Billings Montana no Wally Docking

"HD in NY" wrote:

Ever hear of bottom posting and snipping?
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"Tom Shaw" wrote:

No. What does that mean?
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Bottom posting is placing your response to
another's message below that message so
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context of your response.

Snipping is editing that other message for
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These are common newsgroup courtesies.

Yours truly,

Wendy & John.

"MichaelC" wrote in message
t...
That's actually called "capitalism." Economic tyranny has been outlawed
(via
Taft Hartley and other antimonopoly legislation) for some time.

If Wal-Mart actually gets close to tyranny (when Krogers and Safeway go
out
of business, and it becomes the sole supplier of America's underwear) then
that's the time to raise this sort of an issue.

I agree with you all the way. Much of the public is looking at buying
Chinese goods as they did automation in the past. I (a rather old fella)
remember someone many years ago saying with all this automation there isn't
going to be any jobs left.

The trade deficit is a huge problem. Those countries that sell to the U.S.
do not want to buy U.S. products. Instead they want to either buy treasury
bonds or U.S. Companies themselves.

A neighbor, a strong union, man was ranting about WalMart and their unfair
non-union practices. Sitting in his driveway is a nice new made in Japan
vehicle.

It is very difficult to compete with foreign made products when U.S. labor
costs include huge social overhead including as income tax and social
security payments. Countries with Value Added tax have a clear advantage.
They do not add their tax to their products shipped to the U.S. and at the
same time they add their VAT to imported U.S. products. I think Japan is an
example. Those countries then complain bitterly about unfair trade if the
U.S. imposes an import tax on their products.

That reminds me of the Scam the Scammer of a couple years ago, hooking a
scammer with hugh VAT for a worthless item:

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/dumbmrbla...%20Scammer.htm

"Rich256" wrote in message
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"MichaelC" wrote in message
t...
That's actually called "capitalism." Economic tyranny has been outlawed
(via
Taft Hartley and other antimonopoly legislation) for some time.

If Wal-Mart actually gets close to tyranny (when Krogers and Safeway go
out
of business, and it becomes the sole supplier of America's underwear)
then
that's the time to raise this sort of an issue.

I agree with you all the way. Much of the public is looking at buying
Chinese goods as they did automation in the past. I (a rather old fella)
remember someone many years ago saying with all this automation there
isn't
going to be any jobs left.

Well, that's a great point. We've lost far more jobs (if that's the right
term) to technology than we have to the Chinese.

The trade deficit is a huge problem. Those countries that sell to the
U.S.
do not want to buy U.S. products. Instead they want to either buy
treasury
bonds or U.S. Companies themselves.

A neighbor, a strong union, man was ranting about WalMart and their unfair
non-union practices. Sitting in his driveway is a nice new made in Japan
vehicle.

Yea, I've seen it too.

It is very difficult to compete with foreign made products when U.S. labor
costs include huge social overhead including as income tax and social
security payments. Countries with Value Added tax have a clear advantage.
They do not add their tax to their products shipped to the U.S. and at the
same time they add their VAT to imported U.S. products. I think Japan is
an
example. Those countries then complain bitterly about unfair trade if the
U.S. imposes an import tax on their products.

I'm a big VAT supporter, for just these reasons.

Mike

The unions have nearly destroyed the American automobile manufacturers.
The Canadians are like the French...all agitators for socialism. I am
glad Walmart kicked their asses.

American Automobile manufacturers have been destroyed by the greed of
the executives who refuse to pay the workers a living wage and so they
now play a game called "Globalization" in which the American worker is
expected to be paid Indonesian worker wages and be happy about it. Funny
how the Globalization advocates never demand that American workers be
paid the wages of their counterparts in Germany.

It is a tragedy that CEO's are forced to get by on their paltry
earnings. Sigh.

Bob Vandiver

MichaelC wrote:
"The Dead Senator" wrote:
The workers that get the privilege to work for Wally get lower
wages and benefits that also lower the local areas standards of
employment.

Lower wages than unemployment? How so?

The last unemployment check I received was the equivalent of more
than $6 an hour when the Minimum Wage was a bit, maybe two, more than
$5 an hour.
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"Bob Vandiver" wrote in message
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The unions have nearly destroyed the American automobile
manufacturers.
The Canadians are like the French...all agitators for socialism. I am
glad Walmart kicked their asses.

American Automobile manufacturers have been destroyed by the greed of
the executives who refuse to pay the workers a living wage and so they
now play a game called "Globalization" in which the American worker is
expected to be paid Indonesian worker wages and be happy about it.

The wage problem in the US auto industry is that the workers are compensated
at rates in execess of their value, not less, as determined by the free
market.

Funny
how the Globalization advocates never demand that American workers be
paid the wages of their counterparts in Germany.

As free-traders, globalization advocates would never "demand" that workers
be paid anything. The competitive market for labor sorts that out.

It is a tragedy that CEO's are forced to get by on their paltry
earnings. Sigh.

If the goverment would stop taxing dividends, both on the corporate and
individual ends, exorbitant executive pay would drop like a balloon, as
corporations would suddenly have something better to do with the excess
cash. High executive compensation is a creature of the tax code.


Mike

"Icono Clast" wrote in message
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MichaelC wrote:
"The Dead Senator" wrote:
The workers that get the privilege to work for Wally get lower
wages and benefits that also lower the local areas standards of
employment.

Lower wages than unemployment? How so?

The last unemployment check I received was the equivalent of more
than $6 an hour when the Minimum Wage was a bit, maybe two, more than
$5 an hour.

Pretty foolish to work, then, eh?

Mike

"Tom Shaw" wrote in message
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The unions have nearly destroyed the American automobile manufacturers.
The Canadians are like the French...all agitators for socialism. I am
glad Walmart kicked their asses.
TS

News flash for you Wal-Mart increasingly is getting they are asses kicked
by communities that do not want moochers insisting on tax breaks that siphon
away money and return nothing to the local economy.
Wade

"Bob Vandiver" wrote in message
...

The unions have nearly destroyed the American automobile manufacturers.
The Canadians are like the French...all agitators for socialism. I am
glad Walmart kicked their asses.

American Automobile manufacturers have been destroyed by the greed of
the executives who refuse to pay the workers a living wage and so they
now play a game called "Globalization" in which the American worker is
expected to be paid Indonesian worker wages and be happy about it. Funny
how the Globalization advocates never demand that American workers be
paid the wages of their counterparts in Germany.

It is a tragedy that CEO's are forced to get by on their paltry
earnings. Sigh.

Bob Vandiver

The union meeting must have been inspiring, for your information, most
workers in Automobile manufacturing are grossly overpaid considering the
skill level required. Perhaps what is really needed is somebody like
Wal-Mart to enter that field and watch for how long you will be paid $
60,000 to fasten five bolts.
Wade

MichaelC wrote:

If the goverment would stop taxing dividends, both on the corporate and
individual ends, exorbitant executive pay would drop like a balloon, as
corporations would suddenly have something better to do with the excess
cash. High executive compensation is a creature of the tax code.



What a bunch of BS. The CEO of Costco is paid $350,000 a year; not
millions as are allocated to the Walmart CEO. Explain that. Greed is
the operative word here.