Count On....

"Steve Paris" wrote in message
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roads, the downsizing of cities and metropolitan areas, cities
converting to car-free status, and car-free cities such as Acrosanti,

Arcosanti is not a city. It is a few buildings in the middle of the
desert.
It is an experiment in urban living.[...]
I have actually been to Arcosanti. I enjoyed the visit in the same way
that
I enjoyed visiting Frank Lloyd Wright's Taliesen West in Scottsdale. They
are interesting places from architectural and historical viewpoints.
Neither
facility houses many people and neither represents the kind of building[s]
I'd want to live in. And both places are reached by automobile and have
parking lots.

I don't know what Paolo Soleri's position is on the car, but Wright saw it
as essential for the realization of his ideal metropolis, "Broadacre City."

Some of his "Usonian" houses -- which were intended to be affordable housing
for the middle class -- sport carports, which I believe were a Wright
innovation.

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"Exile on Market Street" wrote:

"Steve Paris" wrote in message
...
roads, the downsizing of cities and metropolitan areas, cities
converting to car-free status, and car-free cities such as Acrosanti,

Arcosanti is not a city. It is a few buildings in the middle of the
desert.
It is an experiment in urban living.[...]
I have actually been to Arcosanti. I enjoyed the visit in the same way
that
I enjoyed visiting Frank Lloyd Wright's Taliesen West in Scottsdale. They
are interesting places from architectural and historical viewpoints.
Neither
facility houses many people and neither represents the kind of building[s]
I'd want to live in. And both places are reached by automobile and have
parking lots.

I don't know what Paolo Soleri's position is on the car, but Wright saw it
as essential for the realization of his ideal metropolis, "Broadacre City."

Some of his "Usonian" houses -- which were intended to be affordable housing
for the middle class -- sport carports, which I believe were a Wright
innovation.


I'm not so sure "innovation" is the correct word. The Usonian series
was one of the few where cost effectiveness was a factor. Carports are
strange animals.

Wright was known for a selfish perspective Taliesin West has door
frames well suited for Wright's dimunitive frame but cramped for most
normal people. Unfortunately Taliesin West has been subsumed into
Phoenix via Scottsdale and its' relationship to the surroundings is
lost.

Car-free is like vegetarianism. Possible but the path of most
difficulty. The real problem is that "car-free" still needs fresh
vegetables and the huge roads infrastructure necessary to make that
happen locally.

In article ,
"Exile on Market Street" wrote:

"Steve Paris" wrote in message
...
roads, the downsizing of cities and metropolitan areas, cities
converting to car-free status, and car-free cities such as Acrosanti,

Arcosanti is not a city. It is a few buildings in the middle of the
desert.
It is an experiment in urban living.[...]
I have actually been to Arcosanti. I enjoyed the visit in the same way
that
I enjoyed visiting Frank Lloyd Wright's Taliesen West in Scottsdale. They
are interesting places from architectural and historical viewpoints.
Neither
facility houses many people and neither represents the kind of building[s]
I'd want to live in. And both places are reached by automobile and have
parking lots.

I don't know what Paolo Soleri's position is on the car, but Wright saw it
as essential for the realization of his ideal metropolis, "Broadacre City."

Some of his "Usonian" houses -- which were intended to be affordable housing
for the middle class -- sport carports, which I believe were a Wright
innovation.


I'm not so sure "innovation" is the correct word. The Usonian series
was one of the few where cost effectiveness was a factor. Carports are
strange animals.

Wright was known for a selfish perspective Taliesin West has door
frames well suited for Wright's dimunitive frame but cramped for most
normal people. Unfortunately Taliesin West has been subsumed into
Phoenix via Scottsdale and its' relationship to the surroundings is
lost.

Car-free is like vegetarianism. Possible but the path of most
difficulty. The real problem is that "car-free" still needs fresh
vegetables and the huge roads infrastructure necessary to make that
happen locally.

"Mike Donovan" wrote in message
m...

My predictions coming to pass as a program on Discovery-Times called
"Going Nowhere, Fast"

Sounds like your overall track record in Usenet, Joey Jolley AKA Steve
Austin AKA John Munch AKA Gomez Addams AKA Mike Donovan from American Fork,
UT.