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How to pack light, some tips
"William Black" wrote in message ... "sharx35" wrote in message news:fLyyi.87$Pd4.76@edtnps82... Those guys who are saddled with "high maintenance" wives, take note. Define 'high maintenance' in this case please. In a nutshell? Demanding entitlement bitches who think that their butt is made out of gold. -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. |
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How to pack light, some tips
"William Black" wrote in message ... "Markku Grönroos" wrote in message ti.fi... I have arranged my travels so that there is little need to be instantly available. When I want to be in touch to outside world I lease a computer for a moment to send and receive mail. Sometimes it can be beneficial to book for mass transportation in advance by phone but I leave this to the hotel personnel. That's why they are there in the first place (typically the language barrier hinders me to contact the agent anyways). Why do you restrict yourself to environments where you don't need a phone. Mine is mainly used as an alarm clock when I'm on holiday, and a means of contacting my wife if we separated somewhere we're unfamiliar with. -- William Black So, how exactly did you manage to survive BEFORE this great invention? I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. |
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How to pack light, some tips
"J. Clarke" wrote in message ... Chris Blunt wrote: On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 06:26:47 GMT, "sharx35" wrote: "Chris Blunt" wrote in message ... On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:58:18 +0300, Markku Grönroos wrote: "Spehro Pefhany" kirjoitti om... I carry a small bottle of shampoo, because I don't like the free stuff. Maybe 200ml, which could last for several weeks. Not having a mobile phone seems silly. Why? When travelling on holiday, you need a phone. I don't need one. I find a phone to keep in touch with people even more useful when I'm traveling than it is at home. It also serves as a camera, an alarm clock, a GPS, and a way to check my emails. Something so compact that does all that and only weighs around 100g easily justifies being taken along on any trips I make. Chris They take lousy quality pictures. In fact I think the 5 megapixel camera on my Nokia N95 takes better pictures than my Canon IXUS which I bought only a couple of years ago. It may not be a professional quality camera, I don't think anyone would describe the quality as lousy. No, you do NOT need GPS unless you are, perhaps, on safari and surely the OPERATORS of the safari will take care of THAT need. No, I certainly don't *need* GPS, but its was very nice to have while driving around Thailand a few weeks ago. On several occasions it made finding locations we were visiting a lot easier. E-mails can be checked at any one of the MILLIONS of cyber cafes in the world. Of course, and that's probably what I'd do if I wanted to do any serious work online. The advantage for me is being able to check instantly from anywhere whether there's any email that needs attending to in the first place, without even having to go near an internet cafe. Personally I've never gotten an email that _needed_ checking. If someone really wants to get hold of me they can call and if they want to get hold of me when I'm on vacation they can bloody well leave a message and wait until I get home. The cell phone is for _my_ convenience, not for the convenience of others. While I always carry it, unless I'm using it or expecting a call from someone I want to talk to, it's turned off. Well, if I ever DO get one, that will be my attitude, too. It will usually be turned OFF, unless I am calling out or expecting an urgent call. -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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"William Black" wrote in message ... "sharx35" wrote in message news:HAvyi.174$bO6.161@edtnps89... . No, you do NOT need GPS unless you are, perhaps, on safari Or on a walking holiday somewhere... E-mails can be checked at any one of the MILLIONS of cyber cafes in the world. Cyber cafes are disappearing fast in Europe. Everyone has a computer, wireless access is available in many town centres, and even in some rural areas. I don't think there's a cyber cafe within forty miles of where I live these days, there used to be half a dozen, but I can get free wireless access down at my local pub.. Yet ANOTHER reason for dropping in at the pub, eh? -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. |
