnant
D Ball wrote in
: On Jun 25, 10:58 pm, "John Sisker" wrote: In Carnival's own brochure, they state... "Pregnancy: Please be advised that guests who are 24 weeks or more into their pregnancy at the time of the voyage will not be permitted to sail because of the risk of premature labor." That brochure post-dates the woman's contract. The point of her complaint and the media attention was that Carnival's 24-week policy was implemented AFTER she booked. The more liberal policy in effect at the time she booked would have allowed her to sail. Only after media attention did Carnival offer her credit toward a future cruise. (Unstated is why she didn't learn of the January change before her attempted embarkation. Carnival claims the new policy was well- publicized.) Why she didn't learn is that the policy wasn't so widely made known as some would claim. the brochure certainly precedes her booking, but brochure informaton should never be used for much of anything as the small print says somewhere, subject to change. -- Joseph Coulter, cruises and vacations www.josephcoulter.com 877 832 2021 904 631 8863 cell |
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Woman Turned Away by Carnival for Being Too Pregnant
Rik Brown wrote:
Interesting article in USA Today about a woman being turned away by Carnival for being "too pregnant." http://tinyurl.com/6es2zo Good or bad idea? I understand what they are trying to do but I think this is a bad idea because... How would anyone know how many weeks someone was pregnant? There used to be a regulation that married teachers could not teach anymore after their pregnancy started to 'show', and they had to tell the board of education within so many weeks of getting pregnant or their contract would be terminated. Because a married woman getting pregnant - oh terrible - would give the kids ideas. Of course in those days (the early 50s before the pill) if a girl got pregnant in HS, she was forced to drop out of school. (Although the father of the baby was allowed to finish) Neither of those things is true anymore, and they shouldn't be. Anyway - when I was having babies, I knew for a fact when one of my children was conceived because his dad was only home for one week. (He was in the Navy and was deployed before and after that week.) But this didn't coincide with the way that the due date was calculated. Due dates in those days (60s) were only approximate. Most of the time, we didn't have anything like that degree of knowledge. We didn't have ultra-sound in those days, but I have not had the impression that ultrasound was absolutely completely 100% accurate. Even today, people are sometimes pregnant that don't realize that they are, and there are false pregnancies as well. In my case, I would look like I was just getting a little chubby until the fifth month (approximately 20 weeks) at which point I would suddenly look as if I was due any minute. So would they deny me boarding based on my appearance? I would be really ****ed if they did. |
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Woman Turned Away by Carnival for Being Too Pregnant
Rik Brown wrote:
Interesting article in USA Today about a woman being turned away by Carnival for being "too pregnant." http://tinyurl.com/6es2zo Good or bad idea? PS - I went for a 'cruise' on a small sailboat that we owned when I was one week overdue with my first child. We got becalmed in the sea plane lanes, and the boat had no engine and didn't even have a paddle, so we just had to wait until the wind picked up again. Fortunately it was Sunday and no sea planes were landing. I had the baby the following Thursday. |
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