Visa reqts for US

What's ABH stand for?

I'm an American who has given up on internationalism since Sept '01.
Actually, there's some interesting travel to be made domestically.

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What's ABH stand for?

I'm an American who has given up on internationalism since Sept '01.
Actually, there's some interesting travel to be made domestically.

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Oh the shark has, pretty teeth dear
And he shows them, a pearly white
The line forms, to the right dear

My Father has just returned from Minneapolis and was NOT finger printed - so
I would not take this as a forgone absolute and I really dont think you
arrest is going to show up on any US immigration computer record.

The only time this is likely to arise is if you get into any beef with the
US authorities whilst there.

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"sniper" wrote in message
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In 1997, during an argument with my then boyfriend I was arrested for ABH.
When this went to court, the case was dismissed due to extenuating
circumstances (I was defending ,myself). Therefore I have no criminal
record. I haven't even had a parking offence

However, I have to go to the US on company business and it appears I am no
longer able to travel under the Visa Waiver Scheme because I have been
arrested, regardless of the outcome of the case. This now means I am going
to have to admit this to my employers (and it also means I am going to
have to tell them I cannot do the business trip since there is no way of
getting a visa in the time scale). I also now have to explain the whole
sorry mess to my husband.

I have no paperwork relating to the case, - I can't even remember what
court it was in- never thinking I'd need it so now I have to apparently
contact New Scotland yard to try to find some record. Exactly how, or how
long this will take, I have yet to find out

Surely this is an offence against Civil Liberties? If I'd been found
guilty then maybe I could have understood it but in these circumstance
this seems totally unfair, especially as I've previously travelled to the
US many times without problems.


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My Father has just returned from Minneapolis and was NOT finger printed - so
I would not take this as a forgone absolute and I really dont think you
arrest is going to show up on any US immigration computer record.

The only time this is likely to arise is if you get into any beef with the
US authorities whilst there.

--
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John Verbeeten
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PDF-Tools & SDK, TIFF-XChange & SDK, DocuTrack.
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"sniper" wrote in message
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In 1997, during an argument with my then boyfriend I was arrested for ABH.
When this went to court, the case was dismissed due to extenuating
circumstances (I was defending ,myself). Therefore I have no criminal
record. I haven't even had a parking offence

However, I have to go to the US on company business and it appears I am no
longer able to travel under the Visa Waiver Scheme because I have been
arrested, regardless of the outcome of the case. This now means I am going
to have to admit this to my employers (and it also means I am going to
have to tell them I cannot do the business trip since there is no way of
getting a visa in the time scale). I also now have to explain the whole
sorry mess to my husband.

I have no paperwork relating to the case, - I can't even remember what
court it was in- never thinking I'd need it so now I have to apparently
contact New Scotland yard to try to find some record. Exactly how, or how
long this will take, I have yet to find out

Surely this is an offence against Civil Liberties? If I'd been found
guilty then maybe I could have understood it but in these circumstance
this seems totally unfair, especially as I've previously travelled to the
US many times without problems.


--
"Support bacteria, they're the only culture some people have

"Jonathan Bryce" wrote in message
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sniper wrote:

Surely this is an offence against Civil Liberties? If I'd been found
guilty then maybe I could have understood it but in these circumstance
this seems totally unfair, especially as I've previously travelled to the
US many times without problems.

The US doesn't have a human rights act. It has one of the worst human
rights records of any country in the world today.

rofl. Only in the world of fantasy relativism.

The US doesnt need a human rights act, it has a near perfect system of
limited government. Easily the most successful in the history of mankind.


Gaz

"Jonathan Bryce" wrote in message
...
sniper wrote:

Surely this is an offence against Civil Liberties? If I'd been found
guilty then maybe I could have understood it but in these circumstance
this seems totally unfair, especially as I've previously travelled to the
US many times without problems.

The US doesn't have a human rights act. It has one of the worst human
rights records of any country in the world today.

rofl. Only in the world of fantasy relativism.

The US doesnt need a human rights act, it has a near perfect system of
limited government. Easily the most successful in the history of mankind.


Gaz

"Jonathan Bryce" wrote in message
...
sniper wrote:

Surely this is an offence against Civil Liberties? If I'd been found
guilty then maybe I could have understood it but in these circumstance
this seems totally unfair, especially as I've previously travelled to the
US many times without problems.

The US doesn't have a human rights act. It has one of the worst human
rights records of any country in the world today.

rofl. Only in the world of fantasy relativism.

The US doesnt need a human rights act, it has a near perfect system of
limited government. Easily the most successful in the history of mankind.


Gaz

I think an 'unlawful arrest' would be under COLOR of law whereas an
abduction wouldn't.

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Author advises each reader to get the opinion of a legal professional.
This post is not intended to be legal advice.


"Mike" wrote in message
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In message , Harry The
Horse writes
kittykat wrote:
if You had a police caution held over for 1 year , not taken to
court, would the same rules apply

You must declare it even if the arrest resulted in no further action
being
taken. For example, the the arrest were unlawful or a case of mistaken
identity.

What's the difference between an "unlawful arrest" and an "abduction".
Do kidnap victims have to declare that they've been (unlawfully)
"arrested"?


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Mike

I think an 'unlawful arrest' would be under COLOR of law whereas an
abduction wouldn't.

--
Falky
San Diego, Calif.
----------------
Disclaimer: This has been the opinion of a law student, not a lawyer.
Author advises each reader to get the opinion of a legal professional.
This post is not intended to be legal advice.


"Mike" wrote in message
...
In message , Harry The
Horse writes
kittykat wrote:
if You had a police caution held over for 1 year , not taken to
court, would the same rules apply

You must declare it even if the arrest resulted in no further action
being
taken. For example, the the arrest were unlawful or a case of mistaken
identity.

What's the difference between an "unlawful arrest" and an "abduction".
Do kidnap victims have to declare that they've been (unlawfully)
"arrested"?


--
Mike

"Michael Ross" wrote in message
news:1095610899.VhXQyoBt8huKLKTe6DfmtA@teranews...
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:25:51 +0100, "Peter Crosland"
wrote:

Surely this is an offence against Civil Liberties? If I'd been found
guilty then maybe I could have understood it but in these
circumstance this seems totally unfair, especially as I've previously
travelled to the US many times without problems.

That is the US requirement and always has been. AFAIK you have always had
to
declare this so you may have problems explaining to the US Imigration
service why you did not do so before. You need to obtain a copy of your
file
on the Police National Computer. You can get an application form at any
police station.

Suggest the OP reads the thread we had around a month ago:

http://tinyurl.com/4qv2d

Executive summary: The US Embassy London website clearly states you
need a visa if you have ever been arrested OR if you have a criminal
record.

The State Dept. website clearly states you only need a visa if you
have a criminal record.

I'd believe the State Dept. At worst, it's a perfectly good excuse.

The fingerprinting is a red herring; it's all about catching people
who are on the run *in the USA*, and making sure they do a better job
of keeping track of people entering the country than they did
pre-9/11. They don't run your prints past Scotland Yard!


Excuse me for butting in here, but I would be grateful for some
clarification about what I am reading here. Are you saying that no-one with
any sort of criminal record will be allowed entry to the US?