How to pack light, some tips

Make credence recognised that on Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:18:11 GMT,
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Those guys who are saddled with "high maintenance" wives, take note.



Define 'high maintenance' in this case please.

In a nutshell? Demanding entitlement bitches who think that their butt is
made out of gold.

It's pretty simple. You woo them with flowers, and dump them when they
cost too much. Then when you're sick of that, marry a foreign girl
instead.
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http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/packlight.html

"Ian Burton" wrote:
There are tips here that I couldn't follow in a million years, but to
each his own.

Yep. To each his own.

One paragraph that turned my stomach is below. I find no pleasure in
tearing up books. Next kommt the burning!

Oh he's just being melodramatic.

Travel Book Country Removals: Weight Saved
This time around, I bought the cheap $15 Let's Go Europe "On a Budget"
edition. Then I cut out the stuff I won't need. There is a certain
pleasure in chopping out Let's Go sections, perhaps because the writing is so
awful.
Many fellow travellers agree: you only buy Let's Go because their data
is reasonably good, and the paper is lighter than Lonely Planet.

Tear? Burn? Cut? Awful?

I recall the 2nd guidebook I purchased was the Lonely Planet guide to
New Zealand. I gave it in barter and now I have a detective police
constable friend in Perth with a place to stay at his home. He had
never heard of Lonely Planet. Tony Wheeler just visited Berkeley
pushing his and Maureen's latest 2 books (one their auto-bio).

Who really cares about the weight these days with cars and wheeled
luggage? This guy mentions a bike. OK. I carry skis some time.
All these general purpose travel guides have deficiencies.
I'm trying to figre some of them out. Rec.travel.misc has a nice FAQ
comparing various guides. I tried an Excel spread sheet, and I took
Switzerland as a sample country and bought every English language travel
guide I could find. They all lacked something which I could tell the
minute my train left Zurich Flughauftn's tunnel. Toto, we're definitely
not in Kansas anymore.

Let's Go: maybe OK for Harvard students. I've only evry bought one of
them and not checked out any others from libraries. LP isn't bad.
I like what Robert Pelton who owns the Fielding's guide consession notes
about them being, well I'll just cut and paste:
subsection "Who This Book is For" under 'Adventure Travellers' reads:
Most adventure travellers rely on politically correct but militarily
naive guidebooks like Lonely Planet, Moon and Rough Guides.
They provide minimal coverage of war zones and simply tell you
to stay away.

I've now had too many errors in Fodors and Frommers that I won't buy
them and they are also oriented more toward middle upper class shopping
guides. And I think it was Frommer himself who put down Steves' guides.
Those with TV shows make amusing community scraps at each other.
Fodors had me trying to locate a restaurant in Tokyo for over 1/2 hr.
which wasn't even on their cited street.

Steves' isn't bad if you want a basic canned linear trip. But it is
very canned.

Michellin that you have to learn about the Green guides and the Red
guides is a little irksome. English speakers might wonder why they are
paying for the French part of those guides.

So I'm planning a Norway-Iceland trip and unlike the Swiss case, this
isn't buy every guide for comparison. And I will probably take the
coastal steamer which is clearly noted in LP and DK, but Foders (library
copy) doesn't even detail nor does Frommer? It amazes me that these
guys make any more except for those who ignore major portions of missing
country information. All I can think is how tourist can only visit a
country for such a short period of time and except to see things.


But cutting, burning, etc. that's merely guide book drama.
The hard interesting part is editorial and what they decide to leave off.

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Make credence recognised that on Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:18:11 GMT,
"sharx35" has scripted:
Those guys who are saddled with "high maintenance" wives, take note.

Good one.

"William Black" wrote in message
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Define 'high maintenance' in this case please.

In a nutshell? Demanding entitlement bitches who think that their butt is
made out of gold.

I like the way these guys think.

In article ,
Sovereign wrote:
It's pretty simple. You woo them with flowers, and dump them when they
cost too much. Then when you're sick of that, marry a foreign girl
instead.

Did you sign a pre-nup?

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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007, me wrote:
Actually, it is more of a case of society organizing itself around
the presumption that one will have a cell phone.

Unfortunately.

Hey, the Titanic sank. Get over it.

From the 1960s emergency phones were placed on many US highway urban areas.
Now, with so many people with cell phones, the highway admin is proposing
and actually removing 1/3. So people without will have to walk a bit further
but it's 1/3 fewer to maintain.

Life is about change.

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It's pretty simple. You woo them with flowers, and dump them when they
cost too much. Then when you're sick of that, marry a foreign girl
instead.

Did you sign a pre-nup?

No, I just made sure she had her own money.
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In article , Spehro Pefhany
writes

Now, taking the DSLR or not is less of a no-brainer, and I don't even
have all the lenses I want yet. Thousands of dollars worth of stuff,
bulky, fragile, easily stolen, but it delivers a tangible benefit in
terms of potential quality of photos compared to a tiny
point-and-shoot camera. Snapshot vs. the kind of photos that can be
blown up, mounted, and put on the wall. Notebook computers likewise,
though the last family mini vacation we went one we brought two
notebooks so there was no waiting. ;-)

You didn't go on holiday really - you just moved your office.
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http://congokid.com

congokid wrote:
In article , Spehro
Pefhany writes

Now, taking the DSLR or not is less of a no-brainer, and I don't
even
have all the lenses I want yet. Thousands of dollars worth of
stuff,
bulky, fragile, easily stolen, but it delivers a tangible benefit
in
terms of potential quality of photos compared to a tiny
point-and-shoot camera. Snapshot vs. the kind of photos that can be
blown up, mounted, and put on the wall. Notebook computers
likewise,
though the last family mini vacation we went one we brought two
notebooks so there was no waiting. ;-)

You didn't go on holiday really - you just moved your office.

Don't know about him, but this is me five minutes before leaving for
my last vacation.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1251/...45cbc838_b.jpg

There are both DSLR with lenses and a laptop loaded.

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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

"J. Clarke" wrote in message
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Don't know about him, but this is me five minutes before leaving for
my last vacation.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1251/...45cbc838_b.jpg

There are both DSLR with lenses and a laptop loaded.

So you're not flying then...


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William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

William Black wrote:
"J. Clarke" wrote in message
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Don't know about him, but this is me five minutes before leaving
for
my last vacation.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1251/...45cbc838_b.jpg

There are both DSLR with lenses and a laptop loaded.

So you're not flying then...

Some people might say I was . . .

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--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

"J. Clarke" wrote in message
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William Black wrote:
"J. Clarke" wrote in message
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Don't know about him, but this is me five minutes before leaving
for
my last vacation.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1251/...45cbc838_b.jpg

There are both DSLR with lenses and a laptop loaded.

So you're not flying then...

Some people might say I was . . .


Some people said that about me the last time I was on a motorcycle.

I was, for a short time, until I hit the ground...


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William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.