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"J. Clarke" wrote in message ... Markku Grönroos wrote: "Chris Blunt" kirjoitti om... On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:58:18 +0300, Markku Grönroos wrote: "Spehro Pefhany" kirjoitti om... I carry a small bottle of shampoo, because I don't like the free stuff. Maybe 200ml, which could last for several weeks. Not having a mobile phone seems silly. Why? When travelling on holiday, you need a phone. I don't need one. I find a phone to keep in touch with people even more useful when I'm traveling than it is at home. It also serves as a camera, an alarm clock, a GPS, and a way to check my emails. Something so compact that does all that and only weighs around 100g easily justifies being taken along on any trips I make. Fortunately I don't have to be available for other people at work by phone. Actually I seldom carry a phone when I am out of home. When I am back I just check the calls. If wandering in wilderness, a phone may be a good piece in security terms, but on the other hand I have never went deep in to wild vistas all my own. If you're going "deep in to wild vistas" the cell phone usually won't work anyway. Taking a day hike in Connecticut it's nice to have in case you slip and break your leg, but coverage when you're away from areas of high population density starts to get spotty. And what are the odds about breaking your leg on a hike in Connecticut and someone NOT coming along with seconds? I've hiked all over the Canadian Rockies WITHOUT breaking my leg and WITHOUT a cell phone OR a GPS unit. Never got lost. Never got injured. You pansies are a bunch of nervous Nellies who can't get off the electronic teat. Even driving the Trans-Labrador Highway you won't have cell coverage--for one segment of if the Canadian government will loan you a 911-only satphone at no charge. -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 07:46:22 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote: Chris Blunt wrote: On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 06:26:47 GMT, "sharx35" wrote: "Chris Blunt" wrote in message ... On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:58:18 +0300, Markku Grönroos wrote: "Spehro Pefhany" kirjoitti om... I carry a small bottle of shampoo, because I don't like the free stuff. Maybe 200ml, which could last for several weeks. Not having a mobile phone seems silly. Why? When travelling on holiday, you need a phone. I don't need one. I find a phone to keep in touch with people even more useful when I'm traveling than it is at home. It also serves as a camera, an alarm clock, a GPS, and a way to check my emails. Something so compact that does all that and only weighs around 100g easily justifies being taken along on any trips I make. Chris They take lousy quality pictures. In fact I think the 5 megapixel camera on my Nokia N95 takes better pictures than my Canon IXUS which I bought only a couple of years ago. It may not be a professional quality camera, I don't think anyone would describe the quality as lousy. No, you do NOT need GPS unless you are, perhaps, on safari and surely the OPERATORS of the safari will take care of THAT need. No, I certainly don't *need* GPS, but its was very nice to have while driving around Thailand a few weeks ago. On several occasions it made finding locations we were visiting a lot easier. E-mails can be checked at any one of the MILLIONS of cyber cafes in the world. Of course, and that's probably what I'd do if I wanted to do any serious work online. The advantage for me is being able to check instantly from anywhere whether there's any email that needs attending to in the first place, without even having to go near an internet cafe. Personally I've never gotten an email that _needed_ checking. If someone really wants to get hold of me they can call and if they want to get hold of me when I'm on vacation they can bloody well leave a message and wait until I get home. In that case you would have absolutely no need for such a function on a mobile phone. Not everyone is in the lucky position of being so independent of email. The cell phone is for _my_ convenience, not for the convenience of others. While I always carry it, unless I'm using it or expecting a call from someone I want to talk to, it's turned off. I don't travel in order to place myself in some kind of self-imposed isolation, and I usually have friends in places I travel to. A mobile is invaluable for keeping in contact with them, arranging meetings, dealing with last minute changes of plan etc. Unimportant phone calls on a mobile can be a nuisance so I normally use text messaging rather than making voice calls because I find it far less intrusive. If other people find writing letters to friend in advance, making use of carrier pigeons, or leaving messages at hotel reception desks a convenient way to achieve the same thing, then good for them. Chris |
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On Aug 21, 8:19 am, "sharx35" wrote:
"William Black" wrote in message [snip] "Markku Grönroos" wrote in message hti.fi... I have arranged my travels so that there is little need to be instantly available. When I want to be in touch to outside world I lease a computer for a moment to send and receive mail. Sometimes it can be beneficial to book for mass transportation in advance by phone but I leave this to the hotel personnel. That's why they are there in the first place (typically the language barrier hinders me to contact the agent anyways). Why do you restrict yourself to environments where you don't need a phone. Mine is mainly used as an alarm clock when I'm on holiday, and a means of contacting my wife if we separated somewhere we're unfamiliar with. -- William Black So, how exactly did you manage to survive BEFORE this great invention? [snip] Actually, it is more of a case of society organizing itself around the presumption that one will have a cell phone. We were on a walking tour recently and arrived at our B&B. No answer at the door and a note explaining we should "call" a number if there was no response at the door. This was the first trip upon which we had one so we did. The guy was in the basement. (I wanted to tell him he owed me 1.50.) We passed innumerable signs for various services on these mountain paths, all listing phone numbers to call. Society is organizing itself around the presumption of a mobile phone. It is not much different than when it organized itself around a check book. It is rapidly doing so with respect to ATM's and debit cards. It long ago did with respect to credit cards. (Try renting a car in the US without one). It's not that one will not be able to "get along" without one. Merely that they will be choosing to exclude themselves from many opportunities. (Which for some will be the point). Based upon some problems from the last trip, I think I'll be acquiring SOME capability to access the internet before my next trip over the pond. |
