"Sir" Allen Stanford

Hello All!

It seems that "dual" citizenship allows something I'd never known: the
acceptance of foreign titles. The alleged crook Stanford, born in Texas
and just tracked down in Virginia, is also a citizen of Antigua and has
a knighthood from there.

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James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

"James Silverton" wrote in message
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Hello All!

It seems that "dual" citizenship allows something I'd never known: the
acceptance of foreign titles.

Thats hardly news, try a Google for Waldorf Astor aka 2nd Viscount Astor

Keith

Keith wrote on Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:21:32 -0000:


"James Silverton" wrote in
message ...
Hello All!

It seems that "dual" citizenship allows something I'd never known:
the acceptance of foreign titles.

Thats hardly news, try a Google for Waldorf Astor aka 2nd
Viscount Astor

Incidentally, as someone who took an oath foreswearing allegiance to
other princes and powers, I do *not* approve of dual or multiple
citizenship even if I possess it and it turned out convenient when my
daughter wanted to work in Europe.

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James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

"James Silverton" wrote in message
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Keith wrote on Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:21:32 -0000:
"James Silverton" wrote in
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Hello All!

It seems that "dual" citizenship allows something I'd never known:
the acceptance of foreign titles.

Thats hardly news, try a Google for Waldorf Astor aka 2nd
Viscount Astor

Incidentally, as someone who took an oath foreswearing allegiance to other
princes and powers, I do *not* approve of dual or multiple citizenship
even if I possess it and it turned out convenient when my daughter wanted
to work in Europe.


The United States does not recognize dual citizenship, though there are many
American citizens, particularly naturalized citizens who hold dual
citizenship. KM
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Alohacyberian wrote on Sat, 21 Feb 2009 01:54:31 GMT:

"James Silverton" wrote in
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Keith wrote on Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:21:32 -0000:
"James Silverton" wrote in
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Hello All!

It seems that "dual" citizenship allows something I'd never
known: the acceptance of foreign titles.

Thats hardly news, try a Google for Waldorf Astor aka 2nd
Viscount Astor

Incidentally, as someone who took an oath foreswearing
allegiance to other princes and powers, I do *not* approve of
dual or multiple citizenship even if I possess it and it
turned out convenient when my daughter wanted to work in
Europe.

The United States does not recognize dual citizenship, though
there are many American citizens, particularly naturalized
citizens who hold dual citizenship. KM

Duh!
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James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

"James Silverton" wrote in message
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Alohacyberian wrote on Sat, 21 Feb 2009 01:54:31 GMT:

"James Silverton" wrote in
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Keith wrote on Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:21:32 -0000:
"James Silverton" wrote in
message ...
Hello All!

It seems that "dual" citizenship allows something I'd never
known: the acceptance of foreign titles.

Thats hardly news, try a Google for Waldorf Astor aka 2nd
Viscount Astor

Incidentally, as someone who took an oath foreswearing
allegiance to other princes and powers, I do *not* approve of
dual or multiple citizenship even if I possess it and it
turned out convenient when my daughter wanted to work in
Europe.

The United States does not recognize dual citizenship, though there are
many American citizens, particularly naturalized
citizens who hold dual citizenship. KM

Duh!
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James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

I think the naturalized citizens have to give up the previous citizenship.
But lots of Americans still hold dual citizenship via birth. Former
neighbors daughter was born while he was working for Bectal in Rhodesia.
She still has Rhodesian or what ever it is call now, citizenship.

Calif Bill wrote:

I think the naturalized citizens have to give up the previous citizenship.
But lots of Americans still hold dual citizenship via birth. Former
neighbors daughter was born while he was working for Bectal in Rhodesia.
She still has Rhodesian or what ever it is call now, citizenship.


The UK does not recognize the concept of "giving up"citizenship. They're
perfectly happy for their citizens to take up alternative citizenship,
but any time anybody wants it back, passport is available.

Mike wrote on Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:35:46 +0000:

Calif Bill wrote:
I think the naturalized citizens have to give up the previous
citizenship. But lots of Americans still hold dual
citizenship via birth. Former neighbors daughter was born
while he was working for Bectal in Rhodesia. She still has
Rhodesian or what ever it is call now, citizenship.

How does a naturalized citizen like me give up his previous citizenship
and still possess dual citizenship, which I do? It seems a contradiction
in terms since the oath I took on becoming a citizen said " I hereby
declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all
allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or
sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or
citizen"

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

James Silverton wrote:
Mike wrote on Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:35:46 +0000:

Calif Bill wrote:
I think the naturalized citizens have to give up the previous
citizenship. But lots of Americans still hold dual
citizenship via birth. Former neighbors daughter was born
while he was working for Bectal in Rhodesia. She still has
Rhodesian or what ever it is call now, citizenship.

How does a naturalized citizen like me give up his previous citizenship
and still possess dual citizenship, which I do? It seems a contradiction
in terms since the oath I took on becoming a citizen said " I hereby
declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all
allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or
sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen"

Well, you can do all that, to satisfy US bureaucracy, but if you were
originally British, the UK govt. would say, OK,that's fine, but you can
have your British passport back any time you want. Might **** off the US
government, but hey - that's lfe!

Mike wrote on Sat, 21 Feb 2009 17:02:07 +0000:

James Silverton wrote:
Mike wrote on Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:35:46 +0000:

Calif Bill wrote:
I think the naturalized citizens have to give up the
previous citizenship. But lots of Americans still hold dual
citizenship via birth. Former neighbors daughter was born
while he was working for Bectal in Rhodesia. She still has
Rhodesian or what ever it is call now, citizenship.

How does a naturalized citizen like me give up his previous
citizenship and still possess dual citizenship, which I do?
It seems a contradiction in terms since the oath I took on
becoming a citizen said " I hereby declare, on oath, that I
absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance
and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or
sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject
or citizen"


Well, you can do all that, to satisfy US bureaucracy, but if you were
originally British, the UK govt. would say, OK,that's fine, but you can
have your British passport back any time you want. Might **** off the
US government, but hey - that's lfe!

I know all that but the key thing is that, despite still using the oath,
the US Government does not care at all. I also know that I could
formally renounce my British citizenship at a British embassy but I
don't care enough to do it even if I sometimes feel like a liar and, at
the time, I had really thought the oath meant what it said.
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James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not