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sharx35 wrote:
"J. Clarke" wrote in message ... Markku Grönroos wrote: "Chris Blunt" kirjoitti om... On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:58:18 +0300, Markku Grönroos wrote: "Spehro Pefhany" kirjoitti om... I carry a small bottle of shampoo, because I don't like the free stuff. Maybe 200ml, which could last for several weeks. Not having a mobile phone seems silly. Why? When travelling on holiday, you need a phone. I don't need one. I find a phone to keep in touch with people even more useful when I'm traveling than it is at home. It also serves as a camera, an alarm clock, a GPS, and a way to check my emails. Something so compact that does all that and only weighs around 100g easily justifies being taken along on any trips I make. Fortunately I don't have to be available for other people at work by phone. Actually I seldom carry a phone when I am out of home. When I am back I just check the calls. If wandering in wilderness, a phone may be a good piece in security terms, but on the other hand I have never went deep in to wild vistas all my own. If you're going "deep in to wild vistas" the cell phone usually won't work anyway. Taking a day hike in Connecticut it's nice to have in case you slip and break your leg, but coverage when you're away from areas of high population density starts to get spotty. And what are the odds about breaking your leg on a hike in Connecticut and someone NOT coming along with seconds? If it happens on a Monday you may lie there for a week. I've hiked all over the Canadian Rockies WITHOUT breaking my leg and WITHOUT a cell phone OR a GPS unit. Never got lost. Never got injured. You pansies are a bunch of nervous Nellies who can't get off the electronic teat. Anybody who thinks "it can't happen to me because it hasn't happened to me" doesn't have a firm grasp on reality. And the fact that you call people who make choices different from yours "pansies" and "nervous Nellies" tells me that you are insecure in your own choices and find it necessary to bolster your own pitiful ego by demeaning others. -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:19:35 GMT, "sharx35"
wrote: "William Black" wrote in message ... "Markku Grönroos" wrote in message ti.fi... I have arranged my travels so that there is little need to be instantly available. When I want to be in touch to outside world I lease a computer for a moment to send and receive mail. Sometimes it can be beneficial to book for mass transportation in advance by phone but I leave this to the hotel personnel. That's why they are there in the first place (typically the language barrier hinders me to contact the agent anyways). Why do you restrict yourself to environments where you don't need a phone. Mine is mainly used as an alarm clock when I'm on holiday, and a means of contacting my wife if we separated somewhere we're unfamiliar with. -- William Black So, how exactly did you manage to survive BEFORE this great invention? Survival isn't the issue. Its a question of doing things more efficiently so that you waste less time carrying out boring routine tasks and more time doing things you enjoy. Because of these kinds of technological advances many people can travel to places they would never have been able to afford to go to before. When they get there they can do their work from a laptop on a beach instead of pushing paperwork around stuck behind a desk in some office on the other side of the world. Chris |
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sharx35 wrote:
"William Black" wrote in message ... "Markku Grönroos" wrote in message ti.fi... I have arranged my travels so that there is little need to be instantly available. When I want to be in touch to outside world I lease a computer for a moment to send and receive mail. Sometimes it can be beneficial to book for mass transportation in advance by phone but I leave this to the hotel personnel. That's why they are there in the first place (typically the language barrier hinders me to contact the agent anyways). Why do you restrict yourself to environments where you don't need a phone. Mine is mainly used as an alarm clock when I'm on holiday, and a means of contacting my wife if we separated somewhere we're unfamiliar with. -- William Black So, how exactly did you manage to survive BEFORE this great invention? Who said anything about survival? I'm sure that Ugh asked Gugh how he managed to survive BEFORE that newfangled idea of wrapping some skins around yourself to keep warm was invented. -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